I am a little underwhelmed with Wave 8 and the new starter TBH. I may get a new starter once the film comes out and if I like it as at the moment none of it resonates. I am concerned that the films may reimagine all the old ships and we will almost be encouraged to rebuy all the ships we already have. As stated above i'd rather have new ships.

I realise that the TIE/Fo is clever in that it looks like the original and has newer tech added but the Interceptor was an improved TIE and where has that gone in the last 30 years?.

I may of course change my mind once the films are out and we get to see everything on the big screen. I was in Toys R us today and a young lad was looking at the new star wars lego and was obviously a big fan. He was looking at Poe's Black and Orange X wing and asked his Dad who Poe was. I thought 'exactly'.

Invalidating the EU ships would let a lot of people turn away from X-Wing in disgust. Not all of them but that would be Games Workshop level of taking a nice number 2 on their customers while saying: "We still got you hooked, ha ha, so what willyou do about it!". I dont see FFG nor Disney being that careless. There would still be a lot of players but it would cost them customers and money. So i am not really afraid of such a thing happening.

Also i am rather happy that there are new Canon ships coming our way. And i am pretty sure nobody in the new canon will ever say. No, a K-Wing, YT-2400 or Phantom has never existed and will never exist.

If i was Disney i would perhaps not go as far as showing these EU ships but unless i intended to have a better replacement for them which would make their existence impossible in the new canon, someone in the movies could perhaps mention some of the EU ships or they could be on some advertisement monitor/hologram in a city scene or something similar. That would not only cost them essentially nothing, but such a simple nod of recognition to the good work of a ton of pretty good authors and artists would reconcile a lot of salty hardcore EU fans with Disney that (had to) dump some of their beloved EU fiction in order to create new stories about said galaxy far far away...

You'd be just as likely to get updates for the current ships thanks to Rogue One and the other prequels which are set in the current ship range.

This. Especially since things like Rebels have A-Wings and B-Wings in them, if they'd just drop a few pilot names, you'd be guaranteed to get new packs for those ships somehow.

Yet-2400 IS canon, it's in episode 4, taking off, when they go to hire Han.

Yet-2400 IS canon, it's in episode 4, taking off, when they go to hire Han.

Which is exactly what they should be doing with some of these other ships. Just show them flying past in the background of some shot. Canon status established, story unaffected.

Although if a TIE Defender zooms past in the background and nobody mentions it I'd probably flip out...

I keep joking that fantasy flight needs a scene in episode 7 where two characters have a conversation in a hanger while walking by dozens of previously unseen ships.

I keep joking that fantasy flight needs a scene in episode 7 where two characters have a conversation in a hanger while walking by dozens of previously unseen ships.

That's no joke man. I would love to see that.

They do it all the time in Rebels. There will be an episode set on some derelict space station and you'll see a bunch of old Clone Wars ships junked in the hangar.

Never forget Disney is the people who told Marvel they want at least one new costume change for every major player in every film they appear in.

I would say the odds of Disney cancelling any Ships in X-Wing is low. As far as the X-Wing that is but is not an X-Wing I saw that concept sketch away and it screamed JJ al over to me. Will be interesting to see what actually is in the film. Plus we may still need Tie/Special Force version released. Ace style pack for Episode 7?

theres already a new shuttle/

How would Disney go about 'cancelling a ship'?

How would Disney go about 'cancelling a ship'?

Extraction teams.

I don't think it's possible to invalidate the EU/legends ships, except maybe in a 2nd edition. As game expansions, they'll be as valid as ever.

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When you said invalidate did you mean by story cannon or by mechanics? JJ proved perfectly capable of invalidating story cannon.

As for invalidating old ships as in the models sure the T-65 is still playable but only if you consider playing the TIE advance without the title fun. The only thing that was invalidated in the Episode 7 core set was the old damage deck which will pretty much invalidate any player that does not have a new one once FFG makes the decision that it is time to switch decks.

When you said invalidate did you mean by story cannon or by mechanics? JJ proved perfectly capable of invalidating story cannon.

Except Star Trek it didn't invalidate it's old canon. In fact, it went out of it's way to generate an entirely separate timeline so that the original canon would still be preserved, while still connecting it to the original canon.

Consider that we had in

ANH: Xwings and Y wings, Tie Fighters, Tie Advances (one of them), Falcon

ESB: Tie Bombers, Slave 1

ROTJ: Interceptors, A wings, B wings, Shuttles

A few others perhaps but they were the main ships for each film. Its not a *lot* fighter wise when you thnk about it.

If the new films feature ground plot more than star fights we might not even get that many new ones, espeically as they have the OT ships already existing.

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I doubt the movies will go pure ground plot. Less new ships means less new toys, and I doubt I would be the only fan pissed if they turn Star Wars into Ground Wars in the new movies. Every Star Wars trilogy features 3 major battles. One with the viewpoint focused on the fighting groundside, one with the viewpoint focused on the fighting in space, and one mixed. The question is what order will they appear in during the ST.

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I doubt the movies will go pure ground plot. Less new ships means less new toys, and I doubt I would be the only fan pissed if they turn Star Wars into Ground Wars in the new movies. ...

Yeah those were called Episodes I, II, & III. They didn't do so well.

I don't think it's possible to invalidate the EU/legends ships, except maybe in a 2nd edition. As game expansions, they'll be as valid as ever.

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When you said invalidate did you mean by story cannon or by mechanics?

Yeah those were called Episodes I, II, & III. They didn't do so well.

Eh, those movies still had more than enough new ships.

When you said invalidate did you mean by story cannon or by mechanics? JJ proved perfectly capable of invalidating story cannon.

Except Star Trek it didn't invalidate it's old canon. In fact, it went out of it's way to generate an entirely separate timeline so that the original canon would still be preserved, while still connecting it to the original canon.

No it did invalidate every show except enterprise which is why it is such a point of contention.

To form another time line requires a choice to be involved i.e. one version goes right the other left, there must be an event that allows the branch off.

Given the movies opening there's no timeline where kirks father lives so the original timeline is gone.

No it did invalidate every show except enterprise which is why it is such a point of contention.

Given the movies opening there's no timeline where kirks father lives so the original timeline is gone.

To everyone else in that timeline, the one everyone actually cares about, Romulus blows up, Nero and Spock travel back in time...and nothing else happens.

All of the changes they create back in time are part of a separate timeline they created when they change the events of the past only effect that new timeline. The old universe is still there, unaffected in it's old timeline.

That's the kind of thing that's different in every time travel story and can vary depending on the writer. It's not like some kind of rule of time travel.

I do not think when it comes to X-Wing Disney or FFG even consider a time line.

We now have T-70s and Tie/fos flying along side long dead pilots from 30+ years ago.

This game has no time line.

I know that at some point since the Disney acquisition, designs for an E-Wing have been explored. The concept art that I've been told about are- apparently- not at all like the E-Wing from Legends.

So that's something that could make FFG sweat a bit. If a new movie releases an E-Wing that doesn't look, perform, or equip like the E-Wing we know and love, it could be a problem.

I can think of a couple ways they could deal with it, but it could be a tiny bit awkward for them.

So that's something that could make FFG sweat a bit. If a new movie releases an E-Wing that doesn't look, perform, or equip like the E-Wing we know and love, it could be a problem.

I can think of a couple ways they could deal with it, but it could be a tiny bit awkward for them.

Eh, you just give them different model numbers. Like the YT-1300 and the YT-2400.

You call the new movie E-wing the TR-62 E-Wing or something and call it a day.