Devastator

By Felswrath, in Star Wars: Armada

Am I reading this correctly "Once per round, while attacking from your front hull zone, you may add 1 blue die to your attackpool for each of your discarded defense tokens."

1. This does not require concentrate fire, so we just get free attack dice!

2. "for each discarded token." not "for each defense token you discard." This means it applies each round.

3. (And most exciting!) It reads "while attacking from your front hull zone," not "wile attacking from your front hull zone at close - medium range." This means we can use this ability at long range!

This thing is Amazing!!!

Uh-oh! I just remembered, I'm a rebel player! :unsure:

It's great....but it's only great once you are in danger of death.

Since it's "discarded tokens", you aren't going to get much benefit until most of your tokens are permanently gone. You can bet any competent player will try damned hard to ensure that your ship doesn't last long once you're down to say...1 brace.

That's good for the balance of course, but something to beware of. You'll get harder hitting at the exact same time you become easier to kill, making you priority target #1.

I mean, its a bit of Compensation for the Inevitable - between enemy fire, intel officers, and Darth Vader, you're going to lose defense tokens...

Devastator just gives you a bit for it.

It's great....but it's only great once you are in danger of death.

Since it's "discarded tokens", you aren't going to get much benefit until most of your tokens are permanently gone. You can bet any competent player will try damned hard to ensure that your ship doesn't last long once you're down to say...1 brace.

That's good for the balance of course, but something to beware of. You'll get harder hitting at the exact same time you become easier to kill, making you priority target #1.

And by the time you are in danger of death no one is in your front arc. At least currently.

""(And most exciting!) It reads "while attacking from your front hull zone," not "wile attacking from your front hull zone at close - medium range." This means we can use this ability at long range

NO NO NO the dice color range will still apply it always applys

""(And most exciting!) It reads "while attacking from your front hull zone," not "wile attacking from your front hull zone at close - medium range." This means we can use this ability at long range

NO NO NO the dice color range will still apply it always applys

Actually, it doesn't in this case....

You add it to your Pool. That means you gather Dice for the appropriate range.

THEN add it afterwards.

The Wording is EXACTLY the same as "Paragon", which has been confirmed to add that Black Die, even if you're potshotting at Red-Die-Only Range.

Edit: And the FAQ Quote:

Q: When a ship resolves an ability that allows it to add dice to the attack pool, can it add those dice if their color is not normally appropriate for the range of the attack?

A: Yes. The range restriction on dice color applies only when dice are gathered during the “Roll Attack Dice” step of an attack.

Edited by Drasnighta

""(And most exciting!) It reads "while attacking from your front hull zone," not "wile attacking from your front hull zone at close - medium range." This means we can use this ability at long range

NO NO NO the dice color range will still apply it always applys

""(And most exciting!) It reads "while attacking from your front hull zone," not "wile attacking from your front hull zone at close - medium range." This means we can use this ability at long range

NO NO NO the dice color range will still apply it always applys

Range restriction will not apply to Devastator. Range only applies when you gather your attack pool, not add additional dice.

Per Pg2 of the FAQ:

Q:When a ship resolves an ability that allows it to add dice
to the attack pool, can it add those dice if their color is not
normally appropriate for the range of the attack?
A:Yes. The range restriction on dice color applies only when
dice are gathered during the “Roll Attack Dice” step of an

attack

Edited by kami689

Woo! Within a Minute!

Woo! Within a Minute!

YEa ninjas!!

:ph34r:

I would have got mine posted first if work didn't require me :P

Edited by kami689

still seems exceptionally situational for the extra dice

10 points is a lot, front-arc only (no range restriction though), and you have to be jettisoning defense tokens like so much crap out the air-lock

still seems exceptionally situational for the extra dice

10 points is a lot, front-arc only (no range restriction though), and you have to be jettisoning defense tokens like so much crap out the air-lock

It's a perfect pairing for Vader.

It seems like the ability is designed to let you throw your ship headlong into the fray, seeking the perfect front arc shot and getting more powerful the more damage it takes.

Spend a token during defense, spend it again with Vader when you attack to discard it. Rinse, repeat, gain dice.

It's all about timing and planning. No, it's not going to be the most defensive ship when it's pumping out those extra blues, but it doesn't *need* to be because by then it should be knocking ships out casually.

I like to imagine, in this case, that spending a defense token is roughly equivalent to Vader choking out some british dude on the bridge.

Edited by Tvayumat

In this case, devastator falls into "the best defense is a good offense" category.

You are sacrificing your defense, trying to take out the opponents ships as quickly as possible

"the best defense is a good offense"

The art of war by Mel, the cook on Alice.

In this case, devastator falls into "the best defense is a good offense" category.

You are sacrificing your defense, trying to take out the opponents ships as quickly as possible

As we see with demolisher, this is not a bad thought process

In this case, devastator falls into "the best defense is a good offense" category.

You are sacrificing your defense, trying to take out the opponents ships as quickly as possible

As we see with demolisher, this is not a bad thought process

There's a reason all of our ships are specifically engineered to bring maximum firepower to bear to the fore of their gigantic, heavily armored hulls.

You're with the Empire, now. No one should ever be chasing you.

Edited by Tvayumat

In this case, devastator falls into "the best defense is a good offense" category.

You are sacrificing your defense, trying to take out the opponents ships as quickly as possible

As we see with demolisher, this is not a bad thought process

There's a reason all of our ships are specifically engineered to bring maximum firepower to bear to the fore of their gigantic, heavily armored hulls.

You're with the Empire, now. No one should ever be chasing you.

I already did that on my Xwing Decimator.

Hmmm, I should add that to my VT-49 I built in space engineershttp://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=506355477

What floodplain did you use?

I've been tempted to build a 28mm scale decimator with full interior, but I haven't found an official deckplan.

Hmmm, I should add that to my VT-49 I built in space engineershttp://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=506355477

What floodplain did you use?

I've been tempted to build a 28mm scale decimator with full interior, but I haven't found an official deckplan.

But never found anything official or even just a fan blueprint or something so the inside is totally improv...

Edited by clontroper5

OK sorry I missed that.

So let's say we are running Vader, Devastator, and Gunnery Team. We shoot from front with 8 dice, use Vader to reroll and discard. Then shoot again (different target) from the front with 9 dice. Does this stack correctly? And can I also shoot squads from my front for 2+X? Devastator says to add dice but doesn't say what the target must be.

Yes to all.

In fact, you can use Vader to discard+reroll and then add a die from Devastator in the same attack, as both of those effects happen during the Modify Dice step. The only requirement, of course, is that you had an exhausted defense token to begin with.