sigh. Come December we will have entirely new lore, new ships, new locations, new characters...all of these we will see in some game form.
we literally don't need the EU anymore.

He said that story had already been told through the many books and comics of the EU.

I'd have to see a link to that statement before I buy that. He was quite clear on his opinion of the EU after all.

They're out there. He says his Star Wars was about Anakin. Once his story was done, he was done. The universe kind of took off without him and even though he didn't like the idea of Luke getting married. He didn't stop them from making new stories.

You do know that Lucas changes his story all the time, right?

The only parts of the EU that are any good are the ones we don't consider part of the EU: TIE Fighter, for example.

ASSAULT GUNBOAT!!!!!!

They're out there.

Yet we have a number of reports of him working on new movies. So clearly he didn't think the story was really over. He may not of had one he especially felt the need to tell, but he was clearly working on new movies, movies that would of done the same thing to the EU that Disney has done.

Edit: To shut people up, isn't exactly a good reason to do anything. The only reason to continue the Legends stuff, is because doing so would sell better then having one unified canon.

He said that story had already been told through the many books and comics of the EU.

I'd have to see a link to that statement before I buy that. He was quite clear on his opinion of the EU after all.

They're out there. He says his Star Wars was about Anakin. Once his story was done, he was done. The universe kind of took off without him and even though he didn't like the idea of Luke getting married. He didn't stop them from making new stories.

You do know that Lucas changes his story all the time, right?

Which means it works both ways.

I would shut up about Disney canon if I was able to keep getting Legends material. A lot of people would shut up. That's what I'm trying to get at.

George clearly didn't have much respect for the EU, he made that very clear a number of times. He felt that the EU was a completely separate universe from his Star Wars, and as far as he was concerned his was the only official one.

So there's no way he would of let the EU tie his hands if he were going to make a new movie, which means the EU would of largely been made non-canon by any movies he worked on.

This is the current official canon.

http://www.slashfilm.com/new-star-wars-canon-timeline/

Everythig else is gone for now. I liked the Thrawn books, some more of Zahn's books as well as the X-Wing books.

Zahn, Stackpole and Allsten did write some really good stories. Shame to see them all go away.

I'm saddened to see the Brian Daley books gone. While the one about the Kaiburr Crystal wasn't great, the Han Solo and Lando books were fun reads and gave some nice backstory on those two. The Solo books, in particular, are really enjoyable if you've never read them. I recommend them if your view of Star Wars isn't just limited to "Rebels vs. Imperials". If you're a Scum Faction type, you'll like them I think.

I agree about most all of the other EU stuff, though...it wasn't good. Thrawn was never an acceptable substitute for Vader. We never saw Luke as the truly powerful Jedi he is supposed to be. Turning the Empire into a bunch of racist bigots was lame also, IMHO. Mara Jade...the authors trying to make her out to be a badass when there's Vader...sigh. The character intrigued me but I was never impressed with her and her role as an Emperor's Hand. meh. Then, to boot, she marries Luke (liked that) then...SPOILER ALERT--INVISO-TEXT AHEAD... dies. Sorry. Couldn't resist.

Darksaber had some cutesy backstory ideas about the Death Star project but the prequels voided all of that, as they did with the books about Admiral Daala, which I also found boring and contrived. The Sun Crusher? ugh.

I did like parts in a couple of the books where Leia's reaction to Luke regarding Vader as her father was, shall we say, explosive. She shouted Luke out of the house over it. I also liked the description during a part of one of the books where Leia's baby (babies? I can't remember) were taken from her and she went all "lioness" on whomever had the kids. Again, it's been a looong time (I was in college from 92 - 97) since I've read any of them, and I honestly don't know that I could read most of them again.

I also am sad that they tossed the X Wing novels. I owned all of the EU novels published between 1993-2003 (roughly) and the only ones I still have are:

Shadows of the Empire

X wing Series

Tales of the Rebellion

Tales of the Empire

Tales of the Bounty Hunters (Mostly b/c I liked that backstory on Fett, although it was all apocryphal by 2003)

I, Jedi (not sure why this one...)

The rest...Donated to a local used book store.

I guess, though, that Disney taking over meant this was probably going to happen. Typical, though, in this day and age. Toss it and remake it "better". Now, to a point, that won't be hard to do (esp. given the EU stuff was, as said before, mostly pretty bad), but I really hope they don't ruin the next 3 movies or revise canon stuff to the point it's way past different from what we grew up with.

I just hope the new movies aren't social commentaries or thinly - veiled political jabs. I go to Star Wars movies to escape all of that.

I'm saddened to see the Brian Daley books gone. While the one about the Kaiburr Crystal wasn't great, the Han Solo and Lando books were fun reads and gave some nice backstory on those two. The Solo books, in particular, are really enjoyable if you've never read them.

The "Han Solo Adventures" novels are better than the Lando ones because Brian Daley didn't write the Lando ones. There are parts of the Daley novels I don't care for, but he definitely had an ear for dialogue.

I guess, though, that Disney taking over meant this was probably going to happen. Typical, though, in this day and age. Toss it and remake it "better". Now, to a point, that won't be hard to do, but I really hope they don't ruin the next 3 movies or revise stuff to the point it's way past different from what we grew up with.

The problem is that the EU was going to be almost possible for Disney to navigate, given that they wanted to write a new story in the post-Endor era. Their choices were either to adapt the movies from an existing set of novels, or to let everyone know they were going to overwrite them.

I just hope the new movies aren't social commentaries or thinly - veiled political jabs. I go to Star Wars movies to escape all of that.

I know what you mean, but... art is always political, even when it's aiming for mass appeal. For instance, the Empire of Episodes IV - VI is explicitly fascist, and the good guys are working to overthrow it. That's a clear political statement, even if it's an uncontroversial one.

Yes...you said it well. I guess I just want it to not be done overtly to the point that it takes me away from that galaxy and back into this one.

Also, good call on the Lando books...I should have been more specific about Daley's work vs. Smith's.

I've been reading EU material since I was around ten, with a bookshelf almsot full of about 50 or so of the books I've collected over the years. I've spent hours pring over wookieepedia, old sourcebooks such as vehicle and weapon guides, and the old comics, games etc.

I for one wholeheartedly welcome the new canon. Everything I've read of it (that being all the current comics, the novels Tarkin, Heir to the Jedi, A New Dawn and Dark Disciple) as well as Rebels and The Clone Wars just feel like Star Wars, much more so than the majority of the old canon. And I say that as one of the few people who actually liked the New Jedi Order series.

Plus, the new canon has already been bringing in elements from Legends, such as certain vehicles, the Inquisitors, the Black Sun crime syndicate, even the Cloakshape fighter. It's not like that stuff is banned forever, and I still see books on shelves from those days with the "Legends" banner now added to them.

Then there's the fact that now I don't need to worry about whatever new material I'm viewing being on a lower tier of canon, ready to be overwritten at a moment's notice by something higher-up in the canon tiers. Now there's just one canon, theoretically more consistent and coherent, and with the understanding that this is always intended to be canon, it was never considered second-fiddle to, say, the movies.

And I'm looking forward to seeing The Force Awakens without knowing the full 30+years of history beforehand, so there will surely be less "superweapon of the week from some rogue Imperial Remnant commander" baggage.

The only parts of the EU that are any good are the ones we don't consider part of the EU: TIE Fighter, for example.

ASSAULT GUNBOAT!!!!!!

With the K-Wing making SLAM an action, and the fixes for munitions, I need the Assault Gunboat in my life! Allow it to come with advanced slam as well, and a SLAM modification card (5-6 points) so we can give other ships SLAM and say goodbye to Engine Upgrade, unless you want the cheaper boost option.

And I'm looking forward to seeing The Force Awakens without knowing the full 30+years of history beforehand, so there will surely be less "superweapon of the week from some rogue Imperial Remnant commander" baggage.

....don't hold your breath. I'm not saying I'm not looking forward to the movie but well....there's a formula for these things

The only parts of the EU that are any good are the ones we don't consider part of the EU: TIE Fighter, for example.

ASSAULT GUNBOAT!!!!!!

With the K-Wing making SLAM an action, and the fixes for munitions, I need the Assault Gunboat in my life! Allow it to come with advanced slam as well, and a SLAM modification card (5-6 points) so we can give other ships SLAM and say goodbye to Engine Upgrade, unless you want the cheaper boost option.

*Missile Boat

Of course we all want the assault gunboat, but you do know that it never had slam, right?

^So pulling a Polygon on Polygon? Deserved IMO

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The key thing to remember is that the EU is still canon, just a separate timeline, an AU for all intents and purposes. Someone posted this in another thread but I think it's still a good view: FFG is carving out their own universe, trying to integrate the better elements of the EU instead of kowtowing to Disney's every piddling whim.

(I still think the 4th's stuff feels, dare I say, forced)

Boo! You should feel ashamed of that pun. Or very proud, either one.

I'm not sure how many people who lament the passing of the Extended Universe into Legends remember the way Lucas seemed to delight in voiding the EU. He actually added a scene into the end of the special edition of Jedi that strongly implied that coruscant fell immediately after the death of the Emperor instead of several years later. An X-Wing novel was able to re-retcon that scene, but it was annoying.

And, of course, the version of the Clone Wars implied by the Thrawn Trilogy doesn't match up at all with what we actually see.

The wonderful part of the Disney Star Wars Story Group is that they will avoid such shenanigans.

The only parts of the EU that are any good are the ones we don't consider part of the EU: TIE Fighter, for example.

ASSAULT GUNBOAT!!!!!!

With the K-Wing making SLAM an action, and the fixes for munitions, I need the Assault Gunboat in my life! Allow it to come with advanced slam as well, and a SLAM modification card (5-6 points) so we can give other ships SLAM and say goodbye to Engine Upgrade, unless you want the cheaper boost option.

How many times I gotta' tell people that the Assault Gunboat didn't kriffin' have the SLAM Engine, but the Missile boat did?

You can read the first chapter as of a couple months ago now online. http://www.starwars.com/news/chaos-throttles-the-capital-in-star-wars-aftermath-special-excerpt

If you can stomach the writing style.

Nup. I tried, but couldn't. Just awful.

The wonderful part of the Disney Star Wars Story Group is that they will avoid such shenanigans.

That's why I think this policy is better then the one under George with the 5 levels of canon. You have one unified canon, so you know that everything you read/play/watch/ect... is all part of the same canon.

Bring in the TIE Fighter game and al the imperial ships that came with it, Disney! Or at least the Tie Defender and Avenger.

Not the assault gunboat though. I mean, Who wants that?

Even if it is sarcastic...you deserve a three-day explosive diarrhea for that statement.

Assault Gunboat forever!

The wonderful part of the Disney Star Wars Story Group is that they will avoid such shenanigans.

That remains to be seen. While having such a group might work in theory, it still depends on different people being dedicated to creating a consistent continuity even if it means sacrificing other elements. I don't think consistency with cartoons, games and novels is very important for those who produce movies, however. So it's entirely possible that in a few years we'll be looking at a storyline with huge inconsistencies, creating the need for...a hierarchy to determine what is actually canon.

The wonderful part of the Disney Star Wars Story Group is that they will avoid such shenanigans.

That remains to be seen. While having such a group might work in theory, it still depends on different people being dedicated to creating a consistent continuity even if it means sacrificing other elements. I don't think consistency with cartoons, games and novels is very important for those who produce movies, however. So it's entirely possible that in a few years we'll be looking at a storyline with huge inconsistencies, creating the need for...a hierarchy to determine what is actually canon.

I don't think Disney will let anyone get away with contradicting the canon they establish. Brand management is their thing.

Have people forgotten this is J.J. Abrahms we are talking about here. The one who discards, throws away, and dumps any and all backstory, cannon, and everything except of the names and just writes his own.

It is like the opposite of most story writing where the names doesn't matter. Here is how most stories start when written.

These are the voyages of the ___________, Captain of the ________ on its 5 year mission.

and this is how JJ's story starts.

________________________ James T. Kirk, __________ USS Enterprise _________________.

JJ did not make the script. He's just directing.

In both cases.

This is crazy old news. Two years or so old news. And FFG is still releasing EU ships. There's not been a Wave since Wave 3 without them, including the Rebels wae.

Yup... it is dusty.