Bossk HWK and his deputies.
The Bossk Crew + TLT interaction is interesting. By far the best thing out of this is the MC title being able to save the focus that Bossk gives. Bossk, however, doesn't really allow the TLT to shine because of the hard damage cap on the second attack. However, Palob with an opportunist Cobra is terrifying. Maybe throw an engine on Talonbane and shield on Palob and you would be good to go. I have yet to actually pilot N'Dru Lone Cluster Glitterstim, but it looks amazing on paper.
Also instead of lone wolf how about predator for 1 point extra? I see the synergy of LW and ndru but for the times he's at range 1-2 at least you still get a reroll. Depends on your list and wether or not you need that single point but I know whenever I look at LW I always end up seeing predator and then LW doesn't look as good anymore haha.
I think I would prefer Lightning Reflexes on Palob over Adrenaline Rush. LR will get you a one-use K-Turn/S-Loop that your manuevering dial desperately needs, plus you get that action before you take the stress. If you Lightning-Reflex-turned facing the right way, you should be able to clear that stress easily on the next turn.
The thing that I like about Bossk on a TLT Moldy Crow is that he can potentially trigger twice in a round and the tokens will carry over into the following round.
I think I would prefer Lightning Reflexes on Palob over Adrenaline Rush. LR will get you a one-use K-Turn/S-Loop that your manuevering dial desperately needs, plus you get that action before you take the stress. If you Lightning-Reflex-turned facing the right way, you should be able to clear that stress easily on the next turn.
Lightning Reflexes might be a good option. I was also thinking about taking VI just to give Palob the ability to shoot before N'Dru and possibly clear away some pesky tokens or shields.
The thing that I like about Bossk on a TLT Moldy Crow is that he can potentially trigger twice in a round and the tokens will carry over into the following round.
Once the new FAQ is announced I doubt you will be able to do this. The way I currently read the card leads me to believe that if you have a stress token you are unable to use Bossk. The 2 point cost for him doesn't add up to keep stacking stress.
The thing that I like about Bossk on a TLT Moldy Crow is that he can potentially trigger twice in a round and the tokens will carry over into the following round.
Once the new FAQ is announced I doubt you will be able to do this. The way I currently read the card leads me to believe that if you have a stress token you are unable to use Bossk. The 2 point cost for him doesn't add up to keep stacking stress.
I strongly disagree with your reading of that card.
"After you perform an attack that does not hit, if you are not stressed, you must receive 1 stress token. Then assign 1 focus token to your ship and acquire a target lock on the defender."
If you break it apart you get this:
To put it another way, if you were given the following directions would you think that if you had purchased your ticket before going to the movie that you weren't supposed to go eat?"After the movie is over, if you don't have ticket to the buffet, buy a ticket. Then come eat dinner."
Hahahaha very well played and actually quite helpful for those of us a little slower on the uptake.
The thing that I like about Bossk on a TLT Moldy Crow is that he can potentially trigger twice in a round and the tokens will carry over into the following round.
Once the new FAQ is announced I doubt you will be able to do this. The way I currently read the card leads me to believe that if you have a stress token you are unable to use Bossk. The 2 point cost for him doesn't add up to keep stacking stress.
I strongly disagree with your reading of that card.
"After you perform an attack that does not hit, if you are not stressed, you must receive 1 stress token. Then assign 1 focus token to your ship and acquire a target lock on the defender."
If you break it apart you get this:
Trigger : After you perform an attack that does not hit.
Effect number 1 : If you are not stressed, you must receive 1 stress token.
Effect number 2: Assign 1 focus token to your ship and acquire a target lock on the defender.
2 important notes on the card where I come up wth my interpretation are the must in you must receive 1 stress token is in bold letters. And then the word then is the fist word in the 2nd effect. Then assign one focu token to your ship and squire a target lock on the defender. Which leads me to believe you must receive a stress token for this to trigger and you can't recieve a stress token of you are already stressed. That's just how I interpret it doesn't mean it's right. Looking forward to the FAQ to clear some of this stuff up.
Apparently on another thread they already figured this out and your interpretation is correct. You will not need to take an additional stress if you already have a stress token and Bossk will still trigger which in my opinion makes him a great value. Good talk
I think that the
must
does two things here.
First it establishes that taking a stress (if you don't have one already) isn't optional. It's not a "if you pay a stress, you get to do something cool" ability.
Secondly, it is there to future proof in case Scum gets an effect like Yorr's ability that can intercept stress. Yorr's ability would be unable to intercept stress on behalf of a ship with Bossk crew when it misses because of the must .
One of the things that I think gets missed a lot with the Bossk crew card (or at least not discussed much) is that the entire thing is mandatory. There's not one optional bit on that card. If you've got a target lock on a slippery ship like Soontir but don't have a shot on him this round and take a shot at a different ship and whiff then your target lock will move to that ship even if you'd rather keep it on Soontir.
I just realized that I can't pop Glitterstim and use Opportunist in the same round on Talonbane.
What about this?
Latts
Weapons Engineer
Bossk
Talonbane Cobra
Opportunist
Palob
Recon Spec
Moldy
Blaster Turret
What about this?
Latts
Weapons Engineer
Bossk
Talonbane Cobra
Opportunist
Palob
Recon Spec
Moldy
Blaster Turret
That looks promising. I'm not a huge fan of Blaster Turrets even with Moldy Crow and Recon Specialist on Palob.
Some thoughts.
I think Wired will be a good EPT to replace Adrenaline Rush with on Pablo.
It is a shame that Opportunist/Glitterstim doesn't work.
Have you considered N'dru, with Homing Missiles, Glitterstim and either VI (for TL) or Crack Shot (for damage). I think it is a scarier build, doesn't have to survive to Range 2 and scares high agility targets like Fel as well. Against Decimators and other high health targets etc, it is still 5 damage which is still pretty great.
Bonus fourth point, you have an awkward amount of extra points left without pouring a ton of points into TBC.
Bossk HWK is the best name ever.
Edited by ID X TI like lonewolf and hotshot on N'dru. 4 dice out of arc with focus and a reroll is usually enough. As long as your opponent isn't playing vi bro it's you're fine!
I'm about to actually get ready to throw this on the table and am wondering if the list would be stronger with Guri instead of Talonbane. The drop in PS is rough and she doesn't hit as hard at range one but she should be much tougher to kill.
I was thinking something along the lines of
I was thinking that Bossk might actually be a cool crew to put on Palob with TLT and the Moldy Crow title. I'm not too set on the list as a whole and still have some points to play with but it seems like a combo that might be fun to mess with. It's ends up being sort of like a buzzsaw-lite effect. I tossed Adrenaline Rush on him just in case he really needs to use one of his red maneuvers while stressed.
Yeah, I've used Torkil w/ twin laser & bossk (no title). Its not bad, but you really need engine upgrade to make up for the possibility of getting stuck on green moves (adrenaline rush is a nice alternative, but only once).
I love Guri, so not a bad idea as a Talonbane replacement, but why not try her with Opportunist to continue the theme?
Yeah, I've used Torkil w/ twin laser & bossk (no title). Its not bad, but you really need engine upgrade to make up for the possibility of getting stuck on green moves (adrenaline rush is a nice alternative, but only once).I was thinking that Bossk might actually be a cool crew to put on Palob with TLT and the Moldy Crow title. I'm not too set on the list as a whole and still have some points to play with but it seems like a combo that might be fun to mess with. It's ends up being sort of like a buzzsaw-lite effect. I tossed Adrenaline Rush on him just in case he really needs to use one of his red maneuvers while stressed.
I love Guri, so not a bad idea as a Talonbane replacement, but why not try her with Opportunist to continue the theme?
I was actually planning on using Expert Handling on Palob to make it easier for him to control range and be a little less predictable than he would normally be when stuck on greens. If Bossk is going to be dealing out stress for missing, the stress from Expert Handling shouldn't be much of an issue. Expert Handling also has the nice effect of making Palob even more annoying about negating actions.
On 9/2/2015 at 0:56 PM, CatchySlim said:Once the new FAQ is announced I doubt you will be able to do this. The way I currently read the card leads me to believe that if you have a stress token you are unable to use Bossk. The 2 point cost for him doesn't add up to keep stacking stress.
That is false. You can you the effect but if you are already stressed you just don't take the second stress.
On 4.6.2017 at 9:07 AM, stormblest said:That is false. You can you the effect but if you are already stressed you just don't take the second stress.
Don't think anyone actually would doubt that 2 years later.
However the TLT/Bossk combo is dead for another reason, as Bossk happens after both TLTshots are through with the clarified timing chart.