As for the tactor beam... I don't think it's going to be that useful that often.

I don't know about most of what your guys' experience has been, but around where I am at, taking the nav command first round and thus cashing in for the token is pretty much an auto move for every ship.

What the tractor beam says to me is: make your opponent waste a command by requiring an unspent nav command to get a token to defend against tractor beam or risk being slowed down.

ISD-1 will be able to control 7 Fighters. Try focusing on that Carrier rebel scum...

Fatties hunting fatties:

An isd-2 with rhymer and four bombers

4 reds and 4 blacks at long

4 of the trifecta at medium

That's just mean

I hope the mc80 is very close in power and capability as this. Right now am loving what we will be able to build and the range of options with wave 2 ships, upgrades, squadrons and 400 points!

I have a funny feeling the MC80 will be speed 2 with very nasty tanking capabilities. Although Wookieepedia lists it as 60 MGLT (which is the same speed as a Vette and an ISD).

Wait, how ? I only see a Squadron Value of 4, to a maximum of 6 with Expanded Hangars and a token...

EDIT : Scratch that, double Expanded Hangars...

However, isn't a ship limited to one upgrade of the same type ? From the FAQ ?

Tractor beam is going to be game changing

Not sure about Vader though. Shoot me for treason, but he'd be downright broken as the commander of a rebel fleet

Imps though don't have that much red dice (sad) and their blackdice buddies already have ACM skreed

On the other hand, the isd 2 farts out asany reds as a EA fattie from the front, so Vader could find purchase there

The 10 point +dice for missing tokens title seems horribly situational

Can't spend exhausted tokens seems pretty sweet and the price is right

Command flexibility for 3 points still strikes me as solid

Ruthless Tact's seems bleh. Highly situational and conditional I think it could've gotten away at 2 points for the slot it takes.

Also HTLB w.e strike me as very situational. Maybe I'm just not getting it.

Also, apologies accepted needa. You're not much but you're not asking for much either you get to live Seems right at home on an isd with projectors. Manage that fat ass and you got yourself a giant, long range railgun

I would like to use the Ruthless Strategists on a Raider if they can slot one. Raider is designed for anti-squadron, so you'd get more use out of this upgrade than if you ran it on an ISD.

Is Armada like x wing where you can retold only once?

However, isn't a ship limited to one upgrade of the same type ? From the FAQ ?

oh crap I think you are right. Ok 6 squads.

I take that back. A ship can only have 1 card with a "modification" on it. I don't see where it says you can only have 1 of the same card. Although I did think I read that before?

and expanded hangers is not a modification.

ISD-1 will be able to control 7 Fighters. Try focusing on that Carrier rebel scum...

Is Armada like x wing where you can retold only once?

Is Armada like x wing where you can retold only once?

Not sure what you're asking!

the retold throws me

ISD-1 will be able to control 7 Fighters. Try focusing on that Carrier rebel scum...

how do you get 7? You can have only 1 copy of each upgrade so no, double Expanded Hanger Bays

"Yo dawg I heard you like expanded hangerbays. So we expanded your expanded hangerbays and -oh wait we can't do that..."

ISD-1 will be able to control 7 Fighters. Try focusing on that Carrier rebel scum...

how do you get 7? You can have only 1 copy of each upgrade so no, double Expanded Hanger Bays

a crap its in the FAQ.

Is Armada like x wing where you can retold only once?

I don't think there's a specific ruling that says you can't reroll more than once...

In fact, covered under events and timing, if you have rerolls from different sources that occur at the same time, you MIGHT get away with it...

But they'd have to be different sources... No using Darth Vader to Reroll, then using Darth Vader to Reroll...

Is Armada like x wing where you can retold only once?

retold?

Reroll -> Retold is a fairly common Autocorrect on my Wife's Phone, since I don't use it that often

ISD-1 will be able to control 7 Fighters. Try focusing on that Carrier rebel scum...

how do you get 7? You can have only 1 copy of each upgrade so no, double Expanded Hanger Bays

RRG P.13

Upgrade Cards

When building a fleet, upgrade cards can be equipped to ships by adding their fleet point costs to the total fleet point cost. For each upgrade icon in a ship’s upgrade bar, it may equip one upgrade card with the matching upgrade icon.

• Equipped upgrade cards are placed next to the ship card to which they are equipped.

• A Rebel ship cannot equip an Imperial upgrade card, and an Imperial ship cannot equip a Rebel upgrade card. A card’s faction affiliation, if any, is indicated by the faction’s symbol to the left of the fleet point cost.

• A ship cannot have more than one upgrade card with the “Modification” trait.

Expanded Hangers is not a "Modification" card, so you could stack double. It was the first thing I thought of when I saw offensive retrofit x 2

Therefore you can have double hanger bays.

(Edit: Bolded this last section for people just skimming the posts)

Therefore you cannot have double hanger bays.

(Edit: because I didn't check the FAQ's)

So, what are peoples opinions on captain needa? Replace a defensive token with an evade token? What ships will be taking him you think?

However, isn't a ship limited to one upgrade of the same type ? From the FAQ ?

oh crap I think you are right. Ok 6 squads.

I take that back. A ship can only have 1 card with a "modification" on it. I don't see where it says you can only have 1 of the same card. Although I did think I read that before?

and expanded hangers is not a modification.

Pg 1 under fleet building

"A ship cannot equip more than 1 copy of the same upgrade"

The modification refers to having only 1 modification total (even if they are different upgrades)

ISD-1 will be able to control 7 Fighters. Try focusing on that Carrier rebel scum...

how do you get 7? You can have only 1 copy of each upgrade so no, double Expanded Hanger Bays

RRG P.13

Upgrade Cards

When building a fleet, upgrade cards can be equipped to ships by adding their fleet point costs to the total fleet point cost. For each upgrade icon in a ship’s upgrade bar, it may equip one upgrade card with the matching upgrade icon.

• Equipped upgrade cards are placed next to the ship card to which they are equipped.

• A Rebel ship cannot equip an Imperial upgrade card, and an Imperial ship cannot equip a Rebel upgrade card. A card’s faction affiliation, if any, is indicated by the faction’s symbol to the left of the fleet point cost.

• A ship cannot have more than one upgrade card with the “Modification” trait.

Expanded Hangers is not a "Modification" card, so you could stack double. It was the first thing I thought of when I saw offensive retrofit x 2

nope found it in the FAQ.

Fleet Building, p.6 This entry should include the following bullet point: “A ship cannot equip more than one copy of the same upgrade card.”

Therefore you can have double hanger bays.

(Edit: Bolded this last section for people just skimming the posts)

Check the FAQ

However, isn't a ship limited to one upgrade of the same type ? From the FAQ ?

oh crap I think you are right. Ok 6 squads.

I take that back. A ship can only have 1 card with a "modification" on it. I don't see where it says you can only have 1 of the same card. Although I did think I read that before?

and expanded hangers is not a modification.

check the FAQ

The Victory is now officially decommissioned.

ISD-1 will be able to control 7 Fighters. Try focusing on that Carrier rebel scum...

how do you get 7? You can have only 1 copy of each upgrade so no, double Expanded Hanger Bays

RRG P.13

Upgrade Cards

When building a fleet, upgrade cards can be equipped to ships by adding their fleet point costs to the total fleet point cost. For each upgrade icon in a ship’s upgrade bar, it may equip one upgrade card with the matching upgrade icon.

• Equipped upgrade cards are placed next to the ship card to which they are equipped.

• A Rebel ship cannot equip an Imperial upgrade card, and an Imperial ship cannot equip a Rebel upgrade card. A card’s faction affiliation, if any, is indicated by the faction’s symbol to the left of the fleet point cost.

• A ship cannot have more than one upgrade card with the “Modification” trait.

Expanded Hangers is not a "Modification" card, so you could stack double. It was the first thing I thought of when I saw offensive retrofit x 2

nope found it in the FAQ.

Fleet Building, p.6 This entry should include the following bullet point: “A ship cannot equip more than one copy of the same upgrade card.”

I stand corrected. They're right, it SHOULD be in the damned RRG. They should release a comprehensive RRG with all of these updates so we don't have the RRG and 2 (and I'm assuming a 3rd in the pipes) FQA's / erratas.

The Victory is now officially decommissioned.

Not for me... They're getting seriously Refit

A Vic-1 with Heavy Turbolaser Turrets and Expanded Launchers, throws out as many Nasty Dice as an Imp-1 out the Front Arc (albeit, at slightly different bracket - more close, no moderate) for 94 points... Sure, it has less Hull and 1 less shield on that arc... But its 16 points cheaper! That's a Howlrunner!

And Boy howdy, hits HARD with that Shot...

It's very strong, but I'm not sure about OP. In addition to his 36pt cost, he has other costs too- lowering your defense.

I think that makes Vader both VERY thematic, AND appropriately costed. Looking forward to using him!

Also, Overload pulse would make using him very costly on ships affected by it.

The Victory is now officially decommissioned.

Not for me... They're getting seriously Refit

Yeah, need to rethink their role in the fleet compared to the ISD

Perhaps to catch ships that it flushed out ? I can definitely see a VVI list working.