Corran Killer?

By Shrapnelbait, in X-Wing Squad Lists

With the new Advanced Homing Missile just out, low hull ships might be in for a world of hurt. I was thinking of this addition to an Empire build:

Your choice of Firespray, Slave I title, Extra Munitions, Advanced Homing Missiles, Darth Vader, Proton Bombs, Munitions Failsafe

If the AHM hits, Vader can be used to finish off Corran Horn or Tycho if you don't pull a "Direct Hit". The proton Bomb can be dropped to catch Bwings for the third point of damage. With the Extra Munitions and Munitions Failsafe, You have more than one shot at knocking them out.

if you want a Corran Killer try Maarek Stele (tie Adv Pilot) choose youre crit, blind him, direct hit, minor explosion, or no actions. are brutal if not life ending. I fly my Stele with Colzet and Whisper. So if Stele pulls up a Blinded Pilot Colzet spends every turn flipping it back over. leaving horn in a state worse than death.

if you want a Corran Killer try Maarek Stele (tie Adv Pilot) choose youre crit, blind him, direct hit, minor explosion, or no actions. are brutal if not life ending. I fly my Stele with Colzet and Whisper. So if Stele pulls up a Blinded Pilot Colzet spends every turn flipping it back over. leaving horn in a state worse than death.

Unfortunately Colzet doesn't get to 'choose' which card he flips over. Its random. Of course, that's moot if the target only has one damage card...

if you want a Corran Killer try Maarek Stele (tie Adv Pilot) choose youre crit, blind him, direct hit, minor explosion, or no actions. are brutal if not life ending. I fly my Stele with Colzet and Whisper. So if Stele pulls up a Blinded Pilot Colzet spends every turn flipping it back over. leaving horn in a state worse than death.

Unfortunately Colzet doesn't get to 'choose' which card he flips over. Its random. Of course, that's moot if the target only has one damage card...

i know, in this instance (ive done it before) where instead of killing my friends corran horn i Blinded him and every turn kept reblinding him, forcing him to 'double tap' just to attack. and even if he "double tapped" as i read it they trigger at the same time allowing colzet to force him to blank out again. In frustration he flew horn off the map.

if horn is you target then deathrain with conner net should do the trick

if you want a Corran Killer try Maarek Stele (tie Adv Pilot) choose youre crit, blind him, direct hit, minor explosion, or no actions. are brutal if not life ending. I fly my Stele with Colzet and Whisper. So if Stele pulls up a Blinded Pilot Colzet spends every turn flipping it back over. leaving horn in a state worse than death.

Sounds like a really fun list, what do you kit them out with?

if you want a Corran Killer try Maarek Stele (tie Adv Pilot) choose youre crit, blind him, direct hit, minor explosion, or no actions. are brutal if not life ending. I fly my Stele with Colzet and Whisper. So if Stele pulls up a Blinded Pilot Colzet spends every turn flipping it back over. leaving horn in a state worse than death.

Sounds like a really fun list, what do you kit them out with?

'Standard' buzzsaw whiper 44 points

ACD FCS Gunner VI

Stele with Adv Homing

Crackshot and title with ATC

and Colzet with title accuracy corrector

comes to 99

'Standard' buzzsaw whiper 44 points

ACD FCS Gunner VI

Stele with Adv Homing

Crackshot and title with ATC

and Colzet with title accuracy corrector

comes to 99

Why not FCS on colzet? That way you free up your action for evade or barrel roll (as needed), and can still get a TL when you k-turn...

'Standard' buzzsaw whiper 44 points

ACD FCS Gunner VI

Stele with Adv Homing

Crackshot and title with ATC

and Colzet with title accuracy corrector

comes to 99

Why not FCS on colzet? That way you free up your action for evade or barrel roll (as needed), and can still get a TL when you k-turn...

Colzet is literally the only Advanced who can even consider FCS, and even then, the increased ability to activate his pilot ability is probably not worth the reduced damage by not picking AC.

'Standard' buzzsaw whiper 44 points

ACD FCS Gunner VI

Stele with Adv Homing

Crackshot and title with ATC

and Colzet with title accuracy corrector

comes to 99

Why not FCS on colzet? That way you free up your action for evade or barrel roll (as needed), and can still get a TL when you k-turn...

Colzet is literally the only Advanced who can even consider FCS, and even then, the increased ability to activate his pilot ability is probably not worth the reduced damage by not picking AC.

AC is better than FCS at range 2-3, but not at range 1. I don't know the math, but I don't think the differences are that significant. I've tried both on Colzet and found his ability is sometimes better than the tiny damage bump accuracy affords and sometimes its not. Either way I don't think you lose anything significant, because your biggest damage dealers will be Colzet's wingmen (hopefully! if Colzet is the hardest hitter in your list, then its got more serious problems than the choice of system he's using...)

The biggest advantage of FCS I find in Colzet's case is the fact that you are always free to take another action with him, which can be very useful. With accuracy corrector, he feels pressured to always take TL whenever there are damage cards on opponents, and that limits his options somewhat, imho.

Edited by blade_mercurial

'Standard' buzzsaw whiper 44 points

ACD FCS Gunner VI

Stele with Adv Homing

Crackshot and title with ATC

and Colzet with title accuracy corrector

comes to 99

Why not FCS on colzet? That way you free up your action for evade or barrel roll (as needed), and can still get a TL when you k-turn...

Colzet is literally the only Advanced who can even consider FCS, and even then, the increased ability to activate his pilot ability is probably not worth the reduced damage by not picking AC.

AC is better than FCS at range 2-3, but not at range 1. I don't know the math, but I don't think the differences are that significant. I've tried both on Colzet and found his ability is sometimes better than the tiny damage bump accuracy affords and sometimes its not. Either way I don't think you lose anything significant, because your biggest damage dealers will be Colzet's wingmen (hopefully! if Colzet is the hardest hitter in your list, then its got more serious problems than the choice of system he's using...)

The biggest advantage of FCS I find in Colzet's case is the fact that you are always free to take another action with him, which can be very useful. With accuracy corrector, he feels pressured to always take TL whenever there are damage cards on opponents, and that limits his options somewhat, imho.

i'll be honest never really gave it too much thought just immediately went to AC because i remember playing the list on Vassal vs someone using Sensor Jammer on IG's and thinking MAN this is annoying how can i get around that, He's not there for 'major damage' he's there for the Kill me or I wear down your mental state game so i figure use him as a low PS blocker guaranteed '2 hits' that need to be evaded.

Also sometimes in cases mentioned above you dont want to TL your firing target, rather the 'juicier' not attackable target, who's to say that with FCS you dont get a shot that turn, now your relegated to taking a TL action to get value anyway and youre just wasting 2 Free points. more often than not i found myself TL'ing because i moved first once i got my TL, doesnt matter if they do a 5 straight and boost colzet's ability still works

Edited by Panic 217

i'll be honest never really gave it too much thought just immediately went to AC because i remember playing the list on Vassal vs someone using Sensor Jammer on IG's and thinking MAN this is annoying how can i get around that, He's not there for 'major damage' he's there for the Kill me or I wear down your mental state game so i figure use him as a low PS blocker guaranteed '2 hits' that need to be evaded.

Also sometimes in cases mentioned above you dont want to TL your firing target, rather the 'juicier' not attackable target, who's to say that with FCS you dont get a shot that turn, now your relegated to taking a TL action to get value anyway and youre just wasting 2 Free points. more often than not i found myself TL'ing because i moved first once i got my TL, doesnt matter if they do a 5 straight and boost colzet's ability still works

Fair enough. I can honestly see going either way with Colzet. I don't think one is necessarily superior, although maybe I'll change my mind when I get to use him some more. So many lists to try! :P

i'll be honest never really gave it too much thought just immediately went to AC because i remember playing the list on Vassal vs someone using Sensor Jammer on IG's and thinking MAN this is annoying how can i get around that, He's not there for 'major damage' he's there for the Kill me or I wear down your mental state game so i figure use him as a low PS blocker guaranteed '2 hits' that need to be evaded.

Also sometimes in cases mentioned above you dont want to TL your firing target, rather the 'juicier' not attackable target, who's to say that with FCS you dont get a shot that turn, now your relegated to taking a TL action to get value anyway and youre just wasting 2 Free points. more often than not i found myself TL'ing because i moved first once i got my TL, doesnt matter if they do a 5 straight and boost colzet's ability still works

Fair enough. I can honestly see going either way with Colzet. I don't think one is necessarily superior, although maybe I'll change my mind when I get to use him some more. So many lists to try! :P

ever since the title and the raider ive been like, hmm i have 23 points left over... WHY NOT COLZET?! he's a threat only when threats arent dealt with, but is still a threat enough with Stele that its a tough choice between the two. Colzet ALWAYS gets his TL (one way or another)

Brath PTL HLC Tie MK2 (48)

Stele Title ATC (28)

Colzet title AC (23)

CRITZZZZZZZ

Edited by Panic 217

ever since the title and the raider ive been like, hmm i have 23 points left over... WHY NOT COLZET?! he's a threat only when threats arent dealt with, but is still a threat enough with Stele that its a tough choice between the two. Colzet ALWAYS gets his TL (one way or another)

Brath PTL HLC Tie MK2 (48)

Stele Title ATC (28)

Colzet title AC (23)

CRITZZZZZZZ

I love seeing lists with Defenders in em.

I was trying a double Advanced + Brath list, but I'm not sold on the cluster missiles:

Brath w/ predator, HLC + Hull = 50

2 tempests w/ title, AcC + clusters = 25 x 2

It deals lots of damage if I can get the approach right, but against certain matchups, the tempests don't pull their weight (vs. Dash in particular, although they got game if he's teamed up with Corran).

ever since the title and the raider ive been like, hmm i have 23 points left over... WHY NOT COLZET?! he's a threat only when threats arent dealt with, but is still a threat enough with Stele that its a tough choice between the two. Colzet ALWAYS gets his TL (one way or another)

Brath PTL HLC Tie MK2 (48)

Stele Title ATC (28)

Colzet title AC (23)

CRITZZZZZZZ

I love seeing lists with Defenders in em.

I was trying a double Advanced + Brath list, but I'm not sold on the cluster missiles:

Brath w/ predator, HLC + Hull = 50

2 tempests w/ title, AcC + clusters = 25 x 2

It deals lots of damage if I can get the approach right, but against certain matchups, the tempests don't pull their weight (vs. Dash in particular, although they got game if he's teamed up with Corran).

i feel like once the new damage deck gets released Soon it will be time to run as I will dub them now THE BRATH BROS (close to bash bros [smash bros]) and with Major Hull breach crits abound should be fun list!