Seems pretty good against a meta full of lists that reliably dump 8 attacks on things. On a Firespray it'll probably end up blocking at least a few hits.

God **** I love the TLT meta, Flight Instructor of all cards is now playable.

That's actually pretty good!

So from a PWT meta to a SWT meta. Sweet...

I haven't tried Flight instructor but Sensor Jammer is really good against it from what I've seen.

Not many ships that can make good use of it, though. Firespray and YT-2400 are the obvious candidates, but Lord knows there's plenty of competition for the Firespray's backseat slot.

So from a PWT meta to a SWT meta. Sweet...

the number of ships has doubled and the PS has dropped real low. We have a lot of counters now and arc dodging works on the ship's designed to do that. So many ships and upgrades are now usable again.

I haven't tried Flight instructor but Sensor Jammer is really good against it from what I've seen.

a-wings with autothrusters and prockets or cluster missiles sound really really good vs TLT.

I don't think it's that good of a card, even against TLT. If we assume a single modification for two TLT attacks, the breakdown is as follows:

Modified Attack:

2% 0 Booms

14% 1 Boom

42% 2 Booms

42% 3 Booms

Unmodified Attack:

12.5% 0 Booms

37.5% 1 Boom

37.5% 2 Booms

12.5% 3 Booms

So, for Flight Instructor to be useful, you have to roll 1 less evade than you need, and at least 1 focus, and reroll that focus into an evade. Heck, we'll go ahead and say it's a PS2 attacker, so you can reroll focus or blanks!

On a Firespray/YT-2400, at most you can roll 2 Evades, so you're going to be taking damage regardless of FI against 3 booms. Likewise, regardless of FI you won't be taking damage against the 0 booms. Therefore, there's a 56% chance for it to work on the first attack, and 75% to work on the second.

First attack rolls 1 boom, you roll 0 evades, and then FI rolls an evade = 14% * 39% * 38% = 2%

First attack rolls 2 booms, you roll 1 evade, and then FI rolls an evade = 42% * 47% * 38% = 7.5%

Second attack rolls 1 boom, you roll 0 evades, and then FI rolls an evade = 37.5% * 39% * 38% = 5.4%

Second attack rolls 2 booms, you roll 1 evade, and then FI rolls an evade = 37.5% * 47% * 38% = 6.7%

Therefore, for each TLT attack, Flight Instructor has a 19.3% chance of blocking 1 damage, and a 1.1% chance of blocking 2 damage. I suppose that means that it does pay back versus a hull upgrade, if you know you're facing PS2 TLT swarms. But as others have said, the crew slot is very valuable (one could probably argue that Recon Spec would provide a better result, but that requires an action and more math), and Flight Instructor doesn't prove out to be significantly useful. Plus, this is assuming you're going against PS2 TLT swarms.

It's a fun casual concept but it's a lot of points for a valuable slot. If you were only flying PS2 thug lists it would be worth it but inefficient vs everything else.

The main problem is that it rerolls a focus most of the time. That's a reroll for a hope of an evade when you could just spend a focus for a guaranteed result.

I haven't tried Flight instructor but Sensor Jammer is really good against it from what I've seen.

Yeah. I wish I could find a point from somewhere to turn Fel/Whisper with Sensor Jammer-VI-IA/Tempest into Fel/Whisper/Storm and still keep an initiative bid. I s'pose I could switch out Whisper for Echo, but that free focus for defence seems pretty valuable. And losing the Intel Agent has its own risks.

I think Whisper -> Echo is a good substitution if you're worried mainly about dealing with low-PS swarms. In fact, you don't even need VI any more, which frees you up to use a better talent (Lone Wolf + Sensor Jammer makes you **** near immune to TLT).

With that in mind, perhaps something like this?

Could swap Fel's Hull Upgrade for Proton Rockets on the Storm, if you want.

I think Whisper -> Echo is a good substitution if you're worried mainly about dealing with low-PS swarms. In fact, you don't even need VI any more, which frees you up to use a better talent (Lone Wolf + Sensor Jammer makes you **** near immune to TLT).

With that in mind, perhaps something like this?

Soontir Fel (27)

Push the Limit (3)

Autothrusters (2)

Hull Upgrade (3)

Royal Guard TIE (0)

"Echo" (30)

Lone Wolf (2)

Sensor Jammer (4)

Intelligence Agent (1)

Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

Storm Squadron Pilot (23)

Accuracy Corrector (0)

TIE/x1 (0)

Total: 99

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Could swap Fel's Hull Upgrade for Proton Rockets on the Storm, if you want.

I agree that if all I was worried about were TLTs I'd happily ditch VI, but I feel I should have at least PS8 as Aggressor Insurance.

What's your thinking with Hull Upgrade over Stealth Device? I don't necessarily disagree, I'm just interested in where you're coming from.

Mostly that hit points > agility when it comes to dealing with TLTs. A Hull Upgrade always "cancels" exactly one TLT attack, and my intuition is to fight consistency with consistency.

It's better against TLT's than it is against most other things, but it's still not that great.

Boba Fett (39)

Predator (3)

Flight Instructor (4)

Stealth Device (3)

Now Fett has rerolls on offense and defense against low-PS builds. Stealth Device gives him a chance of completely evading a TLT attack.

Yes, I know it sucks.

It's better against TLT's than it is against most other things, but it's still not that great.

Flight Instructor is just too expensive and there are too many other good crew options. Even if it was two points like Autothrusters it might be okay but only having a 3/8 chance of getting an evade is so low it's really only good against low PS pilots.

I haven't tried Flight instructor but Sensor Jammer is really good against it from what I've seen.

Yeah. I wish I could find a point from somewhere to turn Fel/Whisper with Sensor Jammer-VI-IA/Tempest into Fel/Whisper/Storm and still keep an initiative bid. I s'pose I could switch out Whisper for Echo, but that free focus for defence seems pretty valuable. And losing the Intel Agent has its own risks.

I think Whisper -> Echo is a good substitution if you're worried mainly about dealing with low-PS swarms. In fact, you don't even need VI any more, which frees you up to use a better talent (Lone Wolf + Sensor Jammer makes you **** near immune to TLT).

With that in mind, perhaps something like this?

Soontir Fel (27)

Push the Limit (3)

Autothrusters (2)

Hull Upgrade (3)

Royal Guard TIE (0)

"Echo" (30)

Lone Wolf (2)

Sensor Jammer (4)

Intelligence Agent (1)

Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

Storm Squadron Pilot (23)

Accuracy Corrector (0)

TIE/x1 (0)

Total: 99

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

Could swap Fel's Hull Upgrade for Proton Rockets on the Storm, if you want.

What about putting the Flight Instructors on the HWK's in your own TLT spam list?

What about putting the Flight Instructors on the HWK's in your own TLT spam list?

You could put them on 3/4 of a 4 Spice Runners/Rebel Operatives with TLT list. You'd probably be better off putting Recon Specialists on all of them and spending the focus tokens defensively.

Which is better for a Tie Phantom? Gunner and Sensor Jammer or Fire Control System and Flight Instructor?

Which is better for a Tie Phantom? Gunner and Sensor Jammer or Fire Control System and Flight Instructor?

It really depends on what you are fighting. Flight Instructor is really only decent against low PS attackers.

What about putting the Flight Instructors on the HWK's in your own TLT spam list?

You could put them on 3/4 of a 4 Spice Runners/Rebel Operatives with TLT list. You'd probably be better off putting Recon Specialists on all of them and spending the focus tokens defensively.

Yeah I was just trying to be funny about making your own TLT list stronger against another TLT spam list but actual math is getting in the way, particularly when I slightly misread the FI card...

What about putting the Flight Instructors on the HWK's in your own TLT spam list?

You could put them on 3/4 of a 4 Spice Runners/Rebel Operatives with TLT list. You'd probably be better off putting Recon Specialists on all of them and spending the focus tokens defensively.

Yeah I was just trying to be funny about making your own TLT list stronger against another TLT spam list but actual math is getting in the way, particularly when I slightly misread the FI card...

There's a bunch of little tweaks that could have made Flight Instructor a decent card but unless they smacked Not for Rebels on it as well it would make Fat Falcons even more obnoxiously durable.

What about putting the Flight Instructors on the HWK's in your own TLT spam list?

You could put them on 3/4 of a 4 Spice Runners/Rebel Operatives with TLT list. You'd probably be better off putting Recon Specialists on all of them and spending the focus tokens defensively.

Yeah I was just trying to be funny about making your own TLT list stronger against another TLT spam list but actual math is getting in the way, particularly when I slightly misread the FI card...

There's a bunch of little tweaks that could have made Flight Instructor a decent card but unless they smacked Not for Rebels on it as well it would make Fat Falcons even more obnoxiously durable.

I don't know about that. You don't see very many LW Fat Hans (which I find interesting), rerolling blanks right now. Adding FI would mean dropping R2D2, Gunner, or C3PO... And it's not a cost save. I can't see FI, even with some tweaks replacing any of those cards, unless it was a pure "you can convert a focus to an evade" tweak. At which point, it's more than likely completely broken.

What about putting the Flight Instructors on the HWK's in your own TLT spam list?

You could put them on 3/4 of a 4 Spice Runners/Rebel Operatives with TLT list. You'd probably be better off putting Recon Specialists on all of them and spending the focus tokens defensively.

Yeah I was just trying to be funny about making your own TLT list stronger against another TLT spam list but actual math is getting in the way, particularly when I slightly misread the FI card...

There's a bunch of little tweaks that could have made Flight Instructor a decent card but unless they smacked Not for Rebels on it as well it would make Fat Falcons even more obnoxiously durable.

I don't know about that. You don't see very many LW Fat Hans (which I find interesting), rerolling blanks right now. Adding FI would mean dropping R2D2, Gunner, or C3PO... And it's not a cost save. I can't see FI, even with some tweaks replacing any of those cards, unless it was a pure "you can convert a focus to an evade" tweak. At which point, it's more than likely completely broken.

For Flight Instructor to be a good option for most ships and worth 4 points, it would need something like this:

- When defending, you may reroll 1 defense die. If the attacker's pilot skill value is "2" or lower, you may change a <eyeball> result to a <evade> result instead.

That's a good card that's worth it's points and keeps the original intention and flavor of the card. It isn't really overpowered on anything other than a Fat Falcon.