S&V Episode 16: Twin Laser Tyranny

By SableGryphon, in X-Wing

Join us once more for Episode 16 of the Scum and Villainy Podcast. Kelvin Tiberius, Sable Gryphon, Antigrapist, and Sozin continue their tireless exploration of the world of X-Wing. With the full release of Wave 7, there is much to talk about.


What new cards and ships are changing the meta?


What lists are the intrepid hosts running?


Can anything survive in the Age Of The Twin Laser Turret?


Find out in the newest episode of the Scum and Villainy Podcast!


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Awesome timing. I'm spending most of the day in hospital waiting rooms.

The mean list of meanness is truly mean, even when it only means to get mean results, it's still quite mean.

Nice, looking forward to listening!

I like the TLT list, I flew the same exact list last week on vassal. :)

The Rebel version with R3-A2 is probably better, because, well, R3-A2.

Gold + ICT + BTL-A4 + R3-A2

3x Gold + TLT + R2

So are most people trending towards leaving the title off unless r3a2 is there?

So are most people trending towards leaving the title off unless r3a2 is there?

I think the conventional wisdom is that if you are running a TLT heavy list you give up too much by restricting yourself to your arc. TLT and BTL-A4 leave you with a really nice range 2 in arc shot but that's about it.

That's not a mean list of meanness. That's a Disgusting Decimator of Doom.

As for TLT and BTL-A4: only if you have R2 Astromechs, and even then you really need to think about it. The Y-Wing cannot shed stress well at all. I had a match a couple of days ago where it came down to my Palpimator with Engine Upgrade against four BTL Y-Wings, three of which were still undamaged. The Deci actually pulled it off entirely because the Y-Wings had stressed themselves on a K-turn, allowing the Decimator to arc-dodge and pummel them with crits. Had the Y-Wings kept their turrets, he could have pummeled me into oblivion.

More like a disgusting decimator of decimators

Really Sable, no pale void narwhal?

Im kinda of disappointed

Sable's Palpacunn is impressive.

Good episode, guys.

Glitterstim is definitely a legit upgrade that doesn't seem to be getting enough attention.

Who ended up winning Sozin vs. Sideslip?

I believe Sozin did.

Good episode, guys.

Glitterstim is definitely a legit upgrade that doesn't seem to be getting enough attention.

It is probably the second best card of the wave.

I have been talking about concussion missiles with glitterstim on Zs since the day I heard about glitterstim. Alpha strike X wing is coming. The rock paper scissors is here!

6 points on low PS that requires TL to fire...eh, color me unimpressed by stim clusters

now N'dru flings 8 total dice, and that's a different story

Psst....

Rebel Operative + TLT x2
Roark Garnet + TLT
Kyle Katarn + TLT + Swarm Tactics + Jan Ors

There's your 4 TLTs - firing at PS 12, 6, 6 , 4. (Or 12 12 4 2)

Edited by Ravncat

6 points on low PS that requires TL to fire...eh, color me unimpressed by stim clusters

now N'dru flings 8 total dice, and that's a different story

Could even throw an extra three points on there to give him Predator. 8 dice with 1-2 rerolls per 4 dice. That will turn most pancakes into a crepe.

Edited by PhantomFO

6 points on low PS that requires TL to fire...eh, color me unimpressed by stim clusters

now N'dru flings 8 total dice, and that's a different story

Could even throw an extra three points on there to give him Predator. 8 dice with 1-2 rerolls per 4 dice. That will turn most pancakes into a crepe.

I'd go with Lone Wolf instead to save the point. I tend to prefer Predator due to the consistency and being able to re-roll focus symbols, but it dovetails with glitterstim and N'Dru so perfectly

I'm a bit surprised that there is so little Alpha-Strike discussion.

6 points on low PS that requires TL to fire...eh, color me unimpressed by stim clusters

now N'dru flings 8 total dice, and that's a different story

Could even throw an extra three points on there to give him Predator. 8 dice with 1-2 rerolls per 4 dice. That will turn most pancakes into a crepe.

I'd go with Lone Wolf instead to save the point. I tend to prefer Predator due to the consistency and being able to re-roll focus symbols, but it dovetails with glitterstim and N'Dru so perfectly

Yeah, very solid point. Good lord, that N'dru would be disgusting and I want to fly it in my next Vassal match.

6 points on low PS that requires TL to fire...eh, color me unimpressed by stim clusters

now N'dru flings 8 total dice, and that's a different story

Could even throw an extra three points on there to give him Predator. 8 dice with 1-2 rerolls per 4 dice. That will turn most pancakes into a crepe.

I'd go with Lone Wolf instead to save the point. I tend to prefer Predator due to the consistency and being able to re-roll focus symbols, but it dovetails with glitterstim and N'Dru so perfectly

Yeah, very solid point. Good lord, that N'dru would be disgusting and I want to fly it in my next Vassal match.

At 25 points you can swap out a TLT Y-Wing for him.

N'Dru Suhlak (17)
Lone Wolf (2)
Cluster Missiles (4)
Glitterstim (2)
Syndicate Thug (18)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Unhinged Astromech (1)
Syndicate Thug (18)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Unhinged Astromech (1)
Syndicate Thug (18)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Unhinged Astromech (1)
Total: 100
Edited by WWHSD

I like to think that 83 year old John Williams composed that dubstep mix, sitting in his dark basement, R2-D2 replica shining a single beam of light onto his turntables.

That outro was something else, right??

Not gonna lie, I reversed the podcast just to listen to the outro again while rocking out a bit in my car ;)