I'm curious because there is a local tournament this weekend, how is scoring going to be handled for the Z deployed with the Hounds Tooth title? Do you have to kill it to get all of the points? Or do you get the points for the main ship but not the Z if time is called?

If the pup is the last ship on the field you win the game 100-100

if there are oppnent's ships on the field after the time call, you have to calculate the Mov as usual then, the YV-666 points destroyed counts even if the pup is out

Cool. So does that mean if say my opponent has just the Pup out and I have any remaining ship on my side still and time is called, I win? Would I get the points for YV666 minus the 6 points spent on the Hounds Tooth upgrade? Thanx for the help.

Yes correct, you count the YV.666 as any other ships when is destroyed in the game. The points of the title , are like the points of any other upgrades on the ships They are always counted regardless of whether the pup is still in play , or be destroyed

More simply put:

Destroy YV-666 gets you all the points, destroying the pup get's you nothing (it has no value).

More simply put:

Destroy YV-666 gets you all the points, destroying the pup get's you nothing (it has no value).

It does have a value, just not in points. If it's the last ship on the board, it scores the win.

Cool. So does that mean if say my opponent has just the Pup out and I have any remaining ship on my side still and time is called, I win? Would I get the points for YV666 minus the 6 points spent on the Hounds Tooth upgrade? Thanx for the help.

Not always. If he was playing a squad below 100 points he could have still destroyed more points worth of ships and win on points although it is unlikely to happen. Most likely you do win and get full points for everything destroyed; the Pup is worth NOTHING as the Hound's Tooth upgrade goes down with the ship.

Until this is FAQ'd the Pup is not worth the 6 points for the title in tournament play.Honestly, is a Z-95 going to hold up against some of the meta these days?

Until this is FAQ'd the Pup is not worth the 6 points for the title in tournament play.Honestly, is a Z-95 going to hold up against some of the meta these days?

We had a situation happen in a regional tournament where the last ship of one player was destroyed, but the thermal detonator (which his opponent had forgotten about) activated and destroyed the last enemy ship. It ended in a draw. With the pup, it would have been a win

Until this is FAQ'd the Pup is not worth the 6 points for the title in tournament play.Honestly, is a Z-95 going to hold up against some of the meta these days?

If the Hounds Tooth is regularly the first ship you lose the can easily be worth the points you pay for it. That Z-95 is an extra attack and 4 health that your opponent scores nothing for. If they do anything but ignore it, then it was increased the survivability of your other ships. If it is able to inflict a couple of points of damage it was worth its cost. If it peeled off an evade token or made Han use C3PO for lower PS pilots to cause damage it was worth the points. Latts can be flying around not worrying about getting a target in arc and lowering agility for the rest of the squad. Does your opponent try to get rid of the pest or ignore it and just try to score?

the thermal detonator (which his opponent had forgotten about) activated and destroyed the last enemy ship.

A card that isn't going to be released for several months yet and that we don't know what it does yet?

the thermal detonator (which his opponent had forgotten about) activated and destroyed the last enemy ship.

A card that isn't going to be released for several months yet and that we don't know what it does yet?

I'm guessing he meant Deadman's Switch.

I'm guessing he meant Deadman's Switch.

Ah. That would make sense.

Cool. So does that mean if say my opponent has just the Pup out and I have any remaining ship on my side still and time is called, I win? Would I get the points for YV666 minus the 6 points spent on the Hounds Tooth upgrade? Thanx for the help.

Not always. If he was playing a squad below 100 points he could have still destroyed more points worth of ships and win on points although it is unlikely to happen. Most likely you do win and get full points for everything destroyed; the Pup is worth NOTHING as the Hound's Tooth upgrade goes down with the ship.

No, killing all of your opponents ships always counts as 100 points. It would still be a 100-100 win.

Cool. So does that mean if say my opponent has just the Pup out and I have any remaining ship on my side still and time is called, I win? Would I get the points for YV666 minus the 6 points spent on the Hounds Tooth upgrade? Thanx for the help.

Not always. If he was playing a squad below 100 points he could have still destroyed more points worth of ships and win on points although it is unlikely to happen. Most likely you do win and get full points for everything destroyed; the Pup is worth NOTHING as the Hound's Tooth upgrade goes down with the ship.

No, killing all of your opponents ships always counts as 100 points. It would still be a 100-100 win.

But all ships where not destroyed on either side in the quoted example.

Cool. So does that mean if say my opponent has just the Pup out and I have any remaining ship on my side still and time is called, I win? Would I get the points for YV666 minus the 6 points spent on the Hounds Tooth upgrade? Thanx for the help.

Not always. If he was playing a squad below 100 points he could have still destroyed more points worth of ships and win on points although it is unlikely to happen. Most likely you do win and get full points for everything destroyed; the Pup is worth NOTHING as the Hound's Tooth upgrade goes down with the ship.

No, killing all of your opponents ships always counts as 100 points. It would still be a 100-100 win.

Killing all of your opponent's ships counts as killing 100 points. You may want to take another look at the example. In it BOTH sides still have ships left. One side has a Pup worth 0 points and the other side has a ship that is presumably worth 12 points or more unless it is also a Pup. Say the Pup's squadron was build to 86 points and the other side was build to 99 points with an Academy pilot left. One side destroyed 86 points while the other destroyed 87 points; it looks to me like a modified win for the Pup with a 101 point MoV.

The pup is worth zero points and has special rules regarding when it is placed onto the table. Otherwise it is a ship just like any other and you should treat it as such.

They probably need to add a line into the tournament rules specifically addressing this, it's kind of weird.

They probably need to add a line into the tournament rules specifically addressing this, it's kind of weird.

I don't see why. If both sides have ships the game continues. If time is called the side that destroyed the most points worth of ships wins. There is nothing hard about that.

The case I point out is likely to be rare enough because it doesn't make a lot of strategic sense to even try it that I don't see it ever becoming an issue.

End of Match Each tournament match ends in one of the following ways:

• All of one player’s ships are destroyed (respecting the Simultaneous Attack Rule on page 16 of the Rules of Play). The player with at least one ship remaining immediately earns a win, and the opposing player receives a loss. If neither player has any remaining ships, the game ends in a draw.

• At the end of the current round, the match time limit has been reached. (If time is called mid-round, players must finish the round.) Each player calculates their score by adding together the total squad point value of their opponent’s destroyed ships, including Upgrade cards equipped to those ships. The player with the greater score receives a win, and his opponent receives a loss. If the winning player’s score is fewer than 12 points more than his or her opponent’s score, that player receives a win. If both players have the same score, the game ends in a draw.

• A player voluntarily concedes defeat at any point during the match. The conceding player receives a loss and the opponent receives a win.

The tournament rules are quite clear, the only thing that you need when pup is in play is highlighted the player with pup, win for 100-100 when the pup is the last ship in play as said above in this discussion

Until this is FAQ'd the Pup is not worth the 6 points for the title in tournament play.Honestly, is a Z-95 going to hold up against some of the meta these days?

It did against my Fett/IG88B list. My opponent used the pilot that reduces agility by spending a TL. I killed the Hounds Tooth first then the rest of his list. In the end it was Fett vs. the Pup with the Pup coming out on top due to total dice failure on my part.