Spacecraft n a suicide run at full speed verus Imperial palace I'm putting my money on the ship winning. And with Palpatine's arrogance post ROTS he'll never see it coming because he believes he is invincible

The planet shield would prevent anything coming from space, and there is certainly a huge no-fly zone around his Estate/Palace/Centre of Government.

His own building is also most likely shielded, reinforced. There is a cortosis layer around his private appartments. The Imperial Guard is on duty 24/7.

No sir. A group of rag-tag terrorists couldnt just beeline at the Emperor to kill him. Because he also has the Force, which even furtgere protects him.

No Palpatine's arrogance makes him easier to kill. Watch the movies it is pretty clear that once the jedi fell he lost all self restraint because he was convinced no one could harm him.

Now then billions died when Alderaan was destroyed. That means even if one percent of the planet's population were off world you have tens of millions of furious people to deal with. If they have hope the Alliance can stop Palpatine or believe Tarkin was a rogue they have reason to show restraint but in the TC's scenario they have no reason to hold back.

Except that.. You know, it was already the case in the established EU continuity..

And it still required the Emperor leaving Coruscant for Endor to be vulnerable, despite these tens of millions of fanatics.

I already said this. That was a setting where they had hope that the Empire could be brought down by the Alliance. Take that hope away and they become much more desperate.

Old quote I first heard on B5. The most dangerous.force in the world is the lone gunman willing to trade their life for the target. How much more dangerous would thousands or millions of such beings be all sharing a target?

Another question is was it really impossible for the Alliance to take out Palpatine on Coruscant or were they just not willing to inflict the level of collateral damage taking him out would require?

No Palpatine's arrogance makes him easier to kill. Watch the movies it is pretty clear that once the jedi fell he lost all self restraint because he was convinced no one could harm him.

Yeah I don't buy this. Again you are failing to provide logic. You're just saying things are the case and then not backing it up. If Palpatines arrogance makes him easier to kill and he became such after the Jedi fell then he wouldn't have survived to see the RotJ. And even then the only time we see the Emperor is when he's guarded.

Now then billions died when Alderaan was destroyed. That means even if one percent of the planet's population were off world you have tens of millions of furious people to deal with. If they have hope the Alliance can stop Palpatine or believe Tarkin was a rogue they have reason to show restraint but in the TC's scenario they have no reason to hold back.

No supporting logic here either. Yes having hope will be enough for some, but not all. The destruction of Alderaan would have created people who had no hope and who had nothing to lose because everything they loved was gone. The Death Star continuing doesn't magically bestow upon these people the ability and the means to kill the Emperor, who all things considered, would have beefed up security measures.

You are still failing to link how not having hope and how lacking restraint magically makes it possible for them to kill the Emperor. Access to the Emperor doesn't just magically improve.

I already said this. That was a setting where they had hope that the Empire could be brought down by the Alliance. Take that hope away and they become much more desperate.

Desperation doesn't make you more effective. You need to illustrate how desperation overcomes Palpatines security measures. Or demonstrate that he was soooo arrogant that he would have laxed his security. Everything we've seen of Palpatine paints him as a man who was prepared and well guarded. He may be arrogant but that alone doesn't make it possible for desperate people to kill him. And I doubt the Emperor wouldn't have reasoned that destroying planets is going to increase the level of activity aimed at trying to kill him.

Another question is was it really impossible for the Alliance to take out Palpatine on Coruscant or were they just not willing to inflict the level of collateral damage taking him out would require?

Being as how the movies deemed that the only time Palpatine was vulnerable was when he went to Endor I'm pretty sure it was a situation where they couldn't do it. And even if they were willing to inflict collateral damage we haven't been shown anything that says more overall damage to the planet would net a better result. All it would require would be for the Emperor to go to one of his heavily fortified hiding places and it would be a done deal. For instance Baston was heavily fortified and had the advantage that no one outside of the Emperor and those with top level clearance knew where the planet was.

Also inflicting large amounts of collateral damage ends up doing the work of the Empire for them. They won't have to blow up more planets if they can clearly show that the Rebels are just terrorist bent on killing and destruction and that innocent life matters little to them.

The Alliance chose to wait until Palpatine. Now I have yet to see anything stating that they couldn't set the fleet with pilot droids and send it crashing into Coruscant. That would definitely kill Palpatine they just aren't willing to inflict the collateral damage involved so instead they waited until they could take him out without inflicting much if any collateral damage.

And both Legends and canon have made it crystal clear that with Palpatine gone the Empire is crippled by infighting.

The Alliance chose to wait until Palpatine. Now I have yet to see anything stating that they couldn't set the fleet with pilot droids and send it crashing into Coruscant. That would definitely kill Palpatine they just aren't willing to inflict the collateral damage involved so instead they waited until they could take him out without inflicting much if any collateral damage.

And both Legends and canon have made it crystal clear that with Palpatine gone the Empire is crippled by infighting.

Shield on the imperial palace, orbital defence batteries around Courascant. These are both things we've seen in star wars that we can assume were in place to prevent just this sort of attack. Also anything you're talking about happening after the Empire wins the battle of Yavin could and would have been attempted by 'hardliners' prior to it.

The Alliance chose to wait until Palpatine. Now I have yet to see anything stating that they couldn't set the fleet with pilot droids and send it crashing into Coruscant. That would definitely kill Palpatine they just aren't willing to inflict the collateral damage involved so instead they waited until they could take him out without inflicting much if any collateral damage.

And both Legends and canon have made it crystal clear that with Palpatine gone the Empire is crippled by infighting.

Where does this magical automated fleet come from?!?! You're not providing logic. So Alderaan gets blown up and then boom the survivors have this fleet that they can just use in a suicide run that may or may not work? This plan requires Coruscant to not be guarded and for the Rebel Alliance to want to through whats left of their fleet into a suicide run just because the people from Alderaan have nothing left to live for. Nevermind the fact that the Alderaanian diaspora wasn't the end all be all of the Rebels.

But yeah sure the rest of the Rebels decide to just chuck it all in on this suicide run that would likely be shot out of the sky on approach to Coruscant by the Imperial fleet that was assigned to guard the planet. Like where do they magically go and why aren't they enough to stop an automated fleet of ships? And how does this automated fleet know where it needs to hit on the planet to actually take out Palpatine? Because it would have to be a massively huge fleet to do enough damage to all of Coruscant to make sure you get him and he's not in some secure undeground bunker or something.

The Alliance chose to wait until Palpatine. Now I have yet to see anything stating that they couldn't set the fleet with pilot droids and send it crashing into Coruscant. That would definitely kill Palpatine they just aren't willing to inflict the collateral damage involved so instead they waited until they could take him out without inflicting much if any collateral damage.

And both Legends and canon have made it crystal clear that with Palpatine gone the Empire is crippled by infighting.

Sending the entire rebel fleet on automatic kamikazee strike?

That's.. one way of throwing all your resources away... Not sure it's the smartest tho. Any fleet that size coming from that far will be long detected before it hits the surface. There will be most likely some interception.

add the Golan defense stations that will shoot down many parts of that fleet. The defensive shields (because there are two) will also wipe out a lot of that fleet as well.

What will inevitably strike the ground will be.. not of the cataclysmic nature you are making the picture. And Palpatine will most likely have more than enough time to reach a deep protection bunker that has been shielded and heavily armored itself.

What makes you think the palace shields can block a suicide corvette, a bulk freighter, or something bigger? and it only takes one, maybe two ships getting through. Hell even a few shuttles or light freighters would probably be enough to breach the shield There are some things you can't effectively defend against. Nothing we have seen anywhere hints at Coruscant's shields being that strong. And remember we have canon proof in TCW that ships can jump out of or into gravity wells if the nav system is damaged. If system damage can do it how hard can it be to rig intentionally? Hell its not like they have to be that far from a planet to jump under normal conditions anyways. The Falcon jumped from near orbit in a pinch during ANH.

Right ...... sooo .... more magical Rebels. Moving along.

I do now think that in order for the Rebels to continue they'll need some sense of hope or the entire organization is likely to fall apart shortly after the Battle of Yavin.

Do remember I am discussing a scenario where the rebels have no hope, where they see themselves as having nothing to lose and the only question is will they take the enemy with them or not. This means they don't care what people think of them afterwards. Also remember that the rebel fleet was not at Yavin and thus survived the destruction of the planet.

What makes you think the palace shields can block a suicide corvette, a bulk freighter, or something bigger? and it only takes one, maybe two ships getting through. Hell even a few shuttles or light freighters would probably be enough to breach the shield There are some things you can't effectively defend against. Nothing we have seen anywhere hints at Coruscant's shields being that strong. And remember we have canon proof in TCW that ships can jump out of or into gravity wells if the nav system is damaged. If system damage can do it how hard can it be to rig intentionally? Hell its not like they have to be that far from a planet to jump under normal conditions anyways. The Falcon jumped from near orbit in a pinch during ANH.

A Star Destroyer can, on its own, devastate an entire planet's population and surface within a few hours.

And yet, Hoth's planetary shield could block all bombardment from a fleet of Destroyer. I am sure Coruscant's shields are stronger than the rebels'

Unless you have near-relativistic speed, there is no way a single ship crashing would devastate an entire planet. And Star Wars ships do.not.move at relativistic speed.

I'm not going to single out any post in particular, but there seems to be a position being pushed that I find, to put it most succinctly naïve. This is a fictional setting with a lot of blanks in it so there are many positions that, if we want them to be the case, we can reasonably justify. And if someone wished to portray things that way in their game it can certainly be done, even without necessarily contradicting canon. But that said, I'm not convinced they are end states that should be arrived at naturally.

For example, the kamikaze run against the emperor. The rebellion has military forces undoubtedly. Especially post-Yavin. We see this in the films. They also hold territory - it's a Rebellion, not a Resistance, and there's a significant difference between the two. But can they get those military forces to the heart of the Empire and would they if they could? To me, it's a little like Islamic State trying to send their forces to kill Barak Obama. They hold territory, they are proving very hard for the West to displace and they also are able to conduct ongoing trade against the West's wishes (you don't hear much about that in the Western media, but they do). There are parallels with the Rebel Alliance there, I think. As the US is at war with them (the US doesn't call it war because there are laws about war, but it's still war to any non-lawyer) why don't Islamic State launch that commit-everything all out military strike to kill Barak Obama? Well obviously, it would be exceedingly difficult to the focus their military strength against Washington D.C. in the first place. It would burn up vast amounts of precious resource. And finally it gains them next to nothing. They're trying to secure territory against foreign powers and their proxy regimes (e.g. Assad). These are their aims. What victory would it be to kill Barak Obama? Transplant this to the Rebellion and imagine the planning meeting:

"General - all those ships you have defending your home world, we want to relocate them."

"Relocate? But we're holding onto Blahblahtooine by the skin of our teeth. What could be more important?"

"We want to fly everything we have to Coruscant to kill the Emperor!"

"Wont Tarkin just carry on the war regardless?"

"Yes."

"And wont we lose 90% of the territory we control?"

"Yes."

"And wont the people all hate us for abandoning them and letting the Empire just walk in?"

"Yes."

"By the Force, why?"

"Well we think that the Empire might fall apart if Palpatine is killed."

"So this might happen and it might not, and if it does, one of the subsequent factions will take us over rather than Palpatine?"

"Correct."

"Are we at least certain that we can kill Palpatine."

"Well the palace on Coruscant is really, really fancy. Why wouldn't he be there when we hit it...?"

Unless the leadership of the Rebel Alliance have been metagaming and reading George Lucas's scripts, I really don't think it makes sense to do what is being proposed here.

I think all of this has stemming from this idea that once the Death Star is on the loose, people have "nothing left to lose".

https://youtu.be/Xg913f8Tjqc?t=49

There's always something to lose. The Death Star on the loose changes things big time. It's the gun on the table. It's the thing that changes the scenario from one where you can fight and have a chance to one where you don't think you do. Within a few years at most, opposition to the Empire goes from being a Rebellion to a Resistance. Palpatine held off dissolving the Senate for a long time. He needed the veneer of legitimacy it gave him, he needed the co-operation of the worlds that its bureaucracy provided (because it's an Empire ruling over many subjugated states, not a single autocratic one ruled directly). Only one he has the Death Star, does he feel secure to really start tightening his grip.

I'm not going to single out any post in particular, but there seems to be a position being pushed that I find, to put it most succinctly naïve. This is a fictional setting with a lot of blanks in it so there are many positions that, if we want them to be the case, we can reasonably justify. And if someone wished to portray things that way in their game it can certainly be done, even without necessarily contradicting canon. But that said, I'm not convinced they are end states that should be arrived at naturally.

For example, the kamikaze run against the emperor. The rebellion has military forces undoubtedly. Especially post-Yavin. We see this in the films. They also hold territory - it's a Rebellion, not a Resistance, and there's a significant difference between the two. But can they get those military forces to the heart of the Empire and would they if they could? To me, it's a little like Islamic State trying to send their forces to kill Barak Obama. They hold territory, they are proving very hard for the West to displace and they also are able to conduct ongoing trade against the West's wishes (you don't hear much about that in the Western media, but they do). There are parallels with the Rebel Alliance there, I think. As the US is at war with them (the US doesn't call it war because there are laws about war, but it's still war to any non-lawyer) why don't Islamic State launch that commit-everything all out military strike to kill Barak Obama? Well obviously, it would be exceedingly difficult to the focus their military strength against Washington D.C. in the first place. It would burn up vast amounts of precious resource. And finally it gains them next to nothing. They're trying to secure territory against foreign powers and their proxy regimes (e.g. Assad). These are their aims. What victory would it be to kill Barak Obama? Transplant this to the Rebellion and imagine the planning meeting:

"General - all those ships you have defending your home world, we want to relocate them."

"Relocate? But we're holding onto Blahblahtooine by the skin of our teeth. What could be more important?"

"We want to fly everything we have to Coruscant to kill the Emperor!"

"Wont Tarkin just carry on the war regardless?"

"Yes."

"And wont we lose 90% of the territory we control?"

"Yes."

"And wont the people all hate us for abandoning them and letting the Empire just walk in?"

"Yes."

"By the Force, why?"

"Well we think that the Empire might fall apart if Palpatine is killed."

"So this might happen and it might not, and if it does, one of the subsequent factions will take us over rather than Palpatine?"

"Correct."

"Are we at least certain that we can kill Palpatine."

"Well the palace on Coruscant is really, really fancy. Why wouldn't he be there when we hit it...?"

Unless the leadership of the Rebel Alliance have been metagaming and reading George Lucas's scripts, I really don't think it makes sense to do what is being proposed here.

I think all of this has stemming from this idea that once the Death Star is on the loose, people have "nothing left to lose".

https://youtu.be/Xg913f8Tjqc?t=49

There's always something to lose. The Death Star on the loose changes things big time. It's the gun on the table. It's the thing that changes the scenario from one where you can fight and have a chance to one where you don't think you do. Within a few years at most, opposition to the Empire goes from being a Rebellion to a Resistance. Palpatine held off dissolving the Senate for a long time. He needed the veneer of legitimacy it gave him, he needed the co-operation of the worlds that its bureaucracy provided (because it's an Empire ruling over many subjugated states, not a single autocratic one ruled directly). Only one he has the Death Star, does he feel secure to really start tightening his grip.

I am not 100% sure of what you are arguing. Are you saying the Death Star is the ultimate X factor that makes the Rebellion desperate enough to try a decapitation strike?

Okay. Let's say you are right. Let's say the Rebel do try their kamikazee attack to kill Palpatine.

You know what's the difference between the EU's Remnants and this new universe' Remnants?

The Death Star.

The Empire wouldn't shatter into a massive civil war of warlords. They would be forced to acknowledge the commander of the Death Star as their legitimate ruler. Be that Tarkin, Vader or Thrawn. Or Isard. Not even warlords owning Super Star Destroyers like Zsinj could even claim to be any kind of threat or on the same power level as the Death Star.

So.. okay. Maybe it would fracture a bit. Bit it wouldn't be leaderless.

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I am not 100% sure of what you are arguing. Are you saying the Death Star is the ultimate X factor that makes the Rebellion desperate enough to try a decapitation strike?

EDIT: I am completely and utterly stumped how you could read my post as arguing for the position you thought it was, tbh.

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I am not 100% sure of what you are arguing. Are you saying the Death Star is the ultimate X factor that makes the Rebellion desperate enough to try a decapitation strike?

I am not saying that. I think such a strike would be unrealistic and silly and never countenanced by the Rebellion.EDIT: I am completely and utterly stumped how you could read my post as arguing for the position you thought it was, tbh.

You.just need a little more imagination. This part:

he Death Star on the loose changes things big time. It's the gun on the table. It's the thing that changes the scenario from one where you can fight and have a chance to one where you don't think you do. Within a few years at most, opposition to the Empire goes from being a Rebellion to a Resistance.

Suggests that the Death Star creates a ticking clock where the Rebellion WILL lose all of its territory, inevitably. That it will lose everything it gained, and thus become a Resistance.

What makes you think the palace shields can block a suicide corvette, a bulk freighter, or something bigger? and it only takes one, maybe two ships getting through. Hell even a few shuttles or light freighters would probably be enough to breach the shield There are some things you can't effectively defend against. Nothing we have seen anywhere hints at Coruscant's shields being that strong. And remember we have canon proof in TCW that ships can jump out of or into gravity wells if the nav system is damaged. If system damage can do it how hard can it be to rig intentionally? Hell its not like they have to be that far from a planet to jump under normal conditions anyways. The Falcon jumped from near orbit in a pinch during ANH.

A Star Destroyer can, on its own, devastate an entire planet's population and surface within a few hours.

And yet, Hoth's planetary shield could block all bombardment from a fleet of Destroyer. I am sure Coruscant's shields are stronger than the rebels'

Unless you have near-relativistic speed, there is no way a single ship crashing would devastate an entire planet. And Star Wars ships do.not.move at relativistic speed.

A ship crashing in a scifi setting typically inflicts far more damage then its weapons can. Also many people see, to think that just because Legends claims the Empire had shields over the entire planet doesn't mean canon does. And if we are going by Legends then yes a ship can really hyperspace into a planet and the effects are literally world shattering. You wouldn't even need a mass attack just one ship with its gravity well safeties disabled.

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I am not 100% sure of what you are arguing. Are you saying the Death Star is the ultimate X factor that makes the Rebellion desperate enough to try a decapitation strike?

I am not saying that. I think such a strike would be unrealistic and silly and never countenanced by the Rebellion.EDIT: I am completely and utterly stumped how you could read my post as arguing for the position you thought it was, tbh.

You.just need a little more imagination. This part:

he Death Star on the loose changes things big time. It's the gun on the table. It's the thing that changes the scenario from one where you can fight and have a chance to one where you don't think you do. Within a few years at most, opposition to the Empire goes from being a Rebellion to a Resistance.

Suggests that the Death Star creates a ticking clock where the Rebellion WILL lose all of its territory, inevitably. That it will lose everything it gained, and thus become a Resistance.

Yes. That is what that part meant as well. Becoming a resistance does not mean that they will all run off a cliff like lemmings by flying en masse to Coruscant. You made that connection despite the first two thirds of my post being a long listing of why that would be a bad idea. What would actually be the expected behaviour is people going into hiding and transitioning into being an underground resistance, as I wrote.

What makes you think the palace shields can block a suicide corvette, a bulk freighter, or something bigger? and it only takes one, maybe two ships getting through. Hell even a few shuttles or light freighters would probably be enough to breach the shield There are some things you can't effectively defend against. Nothing we have seen anywhere hints at Coruscant's shields being that strong. And remember we have canon proof in TCW that ships can jump out of or into gravity wells if the nav system is damaged. If system damage can do it how hard can it be to rig intentionally? Hell its not like they have to be that far from a planet to jump under normal conditions anyways. The Falcon jumped from near orbit in a pinch during ANH.

A Star Destroyer can, on its own, devastate an entire planet's population and surface within a few hours.

And yet, Hoth's planetary shield could block all bombardment from a fleet of Destroyer. I am sure Coruscant's shields are stronger than the rebels'

Unless you have near-relativistic speed, there is no way a single ship crashing would devastate an entire planet. And Star Wars ships do.not.move at relativistic speed.

A ship crashing in a scifi setting typically inflicts far more damage then its weapons can. Also many people see, to think that just because Legends claims the Empire had shields over the entire planet doesn't mean canon does. And if we are going by Legends then yes a ship can really hyperspace into a planet and the effects are literally world shattering. You wouldn't even need a mass attack just one ship with its gravity well safeties disabled.

You just made that up entirely. From A to Z.

First, Unless you can prove, from a book or other material, that a ship explosion is more powerful than its weapons, don't bring it up.

Second, either you accept the EU or you dont. Your entire previous posts were relying on the EU's evidence of a Post-Palpatine empire, so try to stick with your own reasoning.

Third, oh really. The Gravity-limitation on hyperspace access is just a "safety measure", and not an in-universe physics rule? Please tell me where you got that, because the number of time the Empire uses Interdictor ship to entrap and destroy Rebel ships who could, apparently, " just bypass safeties" is staggering.

The only moment this rule has been broken is during the Correlian Trilogy, with the Bakuran fleet using experimental technology that nearly wrecked their ships.

Yes. That is what that part meant as well. Becoming a resistance does not mean that they will all run off a cliff like lemmings by flying en masse to Coruscant. You made that connection despite the first two thirds of my post being a long listing of why that would be a bad idea. What would actually be the expected behaviour is people going into hiding and transitioning into being an underground resistance, as I wrote.

Fair enough. Hence why i was puzzled, becayse the first part of your post was very well argumenting one way, and this latter part sort of threw me in confusion.

Well, you could argue that massive battlefleets require lots of fuel and maintenance, sort of ressources not being able to be provided by a mere resistance. You need lots of funding and infrastructure to keep these ships operational.

So i could see the Rebellion going for a Hail Mary before their ship starts to break down

Yes. That is what that part meant as well. Becoming a resistance does not mean that they will all run off a cliff like lemmings by flying en masse to Coruscant. You made that connection despite the first two thirds of my post being a long listing of why that would be a bad idea. What would actually be the expected behaviour is people going into hiding and transitioning into being an underground resistance, as I wrote.

Fair enough. Hence why i was puzzled, becayse the first part of your post was very well argumenting one way, and this latter part sort of threw me in confusion.

Well, you could argue that massive battlefleets require lots of fuel and maintenance, sort of ressources not being able to be provided by a mere resistance. You need lots of funding and infrastructure to keep these ships operational.

So i could see the Rebellion going for a Hail Mary before their ship starts to break down

True - very little is completely one way or the other. There would probably be a few die-hards going out in glory. But not many I should think, in an unwinnable scenario most will flee off into some untracked part of Space. There's a lot of it, after all. And ships take a lot of crew. Even if 10% of rebels want to go kamikaze on the Empire, a ship isn't going to do it because one in ten of the crew like the idea. So agreed, it could and would happen. But most of the rebels are going to be fighting for freedom of their planets and similar. If they're not achieving that with their deaths, then they'll more likely choose to live to fight another day. At least most will, imo.

True - very little is completely one way or the other. There would probably be a few die-hards going out in glory. But not many I should think, in an unwinnable scenario most will flee off into some untracked part of Space. There's a lot of it, after all. And ships take a lot of crew. Even if 10% of rebels want to go kamikaze on the Empire, a ship isn't going to do it because one in ten of the crew like the idea. So agreed, it could and would happen. But most of the rebels are going to be fighting for freedom of their planets and similar. If they're not achieving that with their deaths, then they'll more likely choose to live to fight another day. At least most will, imo.

Hmm.. Well, I could see the Resistance starting to try to sabotage the Death star itself by planting sleeper agents there.

I guess sabotaging the superlaser to backfire might be possible...? After all, we know the rebels had the plans. So there might be other weaknesses to exploit except for the exhaust port..

Eh. I have a better hypothesis: what if the Yavin Death Star was destroyed, but the Endor Death Star wasn't?

What if the Emperor had wiped out the Rebels at Endor, killed Vader and Skywalker both?

What makes you think the palace shields can block a suicide corvette, a bulk freighter, or something bigger? and it only takes one, maybe two ships getting through. Hell even a few shuttles or light freighters would probably be enough to breach the shield There are some things you can't effectively defend against. Nothing we have seen anywhere hints at Coruscant's shields being that strong. And remember we have canon proof in TCW that ships can jump out of or into gravity wells if the nav system is damaged. If system damage can do it how hard can it be to rig intentionally? Hell its not like they have to be that far from a planet to jump under normal conditions anyways. The Falcon jumped from near orbit in a pinch during ANH.

A Star Destroyer can, on its own, devastate an entire planet's population and surface within a few hours.

And yet, Hoth's planetary shield could block all bombardment from a fleet of Destroyer. I am sure Coruscant's shields are stronger than the rebels'

Unless you have near-relativistic speed, there is no way a single ship crashing would devastate an entire planet. And Star Wars ships do.not.move at relativistic speed.

A ship crashing in a scifi setting typically inflicts far more damage then its weapons can. Also many people see, to think that just because Legends claims the Empire had shields over the entire planet doesn't mean canon does. And if we are going by Legends then yes a ship can really hyperspace into a planet and the effects are literally world shattering. You wouldn't even need a mass attack just one ship with its gravity well safeties disabled.

You just made that up entirely. From A to Z.

First, Unless you can prove, from a book or other material, that a ship explosion is more powerful than its weapons, don't bring it up.

Second, either you accept the EU or you dont. Your entire previous posts were relying on the EU's evidence of a Post-Palpatine empire, so try to stick with your own reasoning.

Third, oh really. The Gravity-limitation on hyperspace access is just a "safety measure", and not an in-universe physics rule? Please tell me where you got that, because the number of time the Empire uses Interdictor ship to entrap and destroy Rebel ships who could, apparently, " just bypass safeties" is staggering.

The only moment this rule has been broken is during the Correlian Trilogy, with the Bakuran fleet using experimental technology that nearly wrecked their ships.

Actually Aftermath shows much the same kind of Imperial fragmentation happening in canon as happening in Legends. If anything it happened faster in canon.

If we go by canon we have seen ships jump to hyperspace inside a planet's atmosphere when their navsystems have been damaged. So there is no reason to believe that a ship can't be rigged to hyperspace into a planet.

In Legends we actually know what happens when a ship hyperspaces into a planet. The planet in question was "fractured to the core and doused in radiation." If that doesn't count as dead what does?

Where? When?

Name books or scenes

In canon you see a ship jump into hyperspace from within a planet's atmosphere, and thus well within its gravity well in The Clone Wars season one episode Jedi Crash

In Legends the planet Pammant was effectively destroyed when a Republic warship accidentally jumped to hyperspace and crashed into it. I'm wondering if something like this is how Anaxes was destroyed in canon but AFAIK that destruction has not been explained,

Navsystems and starship sensors come equipped with safety systems to prevent such accidents and that is Interdictors do. They cause the sensors to believe there is something nearby making it dangerous to enter or travel through hyperspace which triggers the safties to either drop the ship to realspace or prevent the jump.