Female players during tournaments?

By IG88E, in X-Wing

tfw your community is full of people making jokes about trans people.

Normally threads on this subject start to derail rather quickly about sexism, gender roles, and the like.

This thread... omg... what I have done...

Whoever had 12 posts in the "When will this thread derail" pool is the winner!

10 posts.

It was a tough choice. I can see it both ways.

I've been playing almost 2 years and have only encountered two female players.

I've seen some yes, and I'd gladly welcome more if they decided to take part.

Considering how these kinds of threads normally go. That will be my one and only post in this one... Normally threads on this subject start to derail rather quickly about sexism, gender roles, and the like.

Yep, Vanor called it. Psychic he is. He must have ESPN.

I have played against three female players, one was at the ATL Regional last year (she & her boyfriend both participated in the event, and he won it), one is local (she plays in some of the local tournaments when she can make it, also her boyfriend plays), one is semi-local (and is 9, I think, her dad plays, but she regularly does better than him), and the last female player I saw was at this year's ATL Regional this year (but I never had the opportunity to play against her). Some of the local players can talk their wives/girlfriends into an occasional game (like me), but the wives/girlfriends are not Tournament players.

We had two at our tournament this past weekend. Out of twenty players. My daughter also plays.

Whoever had 12 posts in the "When will this thread derail" pool is the winner!

10 posts.

It was a tough choice. I can see it both ways.

10 posts is the correct answer for the troll derailment.

To answer the question, there have been only a handful of women at most of the large events. If you end up at Nationals or Worlds, ask them what their feelings are about why few women play, and I'm sure you'll get better reasons than this forum.

There are two female players in my area, one that is a regular at events and another that shows up ~30-40% of the time. I treat them as I treat my male opponents.

Ideally it should be a 50/50 split between male and female but that's just not the case because of biology/society. I used to have a girlfriend that saw my Heroscape collection and thought I was a weirdo. For whatever reason most females aren't into war games/plastic miniatures.

*shrugs* We should all be friendly to female players when they do show up, but I see no need to specifically try to get more females into the hobby. It doesn't matter to me what gender my opponent is, so if the hobby is 95% male that doesn't bother me.

Maaaaybe the moderators should just go ahead and delete this thread? Pretty sure OP has her/his answer and online gaming forums aren't exactly known as bastions of tolerance/maturity/general human (and non-human!) decency....

Tolerant? Most of us. Maturity? You ARE kidding aren't you?

In all seriousness, I'd love to see more female players and I think that there is nothing about the game that is intrinsically gender specific. The simple answer that game stores (where most of us play) are mostly male-centered is a untrue. At our local store, Pathfinder and Magic pull quite a margin of female players, and if HerUniverse is anything to go by, females are into nerd-culture as much as males.

However, the truth is I've not seen many females actually "playing" X-Wing, and I feel that is a shame.

My wife plays, and though she has mostly been welcomed and accepted by other players- there have been a few games where her male competitors has talked down to her and have even gone as far as to slowly explain rules and strategy mid-game as if she had just started playing. She's better than me, and though these encounters are only 1 in 10, it still discolors the experience for her.

Vandor called it pretty early.

I thought we'd make page 2 at least.

Based on my scroll-bar we barely cleared the halfway point of page 1. Worse than I would have predicted, but Vanor's been here longer.

As for the OP, I've seen the occasional female at local tourneys. But not often.

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In all seriousness, I'd love to see more female players and I think that there is nothing about the game that is intrinsically gender specific. The simple answer that game stores (where most of us play) are mostly male-centered is a untrue. At our local store, Pathfinder and Magic pull quite a margin of female players, and if HerUniverse is anything to go by, females are into nerd-culture as much as males.

However, the truth is I've not seen many females actually "playing" X-Wing, and I feel that is a shame.

My wife plays, and though she has mostly been welcomed and accepted by other players- there have been a few games where her male competitors has talked down to her and have even gone as far as to slowly explain rules and strategy mid-game as if she had just started playing. She's better than me, and though these encounters are only 1 in 10, it still discolors the experience for her.

I defeated a female opponent once and a Yu-Gi-Oh player walked by and said, "Think of it this way, at least you didn't get beat by a girl."

My Fiancee used to play in tournaments with me all the time. We both competed in Worlds last year, and are going this year as well! I think she was the only female competing in last year's Worlds

X-wing doesn't have the hyper-sexual art of women that other male dominated games have. I would think that it would be a great entry point for women interested in miniatures.

Never seen one. I know a couple of Warhammer women, but they don't do tournaments. Most gamer women I know of are into role playing games, lighter euros, party games and occasionally Magic. Very rarely miniatures.

I just told my wife that she should get really good at X-wing and document her experience as a female in a male dominated hobby. She seemed interested in it from a sociological standpoint. Then I said you could answer the question, "Why don't more women participate in miniature gaming?" She immediately replied, "Because they have better things to do with their time and somebody has to watch the kids."

Honestly I bet in 10 years we'll see a lot more women playing miniature games.

Think about it, 20-30 years ago the amount of people playing miniature games was much smaller than it is today. It was also MUCH less acceptable for females to play such games. I have a strong feeling that those who played miniature games back then weren't teaching their daughters how to play and if they were, it would still be unacceptable among the daughter's peers which would steer her away.

Nowadays the people of my generation have kids and are all about getting them involved in their geeky hobbies, which are also more mainstream than they were. I play these games with my son and if I had a daughter I'd do the same. Once their generation grows up, I'm sure a lot more of them will be playing miniature games.

Honestly I bet in 10 years we'll see a lot more women playing miniature games.

Think about it, 20-30 years ago the amount of people playing miniature games was much smaller than it is today. It was also MUCH less acceptable for females to play such games. I have a strong feeling that those who played miniature games back then weren't teaching their daughters how to play and if they were, it would still be unacceptable among the daughter's peers which would steer her away.

Nowadays the people of my generation have kids and are all about getting them involved in their geeky hobbies, which are also more mainstream than they were. I play these games with my son and if I had a daughter I'd do the same. Once their generation grows up, I'm sure a lot more of them will be playing miniature games.

You can definitely say that D&D has seen a surge in all kinds of players in the last few years. Euro games (which I'm more experienced with) have literally exploded in the same time. Perhaps miniatures will just take some time and a lot of exposure.

Anyone know a professional football team that we can get on the record for saying they love playing X Wing between games? Worked for Catan!

X-wing doesn't have the hyper-sexual art of women that other male dominated games have. I would think that it would be a great entry point for women interested in miniatures.

That's pretty offensive to assume women don't like "hyper-sexual" art of women. :rolleyes:

Nerds!!!! :lol:

My 11 year old daughter plays in Tournys...even won a match against dual Firesprays (Kath-Fett IIRC) at Regionals.

(EDIT) She is the one who owns the original Monarch StarViper.

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Seen female players at a local tournament as well. Would be interesting to compare to other war games. Star Wars has some female fanbase, and has an advantage: Its prepainted, you do not have to spend weeks painting before you can play.

I just told my wife that she should get really good at X-wing and document her experience as a female in a male dominated hobby. She seemed interested in it from a sociological standpoint. Then I said you could answer the question, "Why don't more women participate in miniature gaming?" She immediately replied, "Because they have better things to do with their time and somebody has to watch the kids."

I have probably spent more time watching my kids than my wife has. Probably has more to do with work situation than anything else. I also wash dishes, do laundry, and vacuum. I actually enjoy vacuuming.