As someone who saw all the OT and Prequels in the theater (also all the Star Trek movies.), the worry in a his thread is silly.

These are movies people, which means everyone will have different opinions. Were the prequels as good as the OT? No, and we were silly for thinking they would be. We have turned the OT's into gods in our minds because of the influence it had on our childhood. Now that your a Jaded adult anything that tries to touch that Old God is going to seem awful some how because it won't touch you idea of how it should effect you.

Do you know what made the Prequels not great, Jar Jar and that actor who should not be named playing Anakin.

Do you know how to tell if the Movie is good? Look at the kid's response, that's what happened with the OT's.

This is true, prequel hate is basically nonexistent in anyone under the age of twenty and whether you want to admit it or not the prequels were the primary force that jumpstarted the EU.

I hate the prequels and I'm 23. I hate the special editions to the point where I got a Laserdisc player, the '93 LD box set, and the non-special edition of THX 1138. I saw the special editions when they were released in theaters with my dad and saw all of the prequels as they came out. I never grew up with the original movies when they were huge in the 70's and 80's, if anything the prequels I've seen more of when they were coming out. I feel I'm unbiased when I say this: the prequels are generic early 2000's CGI trash movies. The OT is something special.

Alien and Aliens are great movies. Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection are just trash movies.

Even though Episodes 1-3 weren't as good as the OT, mostly because Vader was spoiled, they were still hugely entertaining. Binks, needed as a Dupe to recommend emergency powers for Palpatine, was awful, granted. As long as Ep 7 is not as bad Aliens 3 or Resurrection we'll be alright. As far as the game goes it's strong enough to survive an E7 so bad that they cancel the remaining two sequels.

I'll disagree with you on Alien 3 and the first half of Resurrection. I thought part-Alien badass Ripley was a good twist on the character.

The Xenomorph is still the most terrifying movie monster ever.

Alien 3 directors cut is the best alien film out of all the films in the Alien, Predator, AvP, Prometheus saga. The characters are very real, the score is one of the most complimenting scores I have heard in a movie, the story itself was fantastic. I just wish the guy who wrote the story could have done everything he had wanted too, design and story wise. The King Alien would have been the most bad ass Alien ever, not the other King Aliens are not awesome themselves.

Resurrection had great character dynamics.

Oh the Aliens species name is "Intervacius-Raptus," although they are called a couple other things like "Infierno araña." I hate calling them Xenomorphs. In universe when characters are screaming about Xenomorphs coming after them, it bothers me because it no better than screaming about a bunch of Chordate or Animalia chasing after you.

I just wish they would stop using unused concept art for new materiel, their is a reason "WHY" GL didn't find the concept art acceptable and never used them in his films. The new X-Wing barely makes it into the cool category.

But Lucas himself used some of those unused OT ship and character designs in the prequels and the Clone Wars. Also keep in mind there were often practical reasons why the final versions look the way they do, many of the parts used were kitbashed from other models. If not for the material restrictions and limitation Lucas' team work working with a lot of the designs in the OT might have looked very different.

The domes at the tip of the a Y-wing's engines, those are made from a Legs pantyhose egg.

Star Destroyers were meant to have a bunch of antenna on them and TIE fighters were meant to be blue, but neither worked right against the blue screen.

Stormtrooper armor had to be designed so they would be cheap and easy to produce.

Avp and its sequel are not canon.

Even fox knows they stink.

But Lucas himself used some of those unused OT ship and character designs in the prequels and the Clone Wars. Also keep in mind there were often practical reasons why the final versions look the way they do, many of the parts used were kitbashed from other models. If not for the material restrictions and limitation Lucas' team work working with a lot of the designs in the OT might have looked very different.

The domes at the tip of the a Y-wing's engines, those are made from a Legs pantyhose egg.

Star Destroyers were meant to have a bunch of antenna on them and TIE fighters were meant to be blue, but neither worked right against the blue screen.

Stormtrooper armor had to be designed so they would be cheap and easy to produce.

What ships in the NT used to be rejected concept art?

Avp and its sequel are not canon.

Even fox knows they stink.

They still are canon. Every series have different rules for how their canon works. The only excepted material that is canon is the movies, comics, video and computer games, and novels. The new AvP: First hunt table top game is the first board game to be considered canon in the series, although the novel being written based off the story used in the board game over writes it. The new dark horse series is also canon, the writers for it were asked if the older material is still canon and they said it was but they wouldn't be visiting the story arcs used in the past. They also were asked if the AvP movies were still canon after Prometheus came out. They confirmed they were. This all validates what it says in the special features in both the Alien blu-ray set and in the AvP blu-ray two pack. In the AvP blu-ray two pack database it has information written about the Aliens that compliments what we saw in Prometheus. Its scary to think that facehuggers carry the same goo that was seen in Prometheus and on top of that said goo acts nearly identical to Royal Jelly.

Um, X-wing will still be around even if the new movie sucks.

Just saying. Some new toys might not sell but the game will live on.

Back on thread yet?

As someone who saw all the OT and Prequels in the theater (also all the Star Trek movies.), the worry in a his thread is silly.

These are movies people, which means everyone will have different opinions. Were the prequels as good as the OT? No, and we were silly for thinking they would be. We have turned the OT's into gods in our minds because of the influence it had on our childhood. Now that your a Jaded adult anything that tries to touch that Old God is going to seem awful some how because it won't touch you idea of how it should effect you.

Do you know what made the Prequels not great, Jar Jar and that actor who should not be named playing Anakin.

Do you know how to tell if the Movie is good? Look at the kid's response, that's what happened with the OT's.

This is true, prequel hate is basically nonexistent in anyone under the age of twenty and whether you want to admit it or not the prequels were the primary force that jumpstarted the EU.

Disagree completely. Heir to the Empire by Zahn kicked off the literary side of the EU (yes, there were books before that, but this one set the tone). That was in 1991.

A couple years later we had the LucasArts X-Wing/TIE Fighter games, which brought a whole bunch of new ships and fighters into the universe.

I remember being rather miffed that the prequels took a different angle on the Clone Wars than was hinted at in Zahn (who implied that the Clone Wars was Republic vs. out-of-control clone masters). Probably would have made better movies than Lucas did...

I second that opinion. The prequels jumpstarted the pre-republic eu. But the EU was alive and well long before episode I.

Again, this opinion is really only held by the old elitist generation and quite a large number of younger fans greatly enjoyed the prequels.

Back that up.

I was 13 when TPM came out. I thought it sucked then.

As someone who saw all the OT and Prequels in the theater (also all the Star Trek movies.), the worry in a his thread is silly.

These are movies people, which means everyone will have different opinions. Were the prequels as good as the OT? No, and we were silly for thinking they would be. We have turned the OT's into gods in our minds because of the influence it had on our childhood. Now that your a Jaded adult anything that tries to touch that Old God is going to seem awful some how because it won't touch you idea of how it should effect you.

Do you know what made the Prequels not great, Jar Jar and that actor who should not be named playing Anakin.

Do you know how to tell if the Movie is good? Look at the kid's response, that's what happened with the OT's.

This is true, prequel hate is basically nonexistent in anyone under the age of twenty and whether you want to admit it or not the prequels were the primary force that jumpstarted the EU.

Disagree completely. Heir to the Empire by Zahn kicked off the literary side of the EU (yes, there were books before that, but this one set the tone). That was in 1991.

A couple years later we had the LucasArts X-Wing/TIE Fighter games, which brought a whole bunch of new ships and fighters into the universe.

I remember being rather miffed that the prequels took a different angle on the Clone Wars than was hinted at in Zahn (who implied that the Clone Wars was Republic vs. out-of-control clone masters). Probably would have made better movies than Lucas did...

I second that opinion. The prequels jumpstarted the pre-republic eu. But the EU was alive and well long before episode I.

Again, this opinion is really only held by the old elitist generation and quite a large number of younger fans greatly enjoyed the prequels.

And quite a lot of people greatly enjoy Nickelback. Doesn't mean we shouldn't disregard their opinions and feed them to carnivorous zoo animals in the name of good taste.

I'm pretty sure Nickelback fans would taste awful, to lions and anything else.

My opinions are facts: the thread.

For me personaly if the new movies are terrible it wont affect how I feel aobut the x-wing miniatures game. If its like as bad as the crystal skull then oh well. It don't change that x-wing is my game of choice and the more ship models the better. Hell they could put out the prequal ships now and id be fine with it.

Edit: so long as we get that Xg-1 Star wing

I'm pretty sure Nickelback fans would taste awful, to lions and anything else.

Hmm, I say we keep them in 2-dimensional prisons sailing through space like in Superman.

This is one of those questions that is easy to address:

Do you like spaceships and/or do you like a well balanced miniatures game?

If yes then there is nothing that could ever hurt you here with FFG'S X-Wing the miniatures game.

There is nothing that Disney or JJ tardrams can do to the franchise that Lucas hasn't already done that could hurt us.

Star Wars fans are the worse fans in the universe.

Star Wars fans are the worse fans in the universe.

There speaks someone who's never had to deal with wrestling fans.

I just want to say John cena sucks!

Star Wars fans are the worse fans in the universe.

There speaks someone who's never had to deal with wrestling fans.

I just want to say John cena sucks!

I find it utterly impossible that Disney will fork over huge amounts of cash to buy Star Wars and make a bad movie. They will never kill the new sacred cow. The prequels were as bad as they were due to Lucas. He's not involved anymore. He's out of the picture. I think Lucas is about the only thing that could mess up a Star Wars movie. Did you hear how Disney is opening new theme park areas dedicated to Star Wars? How many more movies? Do you really think they will hurl so much money at Star Wars to let it fail? How much time and effort do you think Disney did to analyze the prequels to figure out where it went wrong?

Ep 7 would only have to be an "ok" movie to be a blockbuster and revive the franchise to new heights. It would just need to not suck to be a huge success.

Has Disney ever taken an existing success and destroyed it? Let's look at the Marvel franchise. Is it destroyed? Oh, no. It's making huge amounts of profits and everyone loves it. OK. What else is there? Well, the did make the "Pirates of the Caribbean" series. The 4th sucked, but the first three were good. I'm trying to think of something that took and ruined. I'm having a hard time with it.

Ep 7 is looking to be cool now however I don't think cause Disney bought SW it will be cool without question. I already written the problems with Rebels so here is my problem with Disney Marvel...

I only really care about the Punisher, Eddie Brock Venom (Anti-Venom,) Blade, Ghost Rider (Dan Ketch then Johny.) Marvel / Disney may not let Snipes play as Blade again despite how much he wants to play as that character again. They wont let Cage play as the Ghost Rider again, I would only find that acceptable if he is replaced by the Dan Ketch Ghost Rider, but they still acknowledge Cage was Johny Blaze in the past. Venom can only do better from here on out but the comic version has been *** with, JJ son is Venom now and is a Guardian of the Galaxy, Eddie is Ravage now and it out to kill Spider-Man just cause.

The most atrocious thing they have done is *** over Frank Castle both in the new Disney / Marvel films and the comics. He is forced to break character and be easily forced to be in the Thunder Bolts and deal with International issues, which by the time of 2005-7 he really didn't give a crap about those issues. Even worse is his adaption into the marvel / Disney movieverse. Thomas Jane wanted to come back and play the Punisher, he is the best one followed by Dolph. They got some guy to play as the Punisher who is always a scum bag in the movies or shows hes in, which ruins his characters just like what happened with Venom in Spidey 3. OH BUT THATS NOT THE BEST PART, he was retroactively placed into the Cap Merica 2 story, hes apparently the guy driving around in an orange moving van taking out enemies for Nick Fury and Cap Merica. Both the times he shows up in this film Winter Solider is in his sights yet he does nothing. So essentially they have made Frank Castle a cowered, in the last comic Frank was the Captain America, he had no issues punching Bucky in the face, yet here hes to afraid to even use a Sniper Rifle, he was one of the best snipers in the SEALs & Marines after all, hell hew dint even need a precision rifle, he could have used any weapons hes known for using, hell he could have just plowed through the winter solider with his freaking orange moving van!!!!!!!

I at least got my Thomas Jane Punisher trilogy to hold me over, the Dolph version, and even the Stevens and anime versions that just came out. The live action Marvel Disney one is a freaking failure.

So, what you are saying is that you are worried how Ep 7 is going to be under Disney based on a kid's cartoon in the Star Wars universe and how the Disney/Marvel franchise has handled your favorite fringe character?

Star Wars: Rebels is a kid's cartoon that I've seen and I personally believe is fine for what it is. To base how you think Ep 7 is going to be based on how a Star Wars cartoon geared for kids is silly.

As for the Disney/Marvel movies....besides any side beef with how they handled any side characters, do you think they have made bad movies?

Also, Spiderman movies aren't Disney/Marvel.

Star Wars fans are the worse fans in the universe.

There speaks someone who's never had to deal with wrestling fans.

I'd always had to fight channels with them as it aired the same time as BattleBots

I couldn't figure why people will watch fake stuff with no special effects or anything to put it in a fantasy world when they could watch real battles with droids and robots.

As someone who saw all the OT and Prequels in the theater (also all the Star Trek movies.), the worry in a his thread is silly.

These are movies people, which means everyone will have different opinions. Were the prequels as good as the OT? No, and we were silly for thinking they would be. We have turned the OT's into gods in our minds because of the influence it had on our childhood. Now that your a Jaded adult anything that tries to touch that Old God is going to seem awful some how because it won't touch you idea of how it should effect you.

Do you know what made the Prequels not great, Jar Jar and that actor who should not be named playing Anakin.

Do you know how to tell if the Movie is good? Look at the kid's response, that's what happened with the OT's.

and whether you want to admit it or not the prequels were the primary force that jumpstarted the EU.

Thrawn Trilogy

Tales of the Bounty Hunter

Tales of Mos Eisley

Rogue Squadron(novels and game series)

X-Wing/Tie Fighter

WotC D6 RPG

Dark Forces

Shadows of the Empire(novel and N64 game)

Along with dozens of games, books, and comics that were all incredibly popular when Episode 1 was still a pipedream. Kick rocks, kid. Stay off my lawn.

I do not believe the quality of the film will have an effect on the sales of the X-Wing Miniatures game. I do believe, however, that Star Wars: Battlefront may have an effect. it incorporates elements from both Imperial Assault (the planetside battles between infantry) and X-Wing Miniatures (the aerial combat). The game is part of a bigger investment into a gaming system, which cannot be said for the two tabletop games. Additionally, the game will be accessible for the mainstream audience. A person will need only the console or the PC and eye-hand coordination, as opposed to what is needed for the two tabletop games. I could learn Star Wars: Battlefront in less than a day, something I cannot say for X-Wing Miniatures after a month of playing the game. I believe, for now, the greatest strength the two tabletop games have is the diversity of ships and campaigns/missions. However, to enjoy fully either or both, a player needs to be conversant with the rules of the games. This is a difficult task, as even FFG, at times, has demonstrated it is not fully conversant with their own rules. EA is expecting SW:B will sell nine to ten million units before March 31, 2016. However, for myself, when it comes to triple AAA games, I will wait to see if EA has delivered a polished product or not. The company has a history of delivering products that failed on launch day.

I want to pre-order battlefront but then I keep reminding myself of bf4's launch and the fact it took a year to fix and can't bring myself to do it, waiting on reviews.

I want to pre-order battlefront but then I keep reminding myself of bf4's launch and the fact it took a year to fix and can't bring myself to do it, waiting on reviews.

I want to pre-order battlefront but then I keep reminding myself of bf4's launch and the fact it took a year to fix and can't bring myself to do it, waiting on reviews.

Do people still pre-order? It's basically the same thing as a kickstarter, you pay for something because you like it and there's a better than 50/50 chance that the devs do something you don't like and you regret it.

If I know for sure a games going to be good then yes I do I want to play it asap, I preordered elite and never regretted it.