Lets face it. X-wing miniatures is a game based upon the Star Wars Franchise, as Qui Gon Jin said they are symbiotically linked, so what ever happens to star wars will happen to X-wing as well. So we all know that the future of Star Wars is Episode 7 (and the inevitable 2 more episodes to follow), so the future of X-wing Miniatures is (and sources seem to confirm) is Episode 7.

That being said, if hypothetically speaking Episode 7 becomes just as awful as the prequel trilogy. How do you think that will effect FFG's product and licenses with X-wing miniatures? Will people refuse to buy anything post Wave 8 and just stick to the classic set (like many Warhammer Fantasy players still playing 9th edition fantasy)? Will players sell their collection and quit the game all together?

What would your thought be on this? Now again this is only hypothetically speaking if the upcoming movie was as terrible as episode 1-3. Not saying that those upcoming movies will be good or bad, so leave those posts in another thread (one in the off-topic forum).

I believe X-wing is safe. Ep 7 would really have to be a misunderstanding of the level of lets say "Starship Troopers 2" to influence the sales.

Is it really a question of "if"?

That said, X-Wing was released prior to the Episode 7 announcement, if a new component fails it shouldn't have a significant retroactive effect.

I mean, X-Wing's still selling on deep-EU stuff, so if the Legends thing didn't kill it I don't think a stillborn TFA would.

It won't help, but it won't crater the game either.

If FFG made prequel starter and expansions I'd get the ships I liked, ignore the ones I didn't like, and not even think about the movies.

Same is true for the sequels.

I'm sure I'm not alone in that. Or I am and there's about to be that awkward moment as everyone wonders whether or not they should tell me I'm odd.

Be gentle

If FFG made prequel starter and expansions I'd get the ships I liked, ignore the ones I didn't like, and not even think about the movies.

Same is true for the sequels.

I'm sure I'm not alone in that. Or I am and there's about to be that awkward moment as everyone wonders whether or not they should tell me I'm odd.

Be gentle

No, you're pretty much right.

Regardless of how much I may dislike various prequel characters, the ship designs are still top-notch.

Can't say the same for Episode 7, which is what worries me. It's like they stopped having industrial-design people on the art team.

I don't think it would affect the game. I personally think the films are in safe hands. I know a lot of people are not big fans of episodes 1-3 but if FFG had released ships from that era all those haters would have still bought the ships. I know people will be saying that they wouldn't have bought them but that's because FFG haven't made them. Put a nice new ship out with some cool upgrades and we all get engrossed in it for 6 months before its release. Fact.

Honestly I wish FFG /would/ do prequel ships, even if they were considered a separate game (which would make it easier to balance anyway).

There's PLENTY of ships, I count probably 4 full 4-ship waves and an Aces pack or two.

Nah it will be fine... stop makin troubles on the late night shift.

Worrying in da morning and suches!

I don't think it would hurt the game at all. The majority of players are adults who grew up with the 'classic' trilogy in the 70s and 80s. They would continue to play and buy stuff regardless of what they thought of the movie.

Look at GW's hobbit game the movies were a let down so there was no interest like there was for lotr and it failed horribly.

A bad episode vii won't affect original x-wing but it'll impact stuff based on the new movies.

Is it really a question of "if"?

Yes.

Is it really a question of "if"?

Yes.

"Worst movie ever! I will only see it three more times today and buy two of every ship expansion!"

Seriously though, TFA has Han Solo, Chewy, Leia and Luke. It can not possibly suck any harder than Jar-Jar Binks did. I'm prepared to eat crow if it does.

Is it really a question of "if"?

Yes.

I'm reserving my "if" for Episode 8, Abrams is not to be trusted but I can certainly give Rian Johnson the benefit of the doubt after The Brothers Bloom.

You're a reasonable guy but I wholly disagree. JJ can be trusted with Star Wars. He's a huge fan of it, and with how he handled Star Trek, I'm sure he can pull off a great Star Wars movie. After all, how do you think he got the part?

Fans are often the people who do the worst with things they like. I mean, have you ever taken a glance at fanfiction.net?

I'll say that Star Trek was utterly awful (although that was on the writers primarily, and we have Kasdan here), but I've been watching random Abrams things recently to see if he's any good outside of franchises he doesn't care for, and the results are iffy.

Look at GW's hobbit game the movies were a let down so there was no interest like there was for lotr and it failed horribly.

A bad episode vii won't affect original x-wing but it'll impact stuff based on the new movies.

Great point to bring up. We have a similar case that has happened recently.

However it also depends on what direction FFG takes X-wing. Is there going to be type 1 (1st edition core through wave 7 or 8) based upon only the Original Trilogy and some of the side stories on earlier star wars merchandise that is separate from type two which is all the new stuff from rebels to episode 7 and beyond? Or will it remain one large game.

To be honest I can see some real complications here with the movie affecting the products. Sure the Star Wars franchise is the games greatest strength but it is also the games greatest stumbling block.

"Worst movie ever! I will only see it three more times today and buy two of every ship expansion!"

Seriously though, TFA has Han Solo, Chewy, Leia and Luke. It can not possibly suck any harder than Jar-Jar Binks did. I'm prepared to eat crow if it does.

Yeah we had faith in episode 1 before we went to see it look how that turned out.

Jarjar has never made a great film, he hasn't made a good film he's made average and bad films there is no reason to be confident it'll be any good.

Look at GW's hobbit game the movies were a let down so there was no interest like there was for lotr and it failed horribly.

A bad episode vii won't affect original x-wing but it'll impact stuff based on the new movies.

Great point to bring up. We have a similar case that has happened recently.

However it also depends on what direction FFG takes X-wing. Is there going to be type 1 (1st edition core through wave 7 or 8) based upon only the Original Trilogy and some of the side stories on earlier star wars merchandise that is separate from type two which is all the new stuff from rebels to episode 7 and beyond? Or will it remain one large game.

To be honest I can see some real complications here with the movie affecting the products. Sure the Star Wars franchise is the games greatest strength but it is also the games greatest stumbling block.

"There is no conflict!"

"Worst movie ever! I will only see it three more times today and buy two of every ship expansion!"

Seriously though, TFA has Han Solo, Chewy, Leia and Luke. It can not possibly suck any harder than Jar-Jar Binks did. I'm prepared to eat crow if it does.

Yeah we had faith in episode 1 before we went to see it look how that turned out.

Jarjar has never made a great film, he hasn't made a good film he's made average and bad films there is no reason to be confident it'll be any good.

You're telling me that as a standalone film, Star Trek '09 wasn't great. You're seriously telling me that. (And discounting that it's an alternate reality altered entirely by the appearance of The Narada.)

You're really trying to assert that. Into Darkness I'll give you. '09? Hell no. That was fantastic.

"Worst movie ever! I will only see it three more times today and buy two of every ship expansion!"

Seriously though, TFA has Han Solo, Chewy, Leia and Luke. It can not possibly suck any harder than Jar-Jar Binks did. I'm prepared to eat crow if it does.

Yeah we had faith in episode 1 before we went to see it look how that turned out.

Jarjar has never made a great film, he hasn't made a good film he's made average and bad films there is no reason to be confident it'll be any good.

You're telling me that as a standalone film, Star Trek '09 wasn't great. You're seriously telling me that. (And discounting that it's an alternate reality altered entirely by the appearance of The Narada.)

You're really trying to assert that. Into Darkness I'll give you. '09? Hell no. That was fantastic.

Brah why you arguing with these critters?

We know the deal... and they don't.

let these snarglers just be miserable, while we dance and jump and skip a merry trot into the glorious future of FANTASY FLIGHT GAMES STAR WARS TOYS!

Dat!

The sky will fall. The dead will begin to roam the earth. There will be plague and environmental disasters. EVERYONE stock up on water and food while you can! My bunker should be ready by Sep 4th

In all seriousness though, like Tipperary said, if EU didn't kill the sales, the new episode failing, even drastically failing, certainly won't.

Both of his trek films were abominations that disrespected star trek and its core principles, and I have gone into great depth about how many fails that film makes on these forums.

But you like the prequels so clearly have no ability to tell a good film from a bad one.

"Worst movie ever! I will only see it three more times today and buy two of every ship expansion!"

Seriously though, TFA has Han Solo, Chewy, Leia and Luke. It can not possibly suck any harder than Jar-Jar Binks did. I'm prepared to eat crow if it does.

Yeah we had faith in episode 1 before we went to see it look how that turned out.

Jarjar has never made a great film, he hasn't made a good film he's made average and bad films there is no reason to be confident it'll be any good.

You're telling me that as a standalone film, Star Trek '09 wasn't great. You're seriously telling me that. (And discounting that it's an alternate reality altered entirely by the appearance of The Narada.)

You're really trying to assert that. Into Darkness I'll give you. '09? Hell no. That was fantastic.

Depends on your perspective, but for many Star Trek Fans they hate it but also many liked it. I'm on the opinion that fits with this video.

so yup over-sensationalized plot that makes no sense what so ever and people call it fantastic. I call it forgettable.

but DON'T get me started on that STUPID XFINITY comercial. I never wanted to watch the entire crew of the Enterprise die so badly than after watching THIS commercial.

After watching this it was so bad that I played FTL 50 times just to name the ship Enterprise the crew Kirk, Spock, Scotty, Chekov only to AIR LOCK them (or burn them with a bomb) and get the ship blown up.

Hateful old men living in the 80's... nobody cares what you think anymore.