The new pilots aren't Rebels, so won't have any impact on the E Wing at all.
Um actually they are...
Are they? Because on the box they're referred to as 'Resistance' and their icon is different to the Rebel one.
The E-wing is DEAD!!!!!
The new pilots aren't Rebels, so won't have any impact on the E Wing at all.
Um actually they are...
Are they? Because on the box they're referred to as 'Resistance' and their icon is different to the Rebel one.
actually, their icon is exactly the same
they just inverted the colors
the fact that the card art is also exactly the same to their rebel counterparts does not inspire any confidence in the fact that the "resistance" is anything other than an "in name only" type of deal
Edited by ficklegreendice"It's exactly the same! Except different!"
You know what it's called when a faction has a different icon, and a different name?
A different faction.
"It's exactly the same! Except different!"
You know what it's called when a faction has a different icon, and a different name?
A different faction.
You're way out on a limb here.
If it's the same logo it makes sense that they are a sub-faction.
They will probably have effects that specify they help other resistance pilots etc but they can play on the same side if you want.
What if... The EU ships turn out to all be terrible, so they just will never see any play, and that's FFG's plan to move the EU out of the game and towards Disney's new stuff...? It's... Genius....
But seriously, as was said in the first reply, the E-wing was dead the first time I tried making a decent list with the generics in squad builder. This new X-wing doesn't kill it anymore then the more cost efficient B-wing and Y-wing already had.
With TLT being a thing now, what are peoples thoughts on a Sensor Jammer/Shield Regen Ewing in the new meta?
The same thought everytime someone brings up an E-wing build to me.
"Hmm... Sounds interesting... Now if it could only cost 3 less points...."
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I just can't abide the look of the thing.
The problem with the E-Wing aesthetically isn't that it is ugly (which it is) but that it could have so easily been cool looking. Bring the engines up against the fuselage, move or get rid of the gun over the canopy, maybe add a dorsal fin and it is a really great looking ship.
I think it is the haphazard way that cool components are just slapped together that rubs people the wrong way with it.
you could but the you could run into some Mk.II licensing issues 
"It's exactly the same! Except different!"
You know what it's called when a faction has a different icon, and a different name?
A different faction.
Basically, the three factions of X-Wing will be the Baddies, the Goodies and the Filthy Neutrals.
Had to do this first . Use the spoiler tags plz
A lot depends on dial, and what the new upgrade does. That being said...
Durability: The E-wing has one less hull, but one more Green die and an Evade action. Advantage E-wing, although individual games may see the green dice fail to perform.
Price: 3 points cheaper for the generics and the second generic has an EPT. Blue Ace is 5(!) points cheaper than Etahn but lacks an EPT (Although he sort of has stress-less daredevil built in. Sort of, since Daredevil is a second manuver, so it behaves differently than a modified boost action. But, no stress token). Poe is 4 points cheaper than Corran, but their abilities are very different. Poe is a Tie Fighter's worst nightmare, while Corran loves to munch on big ships.
Offense: Comparable, but E-wings have FCS as an option. Depends on what the new upgrade does.
True but the New X-wings have natural boost. Now back in the days of Wave 2 all a natural boost was a open mod slot and 4 points you could spend on other things. Now this means Autothrusters. So think about it, a tougher X-wing NOW WITH AUTOTHRUSTERS!!!!!
Saying the new core will not be Rebels and Imperials is soooooo stupid. (I'm sorry, I had to get that off my chest)
There have been pilot card leaks. The T-70's symbol looks a bit off Rebel but still the same, the TIE/fo's faction symbol is completely different. It's this silver hexagon thing.
However, the dial backs and card colours look like perfect matches for Rebel and Imperial.
It's a little murky.
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Wasn't it already dead? I mean, besides the Elites?
Calm yourself, an Ace pack was hinted at...
We will see the "ace pack" on September 4th. It won't help the E-wings it will replace them.
I'm pretty sure there will be no Ace pack come sep 4th. Only the Core and 2 blister expansions.
Still no way to be sure about this. Could also be a Falcon and the new shuttle. Or Falcon+X and Shuttle+(Cog-?)TIE.
(...)I just can't abide the look of the thing. (Oddly, I find the design to remind me of Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh. (Note that I have nothing against Eeyore, poor guy. (Now I suddenly want one so I can paint it to look like Eeyore!)))
(...)
Really looking forward to a picture of an Eeyore ship 
Well beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I just can't abide the look of the thing.
The problem with the E-Wing aesthetically isn't that it is ugly (which it is) but that it could have so easily been cool looking. Bring the engines up against the fuselage, move or get rid of the gun over the canopy, maybe add a dorsal fin and it is a really great looking ship.
I think it is the haphazard way that cool components are just slapped together that rubs people the wrong way with it.
I really like the look of the E-wing.
I have no problems with the third gun up top, it tighten's up the weapon spread and as for the engines having them as far from the centre line as possible makes for a far more maneuverable spacecraft.
Mechanically the E-wing is a far more realistic design than the X .
But hay each to their own aye
This is the result of off-vector thrust.
Basically, the Q-Wing from that Robot Chicken episode.
If you want, you can say "because handwavium physics" and ignore it. But to me it's a glaring eyesore.
While I agree that the vanilla E Wing pilots are bland and over priced. The ship gets a lot better once you add a EPT.
People rave over Soontir with 3 agility, a stealth device and evade.
You can make an E wing with PTL, Droid to give +1 agility, FCS and stealth device.
That give you 5 agility + evade.
Sure it costs more, but then it is also more durable with shields and has better fire power.
A chardan refit mod would help a bit.
Costs more and does not have the action economy baron fel has which is why you never see it used.
E-Wings and Tie Defenders are all 2 points too expensive.
If the standard point total for tournaments was changed to 120 points though, the slight over cost would not be an issue.
And then we could have 10 Tie swarms too!
If the point limit were bumped to 120 you'd just take 20 points more of the more efficient stuff and E-wings, Defenders, etc. would still stay on the shelves.
I just realized E'tahn leading a strike squad against an Epic ship would be insane.
Yes, yes it is. Flew him and some Z's in an epic match. It worked well together.
E'athn works great even just @ 100
the combination of ptl + sensors + r2-d2 makes for an incredible little ship even at its price
"It's exactly the same! Except different!"
You know what it's called when a faction has a different icon, and a different name?
A different faction.
So Darth Vader can't take the X/1 title because he already flies an X/1?
"It's exactly the same! Except different!"
You know what it's called when a faction has a different icon, and a different name?
A different faction.
So Darth Vader can't take the X/1 title because he already flies an X/1?
"It's exactly the same! Except different!"
You know what it's called when a faction has a different icon, and a different name?
A different faction.
So Darth Vader can't take the X/1 title because he already flies an X/1?
We got another one, ready the feathers and boil that tar!
He came with a TIE Advanced dial.
"It's exactly the same! Except different!"
You know what it's called when a faction has a different icon, and a different name?
A different faction.
So Darth Vader can't take the X/1 title because he already flies an X/1?
And the T-70 comes with the same colour base insert, and same back of dial colour.
"It's exactly the same! Except different!"
You know what it's called when a faction has a different icon, and a different name?
A different faction.
So Darth Vader can't take the X/1 title because he already flies an X/1?
We got another one, ready the feathers and boil that tar!
I'm sorry, next time I'll say it in a more obviously sarcastic tone so you won't misunderstand me.
Saying the new core will not be Rebels and Imperials is soooooo stupid. (I'm sorry, I had to get that off my chest)
Not when you consider that the latest leaked images show an entirely different faction emblem on the First Order pilot cards.
Could be fake of course - guess we'll find out in 11 days
the idea of new exclusive factions (i.e, new factions in anything other than name only) is far too wildly speculative and would be a horrible business practice considering
a.) no support for two new factions against others with years of support (scum's newer, but piggybacks on the Ys/Zs/Sprays/Hwks etc)
b.) the dials and cards indicate the that ships are rebel and imperial (i.t.o gameplay)
c.) even fluffnuts who would stress the difference in these incredibly similar factions would go nuts at having their t-70 + han solo/chewie team ups be illegal
The t-70s are coming, and they'll be competing directly with the E-wing, which is a ship they are very similar to (elite X-wing, overpriced for jousting). Until we know what the new upgrade slot does, there's no telling how exactly they'll factor into the faction. Currently, the combination of evade action + system slot makes the character Es incredibly effective against elite ships while Poe's ability + thrusters makes him more effective against lots of attacks (ala swarms or TLT shots). You could easily put corran and Poe (his ability is wonderful with r5-p9, so you don't even have to scrap corran's r2-d2) in the same list
"It's exactly the same! Except different!"
You know what it's called when a faction has a different icon, and a different name?
A different faction.
So Darth Vader can't take the X/1 title because he already flies an X/1?
neither here nor there
the Tie Advance/x1 Vader thing was a load of bull from the beginning because the title specifies Tie Advance Only
Vader flies a Tie Advance x1. Vader is unique, the ship he's flying is not (so there's nothing preventing you from flying a Tie Advance x1 with the TIE/x1 title; even if the ship and the title actually had the same name which they don't).
similarly, if we find a card in the new set that says X-wing only, you can bet both the T-65 and T-70s can take it. If it says T-70 X-wing only, then only the T-70s can take it.