I hope the 4 stores in my area that want this. . . Hopefully a 4 get it. Then I can get 3 chances to get 1 of each wave 2 shios
Sad this is the current state of affairs..
This guy totally sent me his PayPal, and his street address in a PM. Lol.
Send him your 2c.
Steve is like the Dynamite in Paper, Rock, Scissors when it comes to minis games. :-)
D'aww- Which Matt are you?? So many familiar faces around here, it's great!
GSDs are brutal little bastards that punish your mistakes hard
This can make playing against then frustrating at first. Really, though, they're not that amazing once you get used to them. Their Phenomenal punch is tempered by the shortest range in the game.
This. I was sort of sweeping over this thread until the end, but this brought me up short. Before the GSD started to gain purchase here, learning the game was a slow but fun affair. Since now almost every list features two GSD + Demolisher, your mistakes get punished so fast it makes it harder to learn from them. Some of the newbies in my area were frightened off entirely or decided to play heavily into Imperial themselves (I'm basically the token Rebel here).
Steve is like the Dynamite in Paper, Rock, Scissors when it comes to minis games. :-)
D'aww- Which Matt are you?? So many familiar faces around here, it's great!
Many moons ago...from the Flames of War days at Huzzah. I'm one of Scott's friends.
The real problem of the wave 1 is that imp fighters are too easily countered by Tycho and an A-wing or two, so they get pushed into ship heavy builds. I have personally performed the best at 2 vsd's and Demolisher with a barebones fighter escort or the 4 ship builds.
Rebel fighters are better, but they still get outclassed by a pod of whales.
To the OP's point, I would argue against it. Rebels can easily put together a list that will wreck an imp 4 ship build, it just has 4+ ships and no Nebulon B's.
Nazgul have you ever played against 3 whales or 2 whales and two corvettes?
That would mess up a four ship list easy.
Fighters will get a boost from Intel. Then you have Rhymerball's that still can attack ships and such.
Awesome Matt! You guys doin any Armayduh at Huzzah?
you don't need 4 ships to wreck GSDs and squadrons already do a marvelous job of it (Bs especially)
Fatties are simply the easiest ship to learn the game with, because they are long range (red dice), have the most coverage out of their dominant arc relative to any other ship (2 wide sides), are maneuverable enough to be able to abuse said coverage, and are quite chunky. With EA especially, they mince GSDs (just don't let GSDs mince them back)
Nebs, by contrast, are the exact opposite in every way except the long range dice (they're also slightly more maneuverable than fatties, but boy howdy that doesn't make the spindly-sides any easier to ignore)
Edited by ficklegreendiceAwesome Matt! You guys doin any Armayduh at Huzzah?
I think they do. I don't really get out to Huzzah anymore though.
Op says Imperials are broken, and like blood in water everyone jumps his ****....OK Darth Lupine plays the same list at 400 points wins every match....Darth Lupine plays same list minus a VSD and sprinkle a little bit of squadrons...... Still wins every game. So tell me you don't think Gladiators with ACM's , Screed Demolisher ,engine tech is a bit over the top?
Ok Screed makes sure you get a crit off . the concussion missiles damage adjacent shields... It's OK OP I and many others know what you mean and I like you brought this up and trust me every jumped my **** too because In spite of glaring evidence of the **** thing those who speak out against the ****** up ridiculous combo of the Gladiator will always be shunned in this community every one will call you an idiot and it doesn't matter if you're a competent player every one on here will cast you out like a leper if you say anything negative about their precious Gladiator.
Seriously the **** thing is silly. What would impress me if Imperial players are so **** good at this game then leave your precious Gladiators at home and play with VSD's and squadrons. And hell us rebel players will leave our Assault Frigates at home... Let's see how the game goes then.... Let's see if your win streak changes without the Gladiator? Oh wait someone will cry oh but that's not fair Rebels have three capitals in wave one....right and the only somewhat decent and Armored ship we have is an Assault Frigate.. While the other two rebel ships are fast but yet still fragile..... "Oh but you deployment is ****** up and your not playing right" ***** please...like I said put your money were your mouth is and drop the GSD out of your games and see if things change for you.
bet alot of em are too smug to drop it... That GSD ain't nothing but a crutch for you imps.
Edited by Grave13Look, I know you are still mad at me but I have faced the very same lists and have crushed them. If you want to take them out you trap a Gladiator at a time. They go down fast then. Once one goes down you kill the next. Sure you lose a ship, sure it is HARD! It is nerve racking, but it is effective. It takes practice and nerves of steel.
It is about tactics. You let the GSD's comes in, you let them get close. If you are going slow enough or not having over lapping fields of fire on where the GSD will be (and trust me you can tell where they will be) then is it the GSD users fault?
Look, I know you are still mad at me but I have faced the very same lists and have crushed them. If you want to take them out you trap a Gladiator at a time. They go down fast then. Once one goes down you kill the next. Sure you lose a ship, sure it is HARD! It is nerve racking, but it is effective. It takes practice and nerves of steel.
you won't crush Darth Lupine, and I'm not mad at you , because you were rude and you know it...I don't **** with you! Got a billion other things I'd rather be doing than worry about you.
Yup, mad. A guy apologizes, tries and makes amends and is the bad guy. Thus is life.
I never said I could crush him
Rebels don't have the options to "crush". Now beat is a plausible option. Sure it may only occur one in three times but it is a possibility.
It is about tactics. You let the GSD's comes in, you let them get close. If you are going slow enough or not having over lapping fields of fire on where the GSD will be (and trust me you can tell where they will be) then is it the GSD users fault?
The more difficult question then is, can you 10-0 Gladiator-heavy lists? Losing a ship brings you closer to that 220 edge. My Imp opponent is not too big on more than one Gladiator, so he just brings Demolisher ACM to the table, I think I have learned how to deal with that. I don't have a lot of experience with multiple GSDs (probably will be getting during the Armada tournament gulp).
Edited by chilliganIt is about tactics. You let the GSD's comes in, you let them get close. If you are going slow enough or not having over lapping fields of fire on where the GSD will be (and trust me you can tell where they will be) then is it the GSD users fault?
The more difficult question then is, can you 10-0 Gladiator-heavy lists? Losing a ship brings you closer to that 220 edge. My Imp opponent is not too big on more than one Gladiator, so he just brings Demolisher ACM to the table, I think I have learned how to deal with that. I don't have a lot of experience with multiple GSDs (probably will be getting during the Armada tournament gulp).
With the current rebels. Unless we are playing Fire Lanes it is difficult to 10-0 much. I won't even pretend I am WWPDSteven good.
It is about tactics. You let the GSD's comes in, you let them get close. If you are going slow enough or not having over lapping fields of fire on where the GSD will be (and trust me you can tell where they will be) then is it the GSD users fault?
The more difficult question then is, can you 10-0 Gladiator-heavy lists? Losing a ship brings you closer to that 220 edge. My Imp opponent is not too big on more than one Gladiator, so he just brings Demolisher ACM to the table, I think I have learned how to deal with that. I don't have a lot of experience with multiple GSDs (probably will be getting during the Armada tournament gulp).
I won't say if I'm good or not, we'll let the tournament decide, but I can say I table my sparring partner quite often, on any types of objectives. I play 100% Rebels.
With the current rebels. Unless we are playing Fire Lanes it is difficult to 10-0 much. I won't even pretend I am WWPDSteven good.It is about tactics. You let the GSD's comes in, you let them get close. If you are going slow enough or not having over lapping fields of fire on where the GSD will be (and trust me you can tell where they will be) then is it the GSD users fault?
The more difficult question then is, can you 10-0 Gladiator-heavy lists? Losing a ship brings you closer to that 220 edge. My Imp opponent is not too big on more than one Gladiator, so he just brings Demolisher ACM to the table, I think I have learned how to deal with that. I don't have a lot of experience with multiple GSDs (probably will be getting during the Armada tournament gulp).
I won't say if I'm good or not, we'll let the tournament decide, but I can say I table my sparring partner quite often, on any types of objectives. I play 100% Rebels.
Op says Imperials are broken, and like blood in water everyone jumps his ****....OK Darth Lupine plays the same list at 400 points wins every match....Darth Lupine plays same list minus a VSD and sprinkle a little bit of squadrons...... Still wins every game. So tell me you don't think Gladiators with ACM's , Screed Demolisher ,engine tech is a bit over the top?
Ok Screed makes sure you get a crit off . the concussion missiles damage adjacent shields... It's OK OP I and many others know what you mean and I like you brought this up and trust me every jumped my **** too because In spite of glaring evidence of the **** thing those who speak out against the ****** up ridiculous combo of the Gladiator will always be shunned in this community every one will call you an idiot and it doesn't matter if you're a competent player every one on here will cast you out like a leper if you say anything negative about their precious Gladiator.
Seriously the **** thing is silly. What would impress me if Imperial players are so **** good at this game then leave your precious Gladiators at home and play with VSD's and squadrons. And hell us rebel players will leave our Assault Frigates at home... Let's see how the game goes then.... Let's see if your win streak changes without the Gladiator? Oh wait someone will cry oh but that's not fair Rebels have three capitals in wave one....right and the only somewhat decent and Armored ship we have is an Assault Frigate.. While the other two rebel ships are fast but yet still fragile..... "Oh but you deployment is ****** up and your not playing right" ***** please...like I said put your money were your mouth is and drop the GSD out of your games and see if things change for you.
bet alot of em are too smug to drop it... That GSD ain't nothing but a crutch for you imps.
Fear leads to anger.
Anger leads to hate.
Hate leads to suffering.
You may make a fine Imperial officer yet.
Edited by DiabloAzulLol Graves13. Well then, challenge accepted. No Glads, no guppies. 300 points, and I'll bring some squadrons for our next game. I'm perfectly willing to challenge myself.
I would wish you the best of luck...
...getting 2nd place after me.
I'll leave you the leftover shrimps. 
Don't you know? That's what I really want!