Twin Laser Turrets: Why they're scary, and how you can fight back.

By Vorpal Sword, in X-Wing

While he appreciates the compliment, he's a bit upset you didn't ask first or give him credit. I'm just the messenger, it's caused quite a stir on our facebook page.

WOW... well now your friend must be new to the internet... strangeness.

:wacko:

You're friend should get over it.

Prolly... when you share info & images publicly you should expect them to be shared with other like-minded Star Brothers.

;)

There is nothing wrong with expecting credit. That's why some artists put watermarks into their work. Crediting him and offering him an apology costs you nothing.

Not trying to derail but I for one have had my work taken, advertised and on top of that someone took credit for it. It sucks and almost kept me from selling the same piece. We, not the individual but the company and I, came to an agreement.

Internet or not give credit where it is due please, always.

Oh The Horror!!!

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Guys, look at this awesome conversion that was posted to the internet.

JBR7, thanks for finding this!

No Probs...

:)

Can we move the conversation about ownership and attribution to its own thread, maybe?

I made this.

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I made this.

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...so that's a no, then?

I made this.

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...so that's a no, then?

I flew TLT hwks last night in two games, two recspec, 1 bossk, 1 greedo.

The first against 4 interceptors, two with predator and thursters, two with thrusters and adrenelin rush.

The second game against 4 a-wings with refit, thrusters, predator, and PTL.

The A-wings basically demolished me. I beat the interceptors in a close game. I learned to forget the cute crew combo and go with 4 recspec, and I need to judge my range bands better when setting dials with the hwks to make sure I can focus fire. I'm hoping to play it against a full TIE swarm soon to see how brutal that match-up is for both sides with simultaneous fire rules coming into play. Keeping autothrusters ships in arc and out of range 1 is difficult.

I wouldn't go with Spice Runners unless you specifically had a 22 point hole in your list and you /needed/ something else in the list that was exclusive to Scum. Quad HWK's would be better with PS 2 Rebel Operatives, if only to match other quad TLT lists in PS. Or just pay the two extra points and go for PS 2 Y-Wings.

I could see a 50~ point IG with a generic Autothrusters Starviper and a TLT Spice Runner. But if you're running 4 HWK's then you're just better off flying them as rebel operatives.

I wouldn't go with Spice Runners unless you specifically had a 22 point hole in your list and you /needed/ something else in the list that was exclusive to Scum. Quad HWK's would be better with PS 2 Rebel Operatives, if only to match other quad TLT lists in PS. Or just pay the two extra points and go for PS 2 Y-Wings.

I could see a 50~ point IG with a generic Autothrusters Starviper and a TLT Spice Runner. But if you're running 4 HWK's then you're just better off flying them as rebel operatives.

I can't really agree with you here. PS may be important but it is not the be all end all. Using Spice Runners gives you access to both the Illicit slot and Crew slot, neither of which are available to Y-Wings and the Illicit slot is also unavailable to Rebels. I think there still might be something to say for Feedback Array as a legit upgrade on HWK's. If you have a TIE Interceptor wander into range 1 thinking he's in your donut hole that's a dead Interceptor.

I made this.

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...so that's a no, then?

Sorry that this had to get so stupid. Go internet... GOooo!

Your topic is great regardless.

YOU Did Good Work Here Vorps.

;)

As always, Vorpal. BTW's, I've always admired your choice of call sign.

As always, Vorpal. BTW's, I've always admired your choice of call sign.

Vorps is my favorite evil nemesis (a long-standing rival; an archenemy) here.

:lol::D^_^

I am gonna win... but it is fun... kinda.

:P

He is dry... I am wet.

He is snore... I am roar!

He is blah... I am yah!

And every time he goes into class-room-mode... I will blast his beige-ass with smiles :lol:yoda.gif^_^ and colorful remarks and pretty STAR WARS Pictures!

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Cause!

:D

Biggs + 3x Operatives, RecSpec, TLT is, uh, annoying. Biggs + 2x TLT Operatives + BTL TLT stresshog is incredibly annoying. An A-Wing aces list was not nearly resilient enough (partly poor flying, but partly just...got, that's a lot of attacks), and Biggs made it extremely difficult to get a procket off (again, partly poor flying on my part). Brabbits, on the other hand, demolished the TLTs; unlike the As, they're not crippled if the dice fail them a couple times, and in the meantime they're putting out significant damage of their own. Also I was running outmaneuver, because **** you Biggs.

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I've said it before: Biggs is the biggest NPE in the game, and the most broken card in the game except for Howlrunner.

I've said it before: Biggs is the biggest NPE in the game, and the most broken card in the game except for Howlrunner.

I wouldn't even call Howlrunner that broken, she is very much held back by her bad survivability and forcing you to fly in close formation. Limiting you to 7 TIEs also is a big deal. Of course you can't ignore 2 years of 7 TIE swarm dominance with Howlrunner at the core, but its not like she can be anywhere near as abusive as Biggs. Maybe she will return to fight TLT Y-Wings, but she is herself weak to TLT, so thats a bit iffy. We shall see.

biggest NPE

What?

Negative Play Experience.

Biggs is irritating, but if you make a point to kill him first he goes down like an ugly girl on prom night.

Howlie...

I like Howlie, but she just dies. Everyone knows to shoot her first in a typical swarm list, so they do.

biggest NPE

What?

Don't know what it exactly stands for, but I believe it is something that is relatively fine on release, but potentialy so abusive that you are severly limited in what new things you can introduce later on.

Palob with TLT is just nasty. Gotta pair him up with some other high priority target(s) but Palob, TLT, and maybe K4 is going to be a strong addition to a Scum list.

biggest NPE

What?
Don't know what it exactly stands for, but I believe it is something that is relatively fine on release, but potentialy so abusive that you are severly limited in what new things you can introduce later on.

Biophysical had it right: NPE = negative play experience. There's no other element in the game that narrows a player's choices the way Biggs does, and he's just obnoxious to play against.

I've said it before: Biggs is the biggest NPE in the game, and the most broken card in the game except for Howlrunner.

Super Dash clearing a stress with a green one bank to get a focus and then boost and barrel rolling through/onto obstacles with no consequence isn't a NPE for you? Only to then dump 3-4 hits on you with his HLC turret?

Biggs is just fine. Besides for Tarn he's the only playable X-Wing. Normally it's in your opponent's best interest to focus down one ship at a time anyways and Biggs forces just that. His ability rewards good flying and planning ahead. Naturally that must be OP because this game must cater to children smearing ice cream on their faces.

I agree that Howlrunner's bonus is nuts. Not really OP now considering how ruined the meta is and how someone can just fire off a gunner HLC blast at her and kill her outright, but predator for 6 other ships for the cost of like 6 points is crazy. If we were going to created a banned list I wouldn't mind putting Howl on there.

No. Because most players aren't as pessimistic as you are.

Urgh my friends started fielding tlt y-wings now ever one to jump on the bandwagon, so now I'm gonna have to use the baron and friends until he decides not to power game again.

So it's now official I dislike small base turrets as much as large based one now.

Urgh my friends started fielding tlt y-wings now ever one to jump on the bandwagon, so now I'm gonna have to use the baron and friends until he decides not to power game again.

So it's now official I dislike small base turrets as much as large based one now.

no need to baron

buy the new core set, run Poe with thrusters, watch TLTs cry

He said to the imp player, also still have no interest in the new core so sod paying £30 to counter tlt's when I already own autoceptors.