That red build with autos will be a mean flanker. If you ignore it and let it get behind you he's gonna be putting a hurting on stuff or at the very least slow stuff down.

Unfortunately you can't do autothrusters and integrated astromech, they are both modifications

Graz the Hunter is also not bad. Oh, you won't block all the hits, but you will stop more than if you didn't. Throw on Glitterstim for that first round and you should be sitting pretty. If you force them to spend too many shots to take Graz down, the rest of your list should make short work of them (if you build it right and fly right).

You are the first person to ever refer to graz the hunter as something other than bad lol!

When I think of TLT's I think of Bren guns for some reason (dramatic cocking effect, dakkadakkadakka).

So BrenHogs it is for me.

Graz the Hunter is also not bad. Oh, you won't block all the hits, but you will stop more than if you didn't. Throw on Glitterstim for that first round and you should be sitting pretty. If you force them to spend too many shots to take Graz down, the rest of your list should make short work of them (if you build it right and fly right).

You are the first person to ever refer to graz the hunter as something other than bad lol!

Is Graz bad vs. TLT's?

Graz the Hunter is also not bad. Oh, you won't block all the hits, but you will stop more than if you didn't. Throw on Glitterstim for that first round and you should be sitting pretty. If you force them to spend too many shots to take Graz down, the rest of your list should make short work of them (if you build it right and fly right).

You are the first person to ever refer to graz the hunter as something other than bad lol!

Is Graz bad vs. TLT's?

he could stand to be much much better

but he could also be worse. PS 6 and 3 agility covering 5 health is rougher than most realize for TLTs to hit through

the problem is his ability is just so weak **** because of naked green dice, so it's hard to get a handle on him

imagine if his ability gave you the thrusters benefit. Then, we'd be talking!

A couple of GSP with, Autothrusters, PtL and Outmaneuver, would they stand a chance?

Graz the Hunter is also not bad. Oh, you won't block all the hits, but you will stop more than if you didn't. Throw on Glitterstim for that first round and you should be sitting pretty. If you force them to spend too many shots to take Graz down, the rest of your list should make short work of them (if you build it right and fly right).

You are the first person to ever refer to graz the hunter as something other than bad lol!

Is Graz bad vs. TLT's?

he could stand to be much much better

but he could also be worse. PS 6 and 3 agility covering 5 health is rougher than most realize for TLTs to hit through

the problem is his ability is just so weak **** because of naked green dice, so it's hard to get a handle on him

imagine if his ability gave you the thrusters benefit. Then, we'd be talking!

You can give him Glitterstem for that first round of fire. Just make sure he's priority #1. You can even throw a Homing Missile on him and use it on that turn. Or a Concussion Missile if you want to save a point.

A couple of GSP with, Autothrusters, PtL and Outmaneuver, would they stand a chance?

Yeah that was my plan. Takes some skill vs other lists though. Tried it twice and got not very far.

With the new core I and wave 8 I am tempted by

2xGSP, Autothrusters, PTL, Wired

GSP, Autothrusters, PTL, Juke

Jake, Autothrusters, PTL, Outmaneuvre

The extra action economy of jake is really powerful.

Graz the Hunter is also not bad. Oh, you won't block all the hits, but you will stop more than if you didn't. Throw on Glitterstim for that first round and you should be sitting pretty. If you force them to spend too many shots to take Graz down, the rest of your list should make short work of them (if you build it right and fly right).

You are the first person to ever refer to graz the hunter as something other than bad lol!

Is Graz bad vs. TLT's?

he could stand to be much much better

but he could also be worse. PS 6 and 3 agility covering 5 health is rougher than most realize for TLTs to hit through

the problem is his ability is just so weak **** because of naked green dice, so it's hard to get a handle on him

imagine if his ability gave you the thrusters benefit. Then, we'd be talking!

You can give him Glitterstem for that first round of fire. Just make sure he's priority #1. You can even throw a Homing Missile on him and use it on that turn. Or a Concussion Missile if you want to save a point.

He really should have been called Graz the Battering Ram.

Looks like it is time to bump this again.

Seriously, I'm seeing them played, and they are far, far less scary than you would think.

Looks like it is time to bump this again.

Seriously, I'm seeing them played, and they are far, far less scary than you would think.

I appreciate that hot shot of sanity into the forums. They're not horrifying. They're consistent. They are easily overcome but you have to be prepared (see also: the TIE Phantom, PWTs, Ser Baron Fel)

Looks like it is time to bump this again.

Seriously, I'm seeing them played, and they are far, far less scary than you would think.

I appreciate that hot shot of sanity into the forums. They're not horrifying. They're consistent. They are easily overcome but you have to be prepared (see also: the TIE Phantom, PWTs, Ser Baron Fel)

hotshot blaster, on the other hand, just sucks

I just won a Summer Tourney with Poe, Miranda & GSP beating a 4 Y tlt - unhinged mech in final match, despite a big mistake flying Poe and some not so good luck with red dice.

As the game was filmed, I hope it'll be good enough to be posted, so you can see Tlts ARE beatable.

Looks like it is time to bump this again.

Seriously, I'm seeing them played, and they are far, far less scary than you would think.

I appreciate that hot shot of sanity into the forums. They're not horrifying. They're consistent. They are easily overcome but you have to be prepared (see also: the TIE Phantom, PWTs, Ser Baron Fel)

hotshot blaster, on the other hand, just sucks

I don't know, I saw a bunch of Z-95s use them pretty well. Its a nice surprise.

hotshot blaster, on the other hand, just sucks

Ahaha fair point. Although! I have used it on VI/FCS Xizor to great surprise at times. The absolute last thing you expect sometimes is that PS9 arc dodge to boost past you and then light up your VIP. It's pricey but can decide games :3

I played a few generic StarVipers w/Autothrusters vs some K-wing TLTs. Yeah. That was not pretty.

Yesterday I played Poe, Tycho and Jake, with some seasoning (PTL, AT, BB8, Prockets, etc), against 4 TLT scum Y-wings with Unhinged. The y-wings flew in close formation until I reached range 1 in round 2, when they spread out.

Tycho lost a shield.

I just won a Summer Tourney with Poe, Miranda & GSP beating a 4 Y tlt - unhinged mech in final match, despite a big mistake flying Poe and some not so good luck with red dice.

As the game was filmed, I hope it'll be good enough to be posted, so you can see Tlts ARE beatable.

Yes indeed Poe is great against TLTs with 6 hp, AT and 2 agi he is not getting hut automatically, and even if he won't die fast.

Just interested in your build as i beat TLTs with Corran, Poe, Prototype lately and wanted to try this out as soon as possible:

Poe Dameron (31)

Cool Hand (1)

R5-P9 (3)

Autothrusters (2)

Miranda Doni (29)

Twin Laser Turret (6)

C-3PO (3)

Jake Farrell (24)

Veteran Instincts (1)

Chardaan Refit (-2)

Autothrusters (2)

Total: 100

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I won our last tournament with this:

Have a nice day

if you despise tlts and nothing else, you could always roll bb-8 + ptl + thrusters Poe with two Red Vets w/Predator and thrusters

that's some list tailoring if I ever saw it

Sound like a pretty solid list

soon as the T-70 expac hits, I will be running it

with the small change of one Red Vet exchanging Predator for Wired + R3-A2 to (hopefully) challenge pilots that can out PS Poe

Reds w/Predator, Autothrusters, and R2 didn't hold up as well as I had hoped that they would. It seemed that about 3/4 of the attacks would end up hitting me. I think I was a little too cautious on my approach and ended up letting the game go to time. I still had Tycho with a Proton Rocket against a half dead Y and one at full health.

Red Ace with Comms Relay and R2-D2 should really get some work done though.

I won our last tournament with this:

Syndicate Thug (18)

Twin Laser Turret (6)

Unhinged Astromech (1)

Syndicate Thug (18)

Twin Laser Turret (6)

Unhinged Astromech (1)

Syndicate Thug (18)

Twin Laser Turret (6)

Unhinged Astromech (1)

Syndicate Thug (18)

Twin Laser Turret (6)

Unhinged Astromech (1)

Total: 100

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There was tons of 0 agility ships lists but unfortunatly, I faced none. I always got matched against freaking 3 agi arc dodger except 1x 4BZ.

Now that I saw it first hand, I must admit it is not as powerful as I thought. I won all my matches, but I worked way too hard in all of them if I compare to when I played 4BZ or Thunderstruck.

And yeah, 4BZ is a freaking hard counter to it and even if I won that match, the match ended with me having only 1 Y-Wing left with 1 hull point.

But unlike what most people says, a good player will always have a shot on a ship with at least 3 of the 4 Y-Wing. I never had trouble to be able to shoot with them. At minimum I had 2 TLT shot + 1 R1 front arc shot.

I think TLT strenght lies in a list having 2 ships with them to wreak some havoc while you have some arc dodgers to mess up with ships that decide to focus on your TLT.

Oh and last thing... I deeply, from the deepest of my innerself HATE Soontir Fel. I had to face him twice because I had to face Mu0n during the swiss and during the final and when you need to shoot at him for 3-4 rounds with 3 TLT just to be able to land 1 hit, you want to flip the table.

Have a nice day

Congrats. I wonder what Mu0n's perspective was on these matches.

Oh and last thing... I deeply, from the deepest of my innerself HATE Soontir Fel. I had to face him twice because I had to face Mu0n during the swiss and during the final and when you need to shoot at him for 3-4 rounds with 3 TLT just to be able to land 1 hit, you want to flip the table.

Good. Goooooodddd.