Hi guys, let's see if you can help me with this topic:

Pincer Attack : Perform an attack targeting up to 2 adjacent heros adjacent to this monster. 1 attack roll is made but each hero rolls defense dice separately.

Stalker : A monster cannot declar your Wolf as the target of an attack if it could legally target a hero figure instead.

So, say an Arachyura is adjacent to 1 hero and the Wolf, and wants to use the Pincer Attack. Can the Arachyura target the Wolf, as there is no other second hero to be targeted?

I'm pretty sure FFG confirmed that Merriod's Flail and Ariad's Cursed Assault could target the Wolf legally, but every of this skills has a slightly different text.

What do you think?

I think it does hit the wolf, at least that how we played it.

He selects the hero as his first target, then he selects a second target. Since the hero is already being attacked he can't be attacked again, and so your wolf becomes the only legal target for the second attack.

Agreed. There are only 2 legal targets, and he can't target the same one twice. So, if he is allowed to choose 2 targets, one of those targets gets to be the wolf.

If there is another adjacent hero then no. But if the warrior and the wolf are the only targets then the wolf would be targeted.

But, are the targets chosen sequentially, or are they picked simultaneosluy? My heroes argued that I couldn't attack the Wolf because I could legally just not pick him, and attack only the hero.

You're targeting two heroes but only attacking once. So since the attack is effecting each simultaneously, It's for that reason that you can attack the wolf.

But, are the targets chosen sequentially, or are they picked simultaneosluy? My heroes argued that I couldn't attack the Wolf because I could legally just not pick him, and attack only the hero.

It is true, you could choose not to attack the wolf- but the skill doesn't say "you can't attack it if you can choose not to." It says you cannot attack it if you can attack another hero instead. To prohibit the attack against the wolf, there has to be a valid target to replace the wolf with. In this case, there is not.

Scenario 1:

"You are attacking hero A and the wolf, but you can't do that, because you could attack hero A, and attack hero B instead of the wolf."

"My mistake, you're right."

Scenario 2:

"You are attacking hero A and the wolf, but you can't do that, because you could attack hero A, and attack no one else instead of the wolf."

"'No one else' is not a hero i can target. Die, hero! ...And your little dog, too! "

*yelp*

Thanks all, mates.

That was my guess, but I wanted more opinions and points of view to convince my heroes that the dog must die.

Thanks all, mates.

That was my guess, but I wanted more opinions and points of view to convince my heroes that the dog must die.

No problem. Also, while this is not explicitly in the rules, I'd recommend in the case of ranged attacks judging "valid target" based on the maximum range the monster can roll. Another hero figure 5 or maybe 9 (if you could roll surge range) spaces away is a valid target. Another hero 15 spaces away, while maybe in LOS, not a valid target. I'm pretty sure the legal definition of valid target would be "an enemy figure in your LOS" for a ranged attack, but the above is a house rule we decided on when we played with the beastmaster. If you're debating "predator" with your heroes for a melee attack, it might be a good idea to bring this up before it becomes an issue. You could also just hope you're never in LOS of the wolf and a hero who is really far away.

I would have say "no" since there's the word "target" and not "affected"

I would have say "no" since there's the word "target" and not "affected"

That doesn't matter.

You cant target the same hero twice. he skill asks for 2 targets. The hero 1 must be the first target.

In this case, there is no other secondary 'legal' target other than the Wolf, so the Wolf becomes the second target.