Break a ship with an EPT!

By Reiver, in X-Wing

Custom Cockpit (1pt)

Small ship only. Unique pilots only.

Modification.

Add [EPT] icon to your upgrade bar if you do not already have [EPT] on your upgrade bar.

We've had far, far too many ship pilots that looked great on paper, yet fell flat once released.

Many of them were for wont of an EPT. While 'for free' might be a bit much for FFG to stomach in such a broad upgrade, the question remains: Are there any pilots that could become broken if you can field an EPT on them when you previously couldn't?

Some possibilites:

Torkil Mux w/ Predator (Make anything PS0, reroll two dice!)

K-wings & Punishers (Never built for EPTs in the first place)

Anything else, you can come up with, folks!

When designing, one must not look only to where something can help (Hiya, Garven!), but also whether it can break. This is that thread. Whatcha got? :)

Edited by Reiver

Admiral Chiraneu and Predator.

ACD Whisper with VI.

PtL on Super Corran.

PtL on Super Dash.

Certain power combos have already ruined the game, I don't see why a HWK getting double Predator would be anywhere close to breaking the game as hard as the above combos.

I feel like Backstabber with out maneuver would be hilarious.

Miranda Doni with Opportunist.

Miranda with predator and TLT would be gross

Barrel rolling Lambdas!

Tarn with Lone Wolf.

PTL bombers?

Dark Curse lone wolf

Colzet PTL/predator

15 point wingman

Laetin lone wolf/PTL

Barrel rolling Lambdas!

Actually, Captain Kagi with Expert Handling would be really irritating. Everything at PS1-7, and possibly ships at PS8, has to lock on to you--and now you can shed a lock every round. His cost might still justify it, and it's not quite up to Biggs-level trolling, but it would be frustrating to play against.

I could see this allowing more frequent use of Tie Interceptors Kir Kanos, Fel's Wrath, and Lt Lorrir.

Awings Arvel Crynd and Gemmer Sojan would change dramatically.

HWK Rebel Roark Garnet and Scum Torkil Mux would be interesting as well.

Evil Morals with Predator for rerolling 180-degree HLC hilarity.

How would Dark curse with Elusiveness work? because that's literally breaking the game.

I could see this allowing more frequent use of Tie Interceptors Kir Kanos, Fel's Wrath, and Lt Lorrir.

Awings Arvel Crynd and Gemmer Sojan would change dramatically.

HWK Rebel Roark Garnet and Scum Torkil Mux would be interesting as well.

LT. Lorrir would love Outmaneuver, VI, or Predator. Kir Kanos with PTL would arguably be a Teir 1 pilot. Fel's Wrath would still be f***ing awful. :D

Arvel and Gemmer already have access to an EPT. I don't see how a 2nd one would really help more than ATs, or a Stealth Device.

Edited by Jo Jo

Old school. Biggs. Then he can take another Astro.

I don't see why everyone PS 5 and above doesn't have one. Really. There have been a number of mid PS pilots without epts that would see competitive play with an EPT: Kir, Gemmer, maybe Lorrir, Laetin... The power of PTL and Predator should be the ceiling for a cheap EPT. If you're charging a point and a mod slot for it (wouldn't really help those listed pilots) that's a heavy cost.

Would an "auto damage" sniper Kir really break the game? Laetin with focus and evade be too tough to crack? Lorrir rerolling a dice or 2 higher PS? VI krassis? I think the game would survive.

EDIT: Thought the card said "even if you don't have an EPT" so I thought it wS just adding to all unique pilots. Seems I read that wrong. But I'll leave my post anyway.

So on Tycho with the A-wing title we now have 3 EPTs?

-Push the Limit

-Daredevil

-Predator

Now, you're not gonna Daredevil and Push the Limit in the same round, but it gives you options.

Alternatively,

-Lightning Reflexes

-Daredevil

-Expert Handling for a variety of movement options.

Still not quite at "broken" level, I don't think.

Edited by Budgernaut

It would certainly need to be only for those without epts already. Soontir or chirpy with dual epts?

It would certainly need to be only for those without epts already. Soontir or chirpy with dual epts?

if it allowed for simply an extra, and was still a modification and not limited. You could have a 3 ept Fel. Outmaneuver, Lone Wolf, Opportunist.

Admiral Chiraneu and Predator.- VI is better

ACD Whisper with VI.- no longer broken

PtL on Super Corran.-VI is better

PtL on Super Dash.- Not broken. See donut hole and Higher PS

Certain power combos have already ruined the game, I don't see why a HWK getting double Predator would be anywhere close to breaking the game as hard as the above combos.-No they haven't you just cant figure out how to beat them.

The point of the thread was to try and break things that otherwise aren't broken, not complain about perfectly fine ships.

Edited by Sacimino40

I'd be more interested in adding an EPT to generic pilots of PS3+, even if it did cost a point.

EDIT: Thought the card said "even if you don't have an EPT" so I thought it wS just adding to all unique pilots. Seems I read that wrong. But I'll leave my post anyway.

So on Tycho with the A-wing title we now have 3 EPTs?

-Push the Limit

-Daredevil

-Predator

Now, you're not gonna Daredevil and Push the Limit in the same round, but it gives you options.

Alternatively,

-Lightning Reflexes

-Daredevil

-Expert Handling for a variety of movement options.

Still not quite at "broken" level, I don't think.

Add Experimental Interface and you can PTL and Daredevil in one round. This is actually how I flew him in the championships this year (Without the illegal 3rd EPT obviously). I won a championship with it, but it's terrifying to fly. I never new where he would end up.

honestly, All I can think about is SoT + int agent shuttles (and then cry because they don't exist :()

Kir Kanos with PTL and Targeting Computer, becomes a very reliable Squint HLC

Kir Kanos with PTL and Targeting Computer, becomes a very reliable Squint HLC

reliable != broken :P

(if only FFG got the memo :()

Edited by ficklegreendice