I just want official measurements released so at least all 3rd party dimensions are the same.

As far as I know, all 3rd party templates are the same dimensions. They may be off by a MM or 2 from each other, but not enough to have a big impact on the game.

The cardboard ones that FFG makes are likely to have a fair amount more variance themselves, so the 3rd party ones are likely more consistent then the official ones.

I just want official measurements released so at least all 3rd party dimensions are the same.

As far as I know, all 3rd party templates are the same dimensions. They may be off by a MM or 2 from each other, but not enough to have a big impact on the game.

The cardboard ones that FFG makes are likely to have a fair amount more variance themselves, so the 3rd party ones are likely more consistent then the official ones.

If you are seeing templates that are noticeably off then they are probably Attack Wing templates which look interchangeable with X-Wing templates but are not because of slightly different measurements.

I love me some acrylic templates and tokens. I'm kind of a mark for 'official' add on stuff. They could even partner with an existing company like litko to make them.

I've been using the same core set templates for nearly 2 years and they're still holding up fine without any sort of modification. I've seen other people's though that are falling apart, what are you people doing to your templates?

This! Mine are still going strong. I'm careful with them and they're lasting fine.

In terms of the wider question, I'm not fussed in the slightest by acrylic tokens. I've already got bags of the card tokens so even if some wear out, it isn't an issue. I can understand that central components like the range ruler and maneuver templates that are always used every game might be a valuable upgrade. We'll all get a second set anyway though if a new core set were to hypothetically be released.

The acrylic I would really value would be bomb tokens. Any bombs that remain on the board, you might quickly be limited by in terms of how many physical tokens you own, so official bomb tokens would be useful.

For other prizes, I think that the way to go is alt art upgrade cards. The pilot cards are all well and good, but you will always have as many as you need to actually play. Upgrade cards are more limiting. How much more valuable would an alt art C3-PO crew be? Or Autothrusters? Predator? Engine Upgrade? Cards people will actually want and use because they need them to build lists, rather than just because they want a status bump.

Also, with all the third party acrylics around, I can't tell which are official and which aren't anyway.

I second the option of acrylic bomb tokens. I have two k-wings already (Gencon attending buddies are the best) but still may want some extra Conner Nets for Epic play especially.

Would love to buy official FFG acrylic tokens.

I also think that creating this artificial market with limited edition prizes that sell in the $100's on eBay can make things more competitive in the tourney scene.

Tokens not so much, but black movement templates and range rulers - Yes!

They don't make official acrylics because Organized Play uses acrylics for tournament swag.

I also think that creating this artificial market with limited edition prizes that sell in the $100's on eBay can make things more competitive in the tourney scene.

I honestly don't get why people buy tournament winner acrylics for tournaments they didn't win. It's like buying someone else's trophy (and not one of historical significance). Doesn't make sense to me.

I bought a green and red set of acrylic maneuver and range templates when I first got into the game and had planned to buy a couple of full token sets too. But seeing as I have 4 core sets (probably going to be 8 soon, now having seen those leaked pics) and well over 100 expansions, the thousands of paper tokens I've accumulated make it hard for me to justify spending more money on acrylics.

That being said, should FFG release full token sets in acrylic, with the proper actual symbols on them, I'd buy'em.

They don't make official acrylics because Organized Play uses acrylics for tournament swag.

I also think that creating this artificial market with limited edition prizes that sell in the $100's on eBay can make things more competitive in the tourney scene.

I honestly don't get why people buy tournament winner acrylics for tournaments they didn't win. It's like buying someone else's trophy (and not one of historical significance). Doesn't make sense to me.

I asked Alex Davy if this was a possibility a while back when he came to our regionals.

Short answer: No.

Longer answer: It would sort of be stepping on Organized Play's toes and make the content they put out as prizes less special. And other reasons.

not gunna happen.

I was reading through your post there and got to the X-Wing section. Kinda funny how you interpreted his comment regarding the X-Wing based on what we now know is on the way. If you had taken him literally you could have broken one of the biggest pieces of news in the game a good 7 months ahead of time.

I hope not. Let FFG put their money in to game development, not accessory development.

Tokens not so much, but black movement templates and range rulers - Yes!

You can literally order these at applied perspective. I have my own set cause I loved the regional ones and fell just short of the top 8 .

Because to some they're not trophies. Rather just some little plastic pieces that are more convenient for game play over the paper.

Sure but you can buy AP tokens for a lot less then you what you can get on ebay.

5 Evade tokens can go for as much as $15-20, at AP you can get 5 for $5, same goes for focus tokens, stress tokens, ion tokens, ect... So if it's as simple as acrylics are nicer to use, and I agree they are. There's much cheaper options out there.

Why would someone play twice if not more for the same thing? It's not like it's even more convenient, since I can go to AP and get what I want right now or a week from now. With ebay it's hit and miss if you'll find what you want.

Also, some people who enjoy this game don't have a means to get to tournaments.

If you don't go to tournaments why would you want tournament swag? When again tokens that are in every way as good are so much cheeper and easier to get. In some cases the tokens are even better, because the AP mirrored shield tokens look way better then the tournament kit ones.

I asked Alex Davy if this was a possibility a while back when he came to our regionals.

Short answer: No.

Longer answer: It would sort of be stepping on Organized Play's toes and make the content they put out as prizes less special. And other reasons.

not gunna happen.

I was reading through your post there and got to the X-Wing section. Kinda funny how you interpreted his comment regarding the X-Wing based on what we now know is on the way. If you had taken him literally you could have broken one of the biggest pieces of news in the game a good 7 months ahead of time.

Hahahaha I blew it! :D

I honestly don't get why people buy tournament winner acrylics for tournaments they didn't win. It's like buying someone else's trophy (and not one of historical significance). Doesn't make sense to me.

I just explained it in my post earlier. People like me don't see them as trophies. They're a better quality game component, not a prize.

Honestly I don't see any reason why FFG couldn't simply make tournament reward tokens look different than a standard set of acrylic tokens that FFG would produce. Neither would be diminished and the status symbol/eBay paradigm would still be intact.

"But what would they give for prizes?"

I'm glad you asked. How about giving out alternate paint job ships? The value is relatively equivalent (between a single small ship and a set of movement templates) and people would be much more likely to hold onto those and less likely to sell them on eBay.

If FFG produced their own acrylics I'd buy them.

Because to some they're not trophies. Rather just some little plastic pieces that are more convenient for game play over the paper.

Sure but you can buy AP tokens for a lot less then you what you can get on ebay.5 Evade tokens can go for as much as $15-20, at AP you can get 5 for $5, same goes for focus tokens, stress tokens, ion tokens, ect... So if it's as simple as acrylics are nicer to use, and I agree they are. There's much cheaper options out there.Why would someone play twice if not more for the same thing? It's not like it's even more convenient, since I can go to AP and get what I want right now or a week from now. With ebay it's hit and miss if you'll find what you want.

Also, some people who enjoy this game don't have a means to get to tournaments.

If you don't go to tournaments why would you want tournament swag? When again tokens that are in every way as good are so much cheeper and easier to get. In some cases the tokens are even better, because the AP mirrored shield tokens look way better then the tournament kit ones.

An example is my case. I have a VERY busy life with 3 young children, work 55+ hours a week (usually +), have a lot of what little spare time I get chewed up with volunteer activist work, I live in an area that is fairly remote from most tournaments, etc, etc, etc...

I have very little time to play the game casually, let alone commit to competitive play. However, I very much love this game and the product that FFG puts out, and if I had the money to collect all official X-Wing Miniatures products, I would. Buying those official tokens on EBay is a lot more convenient to a collector such as myself, as opposed to committing a lot of time I don't have to tournaments that don't even guarantee your going to walk away with any tokens.

For me, those tokens are not trophies, they're collectors items, and paying the inflated prices on EBay is still a lot cheaper and more time convenient for me then trying to get into every tournament. For me, the trophy is the enjoyment of actually getting to compete.

For me, those tokens are not trophies, they're collectors items

You are the first person I've seen who has given me a decent answer to that question. The idea of them being collectors items does make sense to me.

I don't think of them that way myself, so if the only thing I wanted was a token made of a superior material, acrylic vs cardboard, I can't see a reason to pay ebay prices for something when I get get the same thing for less and have them be just as good.

But if you're looking to collect things then I can see why you might be willing to pay more.

For me, those tokens are not trophies, they're collectors items

You are the first person I've seen who has given me a decent answer to that question. The idea of them being collectors items does make sense to me.I don't think of them that way myself, so if the only thing I wanted was a token made of a superior material, acrylic vs cardboard, I can't see a reason to pay ebay prices for something when I get get the same thing for less and have them be just as good.But if you're looking to collect things then I can see why you might be willing to pay more.

I totally understand your point of view. For you, that's the way it is, and I can respect that. It's all in how an individual perceives it. For some, those tokens are a trophy that belong only in the hands of those who make the commitment to compete. I would love to be able to make that commitment, and perhaps one day I will. But for now, I have more pressing life matters that come first. But, because I love this game and enjoy collecting FFG's official products, eBay will unfortunately have to remain as my more convenient source for collecting those tokens, when I can afford it (ships come before tokens, and Armada sucked up acrylics funds). Until then, my excessive supply of paper will have to do.

Yeah, I'd like a Deluxe Starter Kit with all acrylic components.

I haven't bought any third party stuff -- yet -- in part because I haven't found designs I'm completely happy with.

Yes we would buy them and they can come up with a different prize type for tourneys.

Yes we would buy them and they can come up with a different prize type for tourneys.

But, what would you suggest? That's like saying "We know you've been doing it like this for 3 years now, but we want you to stop, and you guys have to come up with the alternative."

Why would they do that? It removes a perfectly good option for them, with only lesser options from my point of view. More alt-art cards? Most people I've met prefer the acrylics as prizes...

Jacob

Yes we would buy them and they can come up with a different prize type for tourneys.

But, what would you suggest? That's like saying "We know you've been doing it like this for 3 years now, but we want you to stop, and you guys have to come up with the alternative."

Why would they do that? It removes a perfectly good option for them, with only lesser options from my point of view. More alt-art cards? Most people I've met prefer the acrylics as prizes...

Jacob

Well, one good reason could be if there is more players out there willing to buy FFG acrylics then there is tournament players opposed to it.

Honestly I don't see any reason why FFG couldn't simply make tournament reward tokens look different than a standard set of acrylic tokens that FFG would produce. Neither would be diminished and the status symbol/eBay paradigm would still be intact.

"But what would they give for prizes?"

I'm glad you asked. How about giving out alternate paint job ships? The value is relatively equivalent (between a single small ship and a set of movement templates) and people would be much more likely to hold onto those and less likely to sell them on eBay.

If FFG produced their own acrylics I'd buy them.

EXCELLENT ideas!!!

So my regional dice and templates I won aren't a show of skill because one person at your local store bought them? I'm sorry, but all my medals (missing the current one), acrylics, bags, and dice were won or traded for like item (had three imperial cog medals traded one for a Darth Vader one). Only things I'm missing are the nationals and worlds cards/rewards, oh and the first place regionals stuff. So I think they should have official acrylics? Yeah, but just X-wing branded one.