Well, well. A new core set seems to be certain:

Please remove that link. We've done a good job of not getting this thread deleted yet.

I'm more curious about the other two product codes. Good bet they are just the ... for the things in the.... Still hoping we'll get two new things as well. Like say a new Falcon or other combo pack. I wouldn't be terribly disappointed in a set of acrylic tokens and templates either. There's still some potential to be surprised yet. I hope. I BELIEVE IN FORCE DAY SANTA! Lol

But on another note, won't this thread just get deleted too? Why bother dude?

The other 2 are probably the Tie Figher and X-Wing separate..

It still strikes me as odd that they went ahead and put the boost reminder card in the wave eight Advanced prototype, if the new... Will have that ability in it.

It makes sense to me. If they didn't do that, then in theory someone could buy the advanced prototype and not have the boost rules. You have someone who got a core set some time ago but never really did much with X-Wing, got into Rebels in a big way and heard there will be Rebels ships in the game, so they're going to give it another chance.FFG can't assume someone will buy both starter sets, or even buy the new one at all. So any future products will have to assume the "least common denominator" as it were.Edit: I didn't think a new core set was likely before. But I'm guessing that FFG/LFL is hoping to get the new core set into some of the big box stores like Target and Walmart to cash in on the TFA frenzy. The first core set didn't do very well at Target after all.

About that edit. That makes the most sense.

Maybe once this new cite had been around a few months and wave eight is out, wave nine could see the drop off of the current reminder cards to make room for me ones?

The price of printing a card is pretty minor. FFG seems to have a policy of assuming that a person playing this game and it seems most others they make, will have a core set and that and only that expansion pack.

So they make a point of putting everything you might need in each pack. So if we assume that there will be a new rule book, one that includes rules for ions, boosts, systems, cloaking, bombs, ect... That would still at best allow them to skip printing cards for new waves, that don't introduce new mechanics.

But even then, there comes a question of which core set FFG assumes people have. IMO I think assuming the OT core set makes more sense, because that has the oldest rule set.

Will we be getting kits so we can upgrade our 1-3 core sets to the new standard of play?

So rumors are flying around, episode 7 ships which are like episode 4 ships only better and now a new core set. A little premature if you ask me but I will be okay as long as they do the following:

Release upgrade kits that have all the new standard components so you can take a classic core set and combine it with this kit and make it so now you got the tools needed to play standard 2nd edition. What it needs assuming that everything is new and not in the 1st edition core set.

• new damage deck cards to update existing damage decks
• new maneuver and range templates if any new maneuver templates are made
• new dice if any new dice are made
• new action tokens (if any)
• new obstacle tokens (not mission tokens)
• Rule booklet 2nd edition (or a summary booklet of all new rules and changes made to the core rule set.)

What is not needed (we can go ahead and buy a 2nd edition core set)

• Any components that is already in the 1st edition core set (a given)
• Models and base asembly
• maneuver dials
• pilot cards and tiles
• upgrade cards
• mission tokens

So any opinions about this?

So basically what you want is an upgrade kit that contain pratically all the stuff that gonna be in the new core set... just buy the **** new core set.

Will we be getting kits so we can upgrade our 1-3 core sets to the new standard of play?

So rumors are flying around, episode 7 ships which are like episode 4 ships only better and now a new core set. A little premature if you ask me but I will be okay as long as they do the following:

Release upgrade kits that have all the new standard components so you can take a classic core set and combine it with this kit and make it so now you got the tools needed to play standard 2nd edition. What it needs assuming that everything is new and not in the 1st edition core set.

• new damage deck cards to update existing damage decks
• new maneuver and range templates if any new maneuver templates are made
• new dice if any new dice are made
• new action tokens (if any)
• new obstacle tokens (not mission tokens)
• Rule booklet 2nd edition (or a summary booklet of all new rules and changes made to the core rule set.)

What is not needed (we can go ahead and buy a 2nd edition core set)

• Any components that is already in the 1st edition core set (a given)
• Models and base asembly
• maneuver dials
• pilot cards and tiles
• upgrade cards
• mission tokens

So any opinions about this?

Well "if" a new core set was on it's way, it would be way to late to meet these request.

While an update to the rule book would be nice I don't see why people want them to stop printing rule cards. I find it more convenient when playing with a new player to hand them a rule card then to have to flip through the book regularly. I just started Armada and I really like the 2 reference cards that come with that core set.

Sure after awhile you start to accumulate a lot but they aren't hurting anything. If you don't want them pitch them in the garbage or do what I do and give them to your 2 year old so they can play X-Wing with daddy.

I expect that an ep VII core set would be similar in nature to the current core set (with the obvious difference in ships and expansion cards). I expect that the rules would be kept the same as they are now, although they may be rewritten to a degree to incorporate errata and include rules that have been introduced since the original core set was released. Furthermore, it seriously wouldn't surprise me if further printings of the standard core set also then receive this update.

Basically, I would expect to see 2 different core sets standing alongside each other rather than one superceding the other:

- The Original Trilogy Core Set (what we have now).

- The Sequel Trilogy Core Set (AKA epVII core set)

Both would act as gateways into the same game, depending on why the potential gamer is interested. Hell, we could even then have a core set based on the preque.... OKOK I'LL STOP PLEASE STOP SHOOTING AT ME >.<

If a new core set had a different damage deck, it wouldn't surprise me if you could choose which deck to use in a game (but not mix them) in the same way that you can now choose which obstacles you want to use (either from the core set or more recent large ship expansions).

A new starter is just a maybe. There is really no real need. A new rulebook and new damage deck and more dice would be welcome (as would new alternate paint job ships) but it isn't needed for the game's survival.

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The 3 SKUs are still most likely to be the new tie, new Xwing, and new shuttle. If they combine 2 to 1 then maybe it's something else we don't even know about yet! Also more exciting to me than 2.0.

Well... Someone missed all of last night

I assume with new abilities on the new basic ties they will cost more than 12 point standard academies.

That being assumed I would purchase 2 new cores and 1 of each new expansion for the new tie and new Xwing.

Will have to see were they price in at though. Will still want to be able to run a full swarm of the new ties however many that is based on point cost.

I think I'd be pretty excited if the additional two upgrade packs included the Orange/Black X-Wing and the Chromed Tie. I'd also be stoked if they came with even more great new pilots. If you could run out 4-6 new named pilots for both the Tie and the X-Wing, plus all the Wave 7 stuff, I'd be sure that the upcoming Meta after this (which would include the Worlds tourney) would be absolutely uncertain.

Jacob

That's what I said. I just also said I hoped it wasn't actually the case. Makes sense it wouldn't be. Every core set FFG does comes out a while before the boosters that support it. Consider how many new pilots they had to make just for the new.... and how those will impact the meta right when an entire wave is about to hit as well. The new... would have at least five new name pilots most likely, a new round of special upgrades of all kinds. Blisters, if not strictly separate packages of the same content, would bring enough to double that. That's a LOT of content to drop into the meta by surprise for just two ships. No ship should get expanded content that quickly in a game this far along. I'm betting against the odds on this I know, but I think/hope there's still something else to come.

Pretty certain that Wave 1 was released at the same time as the core set.

Umm, you do know the only reason why it is a surprise is because of LFL, right? FFG didn't exactly have a choice. They might not have even had a choice on to whether to make the product. I also fail to see how it is any real difference to a normal release with previews.

I don't really know why some peeps are against a new core. The current one is cheaper than three individual blisters. Hell, it's only a couple of quid more than most wanted, with same amount of ships, extra dice, a damage deck etc etc.

If you can't or don't want to pony up £25 for a new core set, that includes new sculpts and who knows what else, then this is probably not the game for you! Or, you know, you could just not buy it, and still play with your existing toys.

I already have 12 TIE's, and I'll be buying the gozanti, two new core, and a new expansion if there is one. Will I have too many? Probably, but then I'll maybe paint up a couple of different squadrons just for fun.

P.S. I can't think of many miniatures games, where a new starter box is so cheap.

Once they preview the new core, people will be on it like stink on ****.

Will we be getting kits so we can upgrade our 1-3 core sets to the new standard of play?

So rumors are flying around, episode 7 ships which are like episode 4 ships only better and now a new core set. A little premature if you ask me but I will be okay as long as they do the following:

Release upgrade kits that have all the new standard components so you can take a classic core set and combine it with this kit and make it so now you got the tools needed to play standard 2nd edition. What it needs assuming that everything is new and not in the 1st edition core set.

• new damage deck cards to update existing damage decks
• new maneuver and range templates if any new maneuver templates are made
• new dice if any new dice are made
• new action tokens (if any)
• new obstacle tokens (not mission tokens)
• Rule booklet 2nd edition (or a summary booklet of all new rules and changes made to the core rule set.)

What is not needed (we can go ahead and buy a 2nd edition core set)

• Any components that is already in the 1st edition core set (a given)
• Models and base asembly
• maneuver dials
• pilot cards and tiles
• upgrade cards
• mission tokens

So any opinions about this?

Well "if" a new core set was on it's way, it would be way to late to meet these request.

Not the core set but is it too late for the upgrade kit for first edition core sets? Assuming any of the required items are something that is added to second edition.

IMHO a person with only the first edition core set should be able to play with players that have the 2nd edition core set. If not then that needs to be fixed, a simple upgrade kit that includes what the 1st edition is missing in order to play with 2nd edition shouldn't be too complicated.

I don't really see what you would need to upgrade to achieve that. Your old core set has everything you need to fly the ships you got with it. The new core set will have everything it needs to fly the included ships. Why would you need anything extra to fly your t65 or ties against your opponents t70 or ties?

Will we be getting kits so we can upgrade our 1-3 core sets to the new standard of play?

So rumors are flying around, episode 7 ships which are like episode 4 ships only better and now a new core set. A little premature if you ask me but I will be okay as long as they do the following:

Release upgrade kits that have all the new standard components so you can take a classic core set and combine it with this kit and make it so now you got the tools needed to play standard 2nd edition. What it needs assuming that everything is new and not in the 1st edition core set.

• new damage deck cards to update existing damage decks
• new maneuver and range templates if any new maneuver templates are made
• new dice if any new dice are made
• new action tokens (if any)
• new obstacle tokens (not mission tokens)
• Rule booklet 2nd edition (or a summary booklet of all new rules and changes made to the core rule set.)

What is not needed (we can go ahead and buy a 2nd edition core set)

• Any components that is already in the 1st edition core set (a given)
• Models and base asembly
• maneuver dials
• pilot cards and tiles
• upgrade cards
• mission tokens

So any opinions about this?

So basically what you want is an upgrade kit that contain pratically all the stuff that gonna be in the new core set... just buy the **** new core set.

Nope, everything in the list of what is not needed is what is going to be in the 2nd core set and we should just go ahead and get the 2nd edition for the new ships pilots and upgrades.

The upgrade kits is to include additional standard required to play the game that was not in the core set. The dice the maneuver templates the range template and damage deck.

Say what if they added in speed 4 banks and turns, Well Juno Eclipse is a 1st edition pilot that can now do 4 banks however if all you have were the first edition core set well Juno would be illegal to play.

Another example and the most important lets say the damage deck is a little bit larger, they have all the same cards from the 1st edition but they added some more critical effects and has a few more direct hits in it. Well then all of a sudden ALL X-WING PLAYERS now have illegal lists based on the fact that they are missing core components mainly the damage deck. The damage deck is supposed to be standard across all players. If any damage deck is different then the game-play mechanics collapse. Sure you can say well lets just make 1st edition and 2nd edition x-wing matches but that would split the player base. X-wing is the 2nd most popular table top miniatures game dividing everyone up like that is a sure fire way to drop it from the top 5.

But then again that is assuming the 2nd edition core set will have new damage cards new maneuver templates, new range template and new dice. If 2nd edition is pretty much the same as the 1st edition instead with an updated rule book and new ships/pilots/upgrades and mission tokens then sure we don't need a kit as 1st edition is 100% compatible with 2nd edition and X-wing players can still play the same game.

There will not be a second edition.

ETA: To be clear, what I mean here is that--as I've said twice in other posts, now--there's no evidence to suspect there's a new edition on the way, and the fact that the Wave 8 spoilers appear to be completely compatible is at least very suggestive that any rules changes will be pretty small.

this will be a new coreset

it will be exactly the same as the old coreset

the ships will be different, maybe the missions

that is all

this will be a new coreset

it will be exactly the same as the old coreset

the ships will be different, maybe the missions

that is all

and new upgrades, in case that needs to be mentioned

looks like a new upgrade slot even for the Pele Droid

One thing I will be intrigued to see is if they choose to change up the TL tokens. The current ones are large and unwieldy and are already at some crazy double letter iterations.

Will they?

A. Reduce their size?

B. Start with a new numbering/letter sequence?

C. Incorporate TL and ship numbers together?

D. None of the the above.

E. Use the same numbers and size as the original coreset? (I think wave 8 uses the original style for TLs, so more than likely it is this).

A revised rule book is the easiest way to make ordnance playable either by adding special rules, or adding a new dice to roll alongside ordnance attacks. I am ok with forcing people to purchase the new coreset. Will it happen?, I'm guessing no, but one can hope.

One thing I will be intrigued to see is if they choose to change up the TL tokens.

They won't be changing.

you don't need a revised rulebook for ordnance

just errata the whole "TL, spend your TL + discard this card" by cutting off one of the requirements

I would love to see target locks with numbers and ship ID inserts with letters. Why not?

And maybe, just maybe, a tournament where the prize is a rectangle radar dish that you can swap out on your Falcon and the participation prize is alt art Old Han.

you don't need a revised rulebook for ordnance

just errata the whole "TL, spend your TL + discard this card" by cutting off one of the requirements

I'll admit I'll be slightly frustrated if FFG don't take the opportunity to refresh the rule book while they have the chance, but I suspect I will be disappointed.