Are Tie Fighter still viable?

By devotedknight, in X-Wing

Are Tie Fighter still viable?

Yes, definitely! Swarms of 7 or 8 TIE Fighters aren't as popular as they used to be, partly due to Margin of Victory rules in tournaments, but they're still quite powerful. A mini-swarm of around 4 TIE Fighters can also make for a great half of a list, with the other half as a single upgraded ace or pair of support ships.

There's also some good uses for a single TIE Fighter as a filler and blocker, especially the cheapest Academy Pilot or Dark Curse with or without a Stealth Device.

I'm assuming you mean other than academy pilots and Howlrunner (and maybe Backstabber/Dark Curse)?

I would argue that every Tie Fighter Pilot is viable in some way, whether it's point's fillers or special pilot traits.

Absolutely not, unless you fly 7 or 8 of them.

Game ruining hyper ships like Super Corran and Super Dash can take out an equivalent amount of points of TIE Fighters. Super Corran is can easily take out 4 TIEs and Super Dash can easily take out 5 TIEs. What you need to do is sledgehammer your swarm around before it diminishes in power to the point where it can't kill an equivalent point costed super ship.

I imagine that running 4 TIEs with something at 52 points would just leave with with an unwinnable game after you've traded your 52 point thing for their fat turret and you have to kill Corran now.

No there not, trust me.

I will gladly take them off your hands because I'm such a nice person, I'll even spare you the annoyance of collecting money for them.

Yes, good filler and good blockers.

Highly

Yes, they are. Now go buy some from miniature market for half price!

I LOVE TIE FIGHTERS!

:lol:

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Edited by Joe Boss Red Seven

A faction's cheapest ship will never be irrelevant. They can still be irritating and a well placed block can win games. Even so expect help coming from the new Gozanti Carrier.

I think the biggest problem is the lack of competitive Imperial lists -- right now, it's basically RACFel or bust. The TIE fighter is an excellent little ship, but it has no lists to go in. RAC and miniswarm isn't bad, but the swarm doesn't serve the same role as Soontir does (it can't act as a decoy as effectively). Plus, MOV.

Absofreakinlutely!

They are still quite useful little targets urr i meant ships ;) Jk but as what has been said already they still have their place just as z-95s do as well.

Absolutely not, unless you fly 7 or 8 of them.

Game ruining hyper ships like Super Corran and Super Dash can take out an equivalent amount of points of TIE Fighters. Super Corran is can easily take out 4 TIEs and Super Dash can easily take out 5 TIEs. What you need to do is sledgehammer your swarm around before it diminishes in power to the point where it can't kill an equivalent point costed super ship.

I imagine that running 4 TIEs with something at 52 points would just leave with with an unwinnable game after you've traded your 52 point thing for their fat turret and you have to kill Corran now.

I pity the way you view the game. Things are not quite as dire as you have said.

I do quite well with 6 of them and a shuttle.

LOVE ALL OF THESE SHIPS...

;)

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Ran Winged Gundark and Dark Curse (who has always been my favorite tie pilot) today. Both did pretty well! Winged Gundark is pretty good with the emperor where you can stack mutliple crits on ships like the Falcon. Its the first time I've found him good.

Otherwise the only tie pilot I never fly is Mauler Mithel....but thats probably just me.

I don't play super competitively, just local stuff but I think the Tie is still just fine.

I am running a 7 tie list tonight at my flgs. Howlrunner w/ stealth, backstabber, 2 x academy, 3 x obsidian :)

It's the baseline ship that pretty much every other ship is evaluated by.

They are little little monsters in untimed no MOV games if you know what they're doing.

They haven't seen an upgrade for what? 3 years now (is this game really only that old?). They are still the Sharks.

I LOVE TIE FIGHTERS!

:lol:

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That's not love! That's...something else. Probably hate.

Ran Winged Gundark and Dark Curse (who has always been my favorite tie pilot) today. Both did pretty well! Winged Gundark is pretty good with the emperor where you can stack mutliple crits on ships like the Falcon. Its the first time I've found him good.

Otherwise the only tie pilot I never fly is Mauler Mithel....but thats probably just me.

@"Winged Gundark": Awesome!

@"Mauler Mithel": Nope, it's not just you. I have a heck of a time making him worth the points.

They haven't seen an upgrade for what? 3 years now (is this game really only that old?). They are still the Sharks.

Piranha, I'd say. They are mediocre by themselves, but in a swarm, they will devour you.

I LOVE TIE FIGHTERS!

:lol:

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That's not love! That's...something else. Probably hate.

Ran Winged Gundark and Dark Curse (who has always been my favorite tie pilot) today. Both did pretty well! Winged Gundark is pretty good with the emperor where you can stack mutliple crits on ships like the Falcon. Its the first time I've found him good.

Otherwise the only tie pilot I never fly is Mauler Mithel....but thats probably just me.

@"Winged Gundark": Awesome!

@"Mauler Mithel": Nope, it's not just you. I have a heck of a time making him worth the points.

Nahhh...

:)

In a casual game without time limits or MoV, they're still viable. In tournaments, not so much.

They do certainly feel underpowered, and the popularity of high def pilots like Soontir, IG 88's, and Corran has made them far less reliable than before.

With that said, they're still great blockers, and Howlrunner is an incredible force multiplier that Z95 swarms lack - and I've seen those have some success.

I can't understand why a lot of players think that the Tie Fighter isn't good but z-95 is good fillers in rebels/scum list. Z95 have shields, but Tie have evade and barrel roll.