Yeah the question isn't how many factions are there IMO. It is how many factions have enough fighter and freighter models to be an effective faction in X-Wing. And the answer is not many. There are tons of smaller factions out there but most of these only have one or two fighter models. It would be easier to blend these in with an existing faction rather then make them a standalone faction IMO.

There is only one faction and it is Imperial.

Objectively false, good DAY sir.

Then we would have USA - Rebels, Soviet Union - Empire and China - Vong

Right?

You gotta admit the stereotypes fit and the writers of the original movies were influenced this way. Even Ronald Reagan refered to the Soviets as the "Evil Empire"

I don't think those were the influences at all.

If anything, it seems like a mix of different influences:

• The Rebels speak American English, the Empire officers speak Brittish English. This clearly is a reference to the american independence war.
• The Rebels are an amalgamation of systems and races, with humans, and multitude of aliens fighting together for freedom in snubfighters, their colors being lively and warm. The Empire is gray or black and white, uniforms are dark and stylish, troops are fanatical, faceless, and a single race. It's a clear reference to the Allies versus the Nazis.
• The Rebels were few and hidden in forests, doing guerrilla war against a greater imperialistic war machine. By the time the first movie was made, the Vietnam and Korea wars still resonated within the creative minds in USA, and the underdog local guerrillas had the sympathies of the intellectuals, versus the American "invader" imperialistic army. The rebels are the Vietcong, the Empire is the USA. (This is expressed so by Lucas in the DVD edition extras).

Now that you mention Reagan, he has his own character (and faction) in Star Wars. As expressed by Lucas in the Episode I extras, the Trade Federation is a representation of the corporate and neocon lobbies trying to overcome democracy on "backwater planets" (read, countries) for profit, and challenge democratic power on their own country by lobbying and bribing the courts and high civil servants.

As the head of all of this is viceroy Gunray (swap both syllables and you get Reagan).

Could FFG introduce another faction at some point?

Hopefully not. The current 3 ones are pretty enough for a timespan of more than 40 years (Resistance = Rebellion; First Order = Empire; Scum = always Scum).

However, if the prequel stuff was included (please don't), we would need 2 new factions; the Galactic Republic and the CIS.

PS: there is a "thing" that could be introduced (God no) someday as a completely new faction: the Vong.

Actually, you wouldn't need new factions. Seppies are rebels and the Republic becomes the Empire.

The Seppies are just the "bad" rebels and the Republic is just the "good" Empire.

It wouldn't surprise me if much of the rebel Alliance is made up of former Seppies, particularly early on - people who simply couldn't or wouldn't put away their blasters after Vader decapitated their government.

Then we would have USA - Rebels, Soviet Union - Empire and China - Vong

Right?

You gotta admit the stereotypes fit and the writers of the original movies were influenced this way. Even Ronald Reagan refered to the Soviets as the "Evil Empire"

I don't think those were the influences at all.

If anything, it seems like a mix of different influences:

• The Rebels speak American English, the Empire officers speak Brittish English. This clearly is a reference to the american independence war.
• The Rebels are an amalgamation of systems and races, with humans, and multitude of aliens fighting together for freedom in snubfighters, their colors being lively and warm. The Empire is gray or black and white, uniforms are dark and stylish, troops are fanatical, faceless, and a single race. It's a clear reference to the Allies versus the Nazis.
• The Rebels were few and hidden in forests, doing guerrilla war against a greater imperialistic war machine. By the time the first movie was made, the Vietnam and Korea wars still resonated within the creative minds in USA, and the underdog local guerrillas had the sympathies of the intellectuals, versus the American "invader" imperialistic army. The rebels are the Vietcong, the Empire is the USA. (This is expressed so by Lucas in the DVD edition extras).

Now that you mention Reagan, he has his own character (and faction) in Star Wars. As expressed by Lucas in the Episode I extras, the Trade Federation is a representation of the corporate and neocon lobbies trying to overcome democracy on "backwater planets" (read, countries) for profit, and challenge democratic power on their own country by lobbying and bribing the courts and high civil servants.

As the head of all of this is viceroy Gunray (swap both syllables and you get Reagan).

I get Ray Gun. Like the Buck Rogers ray gun. Reagan is more Ray-gihn. At least to me.

It all comes down to 3 factions.

Light Side

Dark Side

Other

All the different names for the political entities are just denotes the time period.

Yuuzhan Vong

Why are you posting pictures of Kroot in a Star Wars thread?

Could FFG introduce another faction at some point?

Hopefully not. The current 3 ones are pretty enough for a timespan of more than 40 years (Resistance = Rebellion; First Order = Empire; Scum = always Scum).

However, if the prequel stuff was included (please don't), we would need 2 new factions; the Galactic Republic and the CIS.

PS: there is a "thing" that could be introduced (God no) someday as a completely new faction: the Vong.

Actually, you wouldn't need new factions. Seppies are rebels and the Republic becomes the Empire.

The Seppies are just the "bad" rebels and the Republic is just the "good" Empire.

It wouldn't surprise me if much of the rebel Alliance is made up of former Seppies, particularly early on - people who simply couldn't or wouldn't put away their blasters after Vader decapitated their government.

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Given who the Republic head of state is I wouldn't exactly call it good...

And in Eu/Legends while there are still remnants of the CIS active in the GCW era very few of them actually joined the Rebel Alliance because the Alliance leadership required any former CIS members who wished to join the Alliance to publicly acknowledge that the Separatist cause was wrong. Most of the time the CIS holdouts and the Alliance forces stayed out of each other's way but their were some areas where the GCW was a three way fight between the Empire, the Alliance, and CIS holdout forces.

Yuuzhan Vong

There is only one faction and it is Imperial.

The truth has been spoken!

It all comes down to 3 factions.

Light Side

Dark Side

Other

All the different names for the political entities are just denotes the time period.

The only problem with that theory is that in the Clone Wars era, the Dark Side was running BOTH sides.

It all comes down to 3 factions.

Light Side

Dark Side

Other

All the different names for the political entities are just denotes the time period.

The only problem with that theory is that in the Clone Wars era, the Dark Side was running BOTH sides.

No problem. FFG is never gonna put out CW stuff anyway.

I would like to see a Confederacy of Independent Systems faction, we could pretend there were still pockets of separatists that escaped the end of the war and are holding out somewhere. But I doubt we will ever see Droid sts fighters in this game. Shame too, Grevious' ship was cool and the Magna Guards/Cad bane's fighters were cool too. Cross over CIS/scum! Oh, dare to dream.

I would like to see a Confederacy of Independent Systems faction, we could pretend there were still pockets of separatists that escaped the end of the war and are holding out somewhere.

I doubt that's even necessary. The Seperatists had their own parliament and everything. It's likely once they lost the Clone War, they were simply forced back into the Empire as regular worlds.

Once the Emperor died, they may have simply decided to try and secede again.

And knowing how Star Wars works, Lux Bonteri would probably end up being their leader. Of course, he'd be, like, in his 60s now.

Technically there are thousands of factions, the only thing is they can be all safely lumped into 3.

Vong don't count. Vong didn't exist. lalala not listening.

I think they could do 5 that don't suck. But the new movies would have to set them up. Rebel/Republic, Empire, Seperatist/Corporate, Mandalorian, Crime Cartels.

I would like to see a Confederacy of Independent Systems faction, we could pretend there were still pockets of separatists that escaped the end of the war and are holding out somewhere.

I doubt that's even necessary. The Seperatists had their own parliament and everything. It's likely once they lost the Clone War, they were simply forced back into the Empire as regular worlds.

Once the Emperor died, they may have simply decided to try and secede again.

And knowing how Star Wars works, Lux Bonteri would probably end up being their leader. Of course, he'd be, like, in his 60s now.

In both canon and Legends there were CIS holdouts that kept fighting after the war officially ended. In canon it appears they were gone within four years but in Legends while the major groups fell within a few years there were smaller groups still fighting during the GW era. While most tried to stay out of the Alliance's way there were some that fought both the Empire and the Alliance. And its possible that some of the canon holdouts actually survived past the four year mark but the Empire didn't consider the remaining groups worth the effort to mount major campaigns against.

Spies and Smugglers would be a good idea for a new Faction.

No, it wouldn't. Many of the pilots that would be included in an LCG-style light-side unaligned faction are already printed as either Rebels or S&V; it's clear that in X-wing, Spies and Smugglers is really unlikely to happen.

No, it wouldn't. Many of the pilots that would be included in an LCG-style light-side unaligned faction are already printed as either Rebels or S&V; it's clear that in X-wing, Spies and Smugglers is really unlikely to happen.

This. People take the name "Scum & Villainy" too literally. When the faction is really just "Non-Rebel Criminals and Privateers".

New factions are technically possible, but unnecessary out of the Empire, Rebel, Other bracket.

You could add the herpes consortium, with their mai tai fighters(all destroyed by the tyranid "doom of mai tais") the falleen federation, possibly even some sith or mandalorian offshoot.

Ultimately, were there any galactic powers significant enough in the GCW? The answer is "yes, and scum are the catch all for all of them".

Ultimately, were there any galactic powers significant enough in the GCW? The answer is "yes, and scum are the catch all for all of them".

Well. considering I don't think any of the ones you mentioned exist anymore in the canon besides the Mandalorians, I'd say no.

The Seps will rise again!

Seriously, though, a scum faction droid starfighter or Assault Gunship would be pretty cool leftover from the Clone Wars would be fun to see.

Ultimately, were there any galactic powers significant enough in the GCW? The answer is "yes, and scum are the catch all for all of them".

Well. considering I don't think any of the ones you mentioned exist anymore in the canon besides the Mandalorians, I'd say no.

:mantra: Legends canon is official canon unless it has been overwritten by a newer source. :mantra:

But yes, even so who cares about Hapes? Though... Some good history of scraps with the Galactic Empire there.

No, it wouldn't. Many of the pilots that would be included in an LCG-style light-side unaligned faction are already printed as either Rebels or S&V; it's clear that in X-wing, Spies and Smugglers is really unlikely to happen.

This. People take the name "Scum & Villainy" too literally. When the faction is really just "Non-Rebel Criminals and Privateers".

Villainy as in gangsters, bounty hunters, and the rest of the criminal element that is not as inclined to work with the Alliance to Restore the Republic and operates under the blind eye of the First Galactic Empire.

It's pretty literal. Pirates and criminals. Just not organized like the Rebels and not 'legit' like the Empire.

That being said, Corperate Sector Authoriy would make a great faction and alternative to the Empire, as well as the Seperatists providing an alternative to the Rebels. Neither will ever be made unless this game goes on for 20 years and they really need to mine deep and pump out some nostalgic ships.

Alternatively, if new canon puts a reasonable faction with significant clout to stand alone into the GCW, we could see that.

That being said, Corperate Sector Authoriy would make a great faction and alternative to the Empire...

I was coming here to post this very thing. They were the staple villain of Brian Daley's Han Solo books, and the employed a lot of out-dated Imperial technology that would look familiar enough to be recognizable but different enough to be distinct from the actual Imperial faction.

Chiss

Vong

Hapes

Collective

Pirates that arent aligned with the Black Sun or the Hutts

Imperial Renegade Fleets (post GCW)

There are plenty.