Also, one question that came up that I wasn't entirely sure of - when you roll for damage from running over an Asteroid, can Palpatine change it?

Yes, Palpatine can change any friendly die roll once a turn, so you could use him for that purpose.

As with anything the more you play the better you'll get.

I've seen a Palpatine squad here that's been doing very well:

Vader (29) w/Vet Instincts (1), Engine Upgrade (4), TIE/x1 (0), ATC (1) - 35

Soontir Fel (27) w/PTL (3), Royal Guard (0), Stealth Device (3), Autothrusters (2) - 35

Omicron Group Pilot (21) w/Emperor Palpatine (8)

Once a phase. So once during activation, once during combat, etc.

Autothrusters are 2 points, as well.

Once a phase. So once during activation, once during combat, etc.

Nope, Palpatine is once per turn:

Autothrusters are 2 points, as well.

Ah, thanks. Cut and paste but didn't change the cost....total was correct.

Once a phase. So once during activation, once during combat, etc.

Nope, Palpatine is once per turn:

Autothrusters are 2 points, as well.

Ah, thanks. Cut and paste but didn't change the cost....total was correct.

I totally had to go back and look at the card again - I was like, "Once per PHASE?!!!!"

Nicely flown. Your comment about your opponents is spot on - the X-wing community is one of the nicest I've come across, and I've never met anyone I didn't enjoy playing

Also, one question that came up that I wasn't entirely sure of - when you roll for damage from running over an Asteroid, can Palpatine change it?

Yes, Palpatine can change any friendly die roll once a turn, so you could use him for that purpose.As with anything the more you play the better you'll get.I've seen a Palpatine squad here that's been doing very well:Vader (29) w/Vet Instincts (1), Engine Upgrade (4), TIE/x1 (0), ATC (1) - 35Soontir Fel (27) w/PTL (3), Royal Guard (0), Stealth Device (3), Autothrusters (2) - 35Omicron Group Pilot (21) w/Emperor Palpatine (8)

An asteroid is not a friendly ship. Palpatine cannot change the die roll

Also, one question that came up that I wasn't entirely sure of - when you roll for damage from running over an Asteroid, can Palpatine change it?

Yes, Palpatine can change any friendly die roll once a turn, so you could use him for that purpose.As with anything the more you play the better you'll get.I've seen a Palpatine squad here that's been doing very well:Vader (29) w/Vet Instincts (1), Engine Upgrade (4), TIE/x1 (0), ATC (1) - 35Soontir Fel (27) w/PTL (3), Royal Guard (0), Stealth Device (3), Autothrusters (2) - 35Omicron Group Pilot (21) w/Emperor Palpatine (8)

An asteroid is not a friendly ship. Palpatine cannot change the die roll

Incorrect. The asteroid is not making the die roll to do damage. It's the friendly ship making the die roll to avoid damage. The result of this die roll, made by a friendly ship, can be affected by Palpatine's ability.

Why Predator on Vessery? You have two ships that can provide him TLs, I just don't see the point of being able to re-roll dice with Predator. Especially with Palpy in the squad. Too bad you can't fit Engine Upgrade in there on Vader.

Did the guy playing Advanced Sensors on Vader play it right? If you Advanced Sensor on Vader you cannot perform two actions. You skip the "Perform Action Step" and his ability. Advanced Sensors is really the worst card you can run on Vader.

Glad you had fun. Every tournament is a great learning experience.

Also, one question that came up that I wasn't entirely sure of - when you roll for damage from running over an Asteroid, can Palpatine change it?

Yes, Palpatine can change any friendly die roll once a turn, so you could use him for that purpose.As with anything the more you play the better you'll get.I've seen a Palpatine squad here that's been doing very well:Vader (29) w/Vet Instincts (1), Engine Upgrade (4), TIE/x1 (0), ATC (1) - 35Soontir Fel (27) w/PTL (3), Royal Guard (0), Stealth Device (3), Autothrusters (2) - 35Omicron Group Pilot (21) w/Emperor Palpatine (8)

An asteroid is not a friendly ship. Palpatine cannot change the die roll

Incorrect. The asteroid is not making the die roll to do damage. It's the friendly ship making the die roll to avoid damage. The result of this die roll, made by a friendly ship, can be affected by Palpatine's ability.

You are right, but the dice which should be rolled are greens in this case. I wish they would change the rules... It is much easier to fdp with an interceptor than a decimator, for instance.

Also, one question that came up that I wasn't entirely sure of - when you roll for damage from running over an Asteroid, can Palpatine change it?

Yes, Palpatine can change any friendly die roll once a turn, so you could use him for that purpose.As with anything the more you play the better you'll get.I've seen a Palpatine squad here that's been doing very well:Vader (29) w/Vet Instincts (1), Engine Upgrade (4), TIE/x1 (0), ATC (1) - 35Soontir Fel (27) w/PTL (3), Royal Guard (0), Stealth Device (3), Autothrusters (2) - 35Omicron Group Pilot (21) w/Emperor Palpatine (8)

An asteroid is not a friendly ship. Palpatine cannot change the die roll

Incorrect. The asteroid is not making the die roll to do damage. It's the friendly ship making the die roll to avoid damage. The result of this die roll, made by a friendly ship, can be affected by Palpatine's ability.

You are right, but the dice which should be rolled are greens in this case. I wish they would change the rules... It is much easier to fdp with an interceptor than a decimator, for instance.

Why would you use defense dice when the rules specifically say to use a single attack die?

Also, one question that came up that I wasn't entirely sure of - when you roll for damage from running over an Asteroid, can Palpatine change it?

Yes, Palpatine can change any friendly die roll once a turn, so you could use him for that purpose.As with anything the more you play the better you'll get.I've seen a Palpatine squad here that's been doing very well:Vader (29) w/Vet Instincts (1), Engine Upgrade (4), TIE/x1 (0), ATC (1) - 35Soontir Fel (27) w/PTL (3), Royal Guard (0), Stealth Device (3), Autothrusters (2) - 35Omicron Group Pilot (21) w/Emperor Palpatine (8)

An asteroid is not a friendly ship. Palpatine cannot change the die roll

Incorrect. The asteroid is not making the die roll to do damage. It's the friendly ship making the die roll to avoid damage. The result of this die roll, made by a friendly ship, can be affected by Palpatine's ability.

You are right, but the dice which should be rolled are greens in this case. I wish they would change the rules... It is much easier to fdp with an interceptor than a decimator, for instance.

Why would you use defense dice when the rules specifically say to use a single attack die?

What do you think makes more sense?

Also, one question that came up that I wasn't entirely sure of - when you roll for damage from running over an Asteroid, can Palpatine change it?

Yes, Palpatine can change any friendly die roll once a turn, so you could use him for that purpose.As with anything the more you play the better you'll get.I've seen a Palpatine squad here that's been doing very well:Vader (29) w/Vet Instincts (1), Engine Upgrade (4), TIE/x1 (0), ATC (1) - 35Soontir Fel (27) w/PTL (3), Royal Guard (0), Stealth Device (3), Autothrusters (2) - 35Omicron Group Pilot (21) w/Emperor Palpatine (8)

An asteroid is not a friendly ship. Palpatine cannot change the die roll

Incorrect. The asteroid is not making the die roll to do damage. It's the friendly ship making the die roll to avoid damage. The result of this die roll, made by a friendly ship, can be affected by Palpatine's ability.

You are right, but the dice which should be rolled are greens in this case. I wish they would change the rules... It is much easier to fdp with an interceptor than a decimator, for instance.

Why would you use defense dice when the rules specifically say to use a single attack die?

What do you think makes more sense?

The way we've been playing since the original core set came out and according to the rules contained within.

Why Predator on Vessery? You have two ships that can provide him TLs, I just don't see the point of being able to re-roll dice with Predator. Especially with Palpy in the squad. Too bad you can't fit Engine Upgrade in there on Vader.

Did the guy playing Advanced Sensors on Vader play it right? If you Advanced Sensor on Vader you cannot perform two actions. You skip the "Perform Action Step" and his ability. Advanced Sensors is really the worst card you can run on Vader.

Glad you had fun. Every tournament is a great learning experience.

He didn't at first, someone pointed it out later. I didn't know either, and he changed it up right away. The only other big mistake any of my opponents made was they took the wrong ship off the board when one was destroyed, and neither of us realised until the next turn - we talked to the judged, and agreed to just replace the destroyed ship with the mistakenly removed one.

As for Predator, I was choosing between that and the title on the Shuttle, and part of it was me forgetting that you can only reroll once.

Also, one question that came up that I wasn't entirely sure of - when you roll for damage from running over an Asteroid, can Palpatine change it?

Yes, Palpatine can change any friendly die roll once a turn, so you could use him for that purpose.As with anything the more you play the better you'll get.I've seen a Palpatine squad here that's been doing very well:Vader (29) w/Vet Instincts (1), Engine Upgrade (4), TIE/x1 (0), ATC (1) - 35Soontir Fel (27) w/PTL (3), Royal Guard (0), Stealth Device (3), Autothrusters (2) - 35Omicron Group Pilot (21) w/Emperor Palpatine (8)

An asteroid is not a friendly ship. Palpatine cannot change the die roll

Incorrect. The asteroid is not making the die roll to do damage. It's the friendly ship making the die roll to avoid damage. The result of this die roll, made by a friendly ship, can be affected by Palpatine's ability.

You are right, but the dice which should be rolled are greens in this case. I wish they would change the rules... It is much easier to fdp with an interceptor than a decimator, for instance.

Why would you use defense dice when the rules specifically say to use a single attack die?

What do you think makes more sense?

The way we've been playing since the original core set came out and according to the rules contained within.

Oh, sure. It makes more sense just to roll a die where you have a 50% chance of getting hit or a crit on any given situation, instead of having it easier for smaller, agile ships and harder for big and cumbersome ships to dodge asteroids. Tap yourself on the back and repeat the rules mantra one more time, will you? Cheers

I would run this:

Darth Vader (29)
Lone Wolf (2)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)
Engine Upgrade (4)
TIE/x1 (0)

Colonel Vessery (35)

Omicron Group Pilot (21)
Emperor Palpatine (8)

Total: 100

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Vessery really doesn't need anything. At most MKIIs when they become available, but he's still useful stressed. Between Lone Wolf and the Emperor, Vader should be really hard to take down.

Also, one question that came up that I wasn't entirely sure of - when you roll for damage from running over an Asteroid, can Palpatine change it?

Yes, Palpatine can change any friendly die roll once a turn, so you could use him for that purpose.As with anything the more you play the better you'll get.I've seen a Palpatine squad here that's been doing very well:Vader (29) w/Vet Instincts (1), Engine Upgrade (4), TIE/x1 (0), ATC (1) - 35Soontir Fel (27) w/PTL (3), Royal Guard (0), Stealth Device (3), Autothrusters (2) - 35Omicron Group Pilot (21) w/Emperor Palpatine (8)

An asteroid is not a friendly ship. Palpatine cannot change the die roll

Incorrect. The asteroid is not making the die roll to do damage. It's the friendly ship making the die roll to avoid damage. The result of this die roll, made by a friendly ship, can be affected by Palpatine's ability.

You are right, but the dice which should be rolled are greens in this case. I wish they would change the rules... It is much easier to fdp with an interceptor than a decimator, for instance.

Why would you use defense dice when the rules specifically say to use a single attack die?

What do you think makes more sense?

The way we've been playing since the original core set came out and according to the rules contained within.

Oh, sure. It makes more sense just to roll a die where you have a 50% chance of getting hit or a crit on any given situation, instead of having it easier for smaller, agile ships and harder for big and cumbersome ships to dodge asteroids. Tap yourself on the back and repeat the rules mantra one more time, will you? Cheers

Wow, you really hurt my feelings with that reply....no, wait, that was just gas. Do yourself a favor and go sit in the corner with your juice box and leave game design to the professionals.

Also, one question that came up that I wasn't entirely sure of - when you roll for damage from running over an Asteroid, can Palpatine change it?

Yes, Palpatine can change any friendly die roll once a turn, so you could use him for that purpose.As with anything the more you play the better you'll get.I've seen a Palpatine squad here that's been doing very well:Vader (29) w/Vet Instincts (1), Engine Upgrade (4), TIE/x1 (0), ATC (1) - 35Soontir Fel (27) w/PTL (3), Royal Guard (0), Stealth Device (3), Autothrusters (2) - 35Omicron Group Pilot (21) w/Emperor Palpatine (8)

An asteroid is not a friendly ship. Palpatine cannot change the die roll

Incorrect. The asteroid is not making the die roll to do damage. It's the friendly ship making the die roll to avoid damage. The result of this die roll, made by a friendly ship, can be affected by Palpatine's ability.

You are right, but the dice which should be rolled are greens in this case. I wish they would change the rules... It is much easier to fdp with an interceptor than a decimator, for instance.

Why would you use defense dice when the rules specifically say to use a single attack die?

What do you think makes more sense?

The way we've been playing since the original core set came out and according to the rules contained within.

Oh, sure. It makes more sense just to roll a die where you have a 50% chance of getting hit or a crit on any given situation, instead of having it easier for smaller, agile ships and harder for big and cumbersome ships to dodge asteroids. Tap yourself on the back and repeat the rules mantra one more time, will you? Cheers

Wow, you really hurt my feelings with that reply....no, wait, that was just gas. Do yourself a favor and go sit in the corner with your juice box and leave game design to the professionals.

That's a really constructive reply. I now totally get why it should be just an attack die. Thanks for enlighting me, and sorry if I hurt your feelings. You are clearly a pro. *goes back to the corner with juice box*

I have no idea why they made the rules for obstacles the way they did or why it has your panties in a twist. Hey, here's a great idea. Why don't you ask the people who actually made the rules and not some anonymous person on the forums? I'm sure they'll give your really important question the time it truly deserves.

Since you guys successfully derailed this BATREP thread, I think I know why they went with the asteroid rules the way they did.

First, its really simple. Roll over a rock, you roll 1 dice and take any hits. Not hard to remember and fairly quick to sort out.

Now it doesn't make all that much sense from a fluff stand point. Won't a Tie have an easier time dodging a rock instead of a shuttle? Well yes. However, if they went by agility, IE you roll your agility value and if you roll an evade you avoid the rock, it will trivialize obstacles. 3 agility ships wouldn't really have to worry about obstacles much at all. Yeah you might lose your action, but the threat of damage would drop significantly.

You can always play with house rules as well.

I have no idea why they made the rules for obstacles the way they did or why it has your panties in a twist. Hey, here's a great idea. Why don't you ask the people who actually made the rules and not some anonymous person on the forums? I'm sure they'll give your really important question the time it truly deserves.

When I asked what made more sense you simply answered what was stated in the rules, then got angry because I asked you to tap yourself on the back for it? Come on. In any case, my point was made, so I will let this go now.

Jo Jo, I take responsibility for derailing the thread, and apologize to the OP for it.

I have no idea why they made the rules for obstacles the way they did or why it has your panties in a twist. Hey, here's a great idea. Why don't you ask the people who actually made the rules and not some anonymous person on the forums? I'm sure they'll give your really important question the time it truly deserves.

When I asked what made more sense you simply answered what was stated in the rules, then got angry because I asked you to tap yourself on the back for it? Come on. In any case, my point was made, so I will let this go now.

Jo Jo, I take responsibility for derailing the thread, and apologize to the OP for it.

Ok, so we both thought the other got worked up. Let's move on.