What do you think the likelihood of having a sourcebook for F&D that specifically covers different Force traditions other than the Jedi? Have a few species (like the Dathomiri), related planets, related equipment and ships, some advice to players and GMs on building PCs and stories about these fringe groups, throw in some modular encounters that feature them. I think the content is there, at least.

Most likely those will be covered in a region book or with in the career books.

S'what I was getting at. Although is it really accurate to call them region books anymore? Sure, two of three cover specific regions of space, but Strongholds of Resistance is pretty spread out... Maybe like galaxy books? Neo galaxy guides?

I think speculating about the likelihood of any unannounced product is kind of a waste of time. However, I think that a force traditions book would be a good idea, or at least an interesting idea. I think there's plenty of room to flesh out the 3 traditions provided (Dathomiri witches, Baran Do sages, Gagoyan masters), plus you could cover...

un/official WEG-sourced trash:

• Aing-Tii Monks
• Teepo Paladins

WotC-sourced trash:

• Zeison Sha
• Matukai

Just stupid OLD trash:

• Revwien force adepts

Bad EU trash:

• Jensaarai
• Kilian (Antarian?) Rangers*

... Nevermind, this is a horrible idea. Let this stuff die, burn the bodies, and let something *good* grow from the ashes.

JK... ish. Seriously, though, it's not a bad idea, but on review of the material they'd have to work with... I think it'd be a much better idea to just slowly flesh out new force tradions with various splat books like Daeglan described. The only traditions I'd really want added to the three in the core book would be Gand Findsmen and the Jensaarai, and these could both be handled well in other supplements.

Hell, it might give me a reason go get the other supplements.

I think speculating about the likelihood of any unannounced product is kind of a waste of time. However, I think that a force traditions book would be a good idea, or at least an interesting idea. I think there's plenty of room to flesh out the 3 traditions provided (Dathomiri witches, Baran Do sages, Gagoyan masters), plus you could cover...

un/official WEG-sourced trash:

• Aing-Tii Monks
• Teepo Paladins

WotC-sourced trash:

• Zeison Sha
• Matukai

Just stupid OLD trash:

• Revwien force adepts

Bad EU trash:

• Jensaarai
• Kilian (Antarian?) Rangers*

... Nevermind, this is a horrible idea. Let this stuff die, burn the bodies, and let something *good* grow from the ashes.

JK... ish. Seriously, though, it's not a bad idea, but on review of the material they'd have to work with... I think it'd be a much better idea to just slowly flesh out new force tradions with various splat books like Daeglan described. The only traditions I'd really want added to the three in the core book would be Gand Findsmen and the Jensaarai, and these could both be handled well in other supplements.

Hell, it might give me a reason go get the other supplements.

Give me a book with Revwien force traditions and rules for the species, add i'll be a happy camper.

Be interesting if one of the "Region" books did stuff on the sector rangers and their relationship with the Jedi.

What do you think the likelihood of having a sourcebook for F&D that specifically covers different Force traditions other than the Jedi? Have a few species (like the Dathomiri), related planets, related equipment and ships, some advice to players and GMs on building PCs and stories about these fringe groups, throw in some modular encounters that feature them. I think the content is there, at least.

I don't know how they'll do them, but I expect to see them published. They might be placed in Career books as options, as I have trouble thinking up extra specializations for the Force careers. Or they might appear in region books (more probable). But I'm sure we'll see them. Dathomir witches, Bardota sages as definites to begin.

I don't think they will give us explicitly named force traditions, especially from the EU, but they will give us the way to build them anyway. So we will not get the Jensaarai spec, but the new Armorer spec announced in the Guardian splatbook sounds like a good way to build one.

I guess the Consular or Mystic splatbook will give us a spec which can fit a Dathomir witch description.

I don't know about that... the Baran Do Sages are listed on Dorin for the Kel Dor. Even how their traditions are styled... let me see if I can find that...

The Baran Do Sages

An ancient order of seers that grew out of a necessity to predict lethal storms, the Baran Do helped govern Dorin until its discovery by the Republic. Eventually, the sages faded to the background of Dorin society. The marginalization of the Baran Do is the only reason they escaped destruction during Order 66.

Those offered a permanent home with the Baran Do learn to use the Force through the lens of the natural elements. The Sages organize their Force techniques into three categories: the Hassat-Birr, Hassat-Durr and Hassat-Worl, or the guided wind, lightning and stream. The Sages are not militant, though many train in the martial arts. The quarterstaff is popular among the Baran Do, as the walking stick is a common sight in the face of Dorin’s strong winds.

So, that gives me a description to go on... not sure if that is totally what you were looking for, but to me it hints at other options with maybe more to come. It certainly is not a specialization, but that doesn't mean you couldn't make it one or style what you perceive to be Hassat-Birr with an existing talent tree.

I don't know about that... the Baran Do Sages are listed on Dorin for the Kel Dor. Even how their traditions are styled... let me see if I can find that...

The Baran Do Sages

An ancient order of seers that grew out of a necessity to predict lethal storms, the Baran Do helped govern Dorin until its discovery by the Republic. Eventually, the sages faded to the background of Dorin society. The marginalization of the Baran Do is the only reason they escaped destruction during Order 66.

Those offered a permanent home with the Baran Do learn to use the Force through the lens of the natural elements. The Sages organize their Force techniques into three categories: the Hassat-Birr, Hassat-Durr and Hassat-Worl, or the guided wind, lightning and stream. The Sages are not militant, though many train in the martial arts. The quarterstaff is popular among the Baran Do, as the walking stick is a common sight in the face of Dorin’s strong winds.

So, that gives me a description to go on... not sure if that is totally what you were looking for, but to me it hints at other options with maybe more to come. It certainly is not a specialization, but that doesn't mean you couldn't make it one or style what you perceive to be Hassat-Birr with an existing talent tree.

Lords of Nal Hutta has an entire chapter just on the history of the Hutt clans, or the majority of a chapter, as well as planet pages with details on their history, geography and unique adversaries. I was not thinking a book of specs , but something like what I just mentioned dedicated to non-Jedi/Sith Force traditions, to both give a GM the backstory to incorporate the in his game and give players more options in designing their character background other than ' discovered the Force, seeking Jedi secrets, avoiding the Empire'. Specific groups (Witches of Dathomir, Order of Shasa) and their histories and traditions, and associated planets (Dathomir, Manaan), and so on.

You know you could just pick 3 force powers and then design a tradition around them to fit a particular idea you have as a background element for your game.

I wonder how the players would react if they got that chance?

Good Stuff

Night Sisters (Everyone wants to Ride a Rancor)

Green Jedi (Corellian Jedi is the way we Roll Yo)

Baran Do Sages (Elemental Powers Rule!!!)

I know I'm forgetting one.

Besides I want a Big Book of Sith.

You know you could just pick 3 force powers and then design a tradition around them to fit a particular idea you have as a background element for your game.

I wonder how the players would react if they got that chance?

Well, this would work for some GMs, that as you point our are looking for a fit for a particular idea. However other GMs want to use material that's already been published in the *hundreds* of sources that already exist for the SW universe. If a GM wants to incorporate Corellian Jedi or Baran Do sages, it would be great if they had a useful, summarized resource in the RPG books to support so they can be as accurate as they want to be without having to sift through 40 years of material looking for snippets of data on what they want.

Sure, we can all create custom systems for our games, but all those games are taking place within an already well fleshed-out universe. It's nice to use that when you can.

Honestly there's so little about the Corellian jedi that FFG would be making up most of what they write (in the old WEG style), so i guess a good GM can do the work himself, actually the corellian jedi shouldn't be so hard to define as they have only small (but substantial) differences from the main order. My guid in SWTOR is actually dong that as some of us play green jedi, so i have an idea of what it takes.

But i agree that a RPG book that supports building different traditions (or creating your own tradition) would be nice.

I think speculating about the likelihood of any unannounced product is kind of a waste of time. However, I think that a force traditions book would be a good idea, or at least an interesting idea. I think there's plenty of room to flesh out the 3 traditions provided (Dathomiri witches, Baran Do sages, Gagoyan masters), plus you could cover...

un/official WEG-sourced trash:

• Aing-Tii Monks
• Teepo Paladins

WotC-sourced trash:

• Zeison Sha
• Matukai

Just stupid OLD trash:

• Revwien force adepts

Bad EU trash:

• Jensaarai
• Kilian (Antarian?) Rangers*

... Nevermind, this is a horrible idea. Let this stuff die, burn the bodies, and let something *good* grow from the ashes.

JK... ish. Seriously, though, it's not a bad idea, but on review of the material they'd have to work with... I think it'd be a much better idea to just slowly flesh out new force tradions with various splat books like Daeglan described. The only traditions I'd really want added to the three in the core book would be Gand Findsmen and the Jensaarai, and these could both be handled well in other supplements.

Hell, it might give me a reason go get the other supplements.

But you've left out the most powerful of all the non-Jedi farce traditions, the Teras Kasi Masters

https://youtu.be/-_KYAnC7tbM?t=4m24s

^Sweep the leg, Chewie. SWEEP THE LEG!!!

(Tryin to keep this spoiler-free)

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There was some stuff a few days ago when Entertainment Weekly posted their new pics. Info about Kylo Ren. I bet well see some stuff related to that.

... most powerful of all the non-Jedi farce traditions...

Well played, sir, well played.