Just to get it straight: If I take a Y-wing with Twin Laser Turret and the BTL-A4 upgrade, I can attack three times within my firing arc? 
triple attack?
Only at range two and three, but yes you are correct.
Nice with Horton.
Not sure if Kavil will prefer that or the autoblaster...
Only at range two and three, but yes you are correct.
Sweet!
Nice with Horton.
Not sure if Kavil will prefer that or the autoblaster...
Kavil prefers not to use the BTL-A4 title at all.
Horton Salm + BTL-A4 + Twin laser turret = 3 attacks with rerolls at range 2-3.
Good deal of action for 31 points 
throw in stress bot and that is just ridiculous
throw in stress bot and that is just ridiculous
But then your only greens are 1 & 2. Sounds bad to me, but I've never flown a Bacon Lettuce Tomato Y-Wing without R2
Edited by Scojothrow in stress bot and that is just ridiculous
But then your only greens are 1 & 2. Sounds bad to me, but I've never flown a Bacon Lettuce Tomato Y-Wing without R2
throw in stress bot and that is just ridiculous
But then your only greens are 1 & 2. Sounds bad to me, but I've never flown a Bacon Lettuce Tomato Y-Wing without R2
You are missing out. The 'Stress Hog' is a horrible thing to face. When piloting it you just got to resign yourself to the fact that your poor Y-wing will never action again, but that's okay. Your opponents best ship will be crippled with 3+ stress tokens. I wouldn't use it on any named pilot but on a generic Y its really good. Now with TLT you have the ability to double stress at range 3 which is pretty huge.
Edited by Jo Jothrow in stress bot and that is just ridiculous
But then your only greens are 1 & 2. Sounds bad to me, but I've never flown a Bacon Lettuce Tomato Y-Wing without R2
If you are worried about clearing stress on a BTL stress hog you are doing it wrong. Bury your target, it's more action dependant than you are.
That said, the wording on the TLT is very similar to cluster missiles, and that opens up a whole new ball of wax in regards to whether the TLT will deal extra stress. There are other threads for this argument so let's not start it again here. Just be aware that this may not work as intended...
throw in stress bot and that is just ridiculous
But then your only greens are 1 & 2. Sounds bad to me, but I've never flown a Bacon Lettuce Tomato Y-Wing without R2
If you are worried about clearing stress on a BTL stress hog you are doing it wrong. Bury your target, it's more action dependant than you are.
That said, the wording on the TLT is very similar to cluster missiles, and that opens up a whole new ball of wax in regards to whether the TLT will deal extra stress. There are other threads for this argument so let's not start it again here. Just be aware that this may not work as intended...
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R3A2 specifies when you declare a target, and you only declare a target once with TLT. Now, TWO stress is still great, so I'm not knocking the combo. It just doesn't deal THREE stress, so you're not getting more control than you do with an ion turret. More damage, not more control.
Nice with Horton.
Not sure if Kavil will prefer that or the autoblaster...
Kavil prefers not to use the BTL-A4 title at all.
Also regarding Kavil's pilot ability, you would throw one more die with each shot from the TLT but you would still only do 2 damage max. So i am not sure if this is the right turret for him. On Horton however... Seems really a great option!
Nice with Horton.
Not sure if Kavil will prefer that or the autoblaster...
Kavil prefers not to use the BTL-A4 title at all.
Also regarding Kavil's pilot ability, you would throw one more die with each shot from the TLT but you would still only do 2 damage max. So i am not sure if this is the right turret for him. On Horton however... Seems really a great option!
It makes him more accurate (hit more often) and has a longer reach than Blaster Turret or AB Turret, but in general, I'd agree with you. In a world with AutoFel and AutoJax, turrets with range restrictions are dangerous without powerful escorts. They'll just hang at R2 of your AB Turret, or blast to R1 of your Blaster Turret or TLT, either avoiding the range or shutting down your blaster turret. Now if he's next to someone with a Feedback Array, you're in business.
Take 3x Y-wing with btl-a4 and twin turrets: thats 24 dice you're rolling in a turn with a maximum of 12 damage.
They dan potentially take out a Decimator in 2 turns
you can do waaaaay more damage with scum Ys with blaster turrets and and BTL!! as long as you don't get stressed and can actually fire the blaster turret!! with the agromec you can TL as well!!
Have you met Mr Fel yet? Flies an Interceptor and likes to hang around with Decimators. Lock those turrets and he will have a field day.
you can do waaaaay more damage with scum Ys with blaster turrets and and BTL!! as long as you don't get stressed and can actually fire the blaster turret!! with the agromec you can TL as well!!
True, but the chance to get max. damage with TLT is much higher, since you can use focus. Put Horton as 1 of three Y-wings and you get rerolls too
throw in stress bot and that is just ridiculous
But then your only greens are 1 & 2. Sounds bad to me, but I've never flown a Bacon Lettuce Tomato Y-Wing without R2
If you are worried about clearing stress on a BTL stress hog you are doing it wrong. Bury your target, it's more action dependant than you are.
That said, the wording on the TLT is very similar to cluster missiles, and that opens up a whole new ball of wax in regards to whether the TLT will deal extra stress. There are other threads for this argument so let's not start it again here. Just be aware that this may not work as intended...
This^
R3A2 specifies when you declare a target, and you only declare a target once with TLT. Now, TWO stress is still great, so I'm not knocking the combo. It just doesn't deal THREE stress, so you're not getting more control than you do with an ion turret. More damage, not more control.
Well, you sort of do, since the range of the attack is increased.
I'm not sold on BTL title with TLT. I'm thinking it would limit you too much. Of course, if you are going for stressbot, then I can see the benefit.
Without stressbot, though, I think I like the idea of it without BTL. you can surely find SOMETHING in R 2-3 to shoot at in 360 arc.
Kavil will do more damage with Blaster Turret, but he will hit more often with the TLT. I mean, you fire twice at Phantom or tooled up Interceptor and they only get how many Focus or Evades?
When I think of Horton, the only thing that competes with a TLT for me is a Proton Torpedo and Extra Munitions. I mean....he gets to re-roll all blanks. The Torpedo turns 1 eyeball into a crit. The only downside is if you roll a lot of eyeballs. With EM, each Torpedo only costs 3 pts and you have a good chance of doing 8 damage (not counting criticals) in 2 rounds as opposed to possibly doing more damage in more rounds. Worried PS 8 isn't enough to get TLs? Spend 2 pts to get him EPT bot and VI for PS 10.
I wonder what the math is for Horton with Proton Torpedoes?
Have you met Mr Fel yet?
Yeah but you just have to tag him once and he's dead.
Nice with Horton.
Not sure if Kavil will prefer that or the autoblaster...
Kavil prefers not to use the BTL-A4 title at all.
Well Yes, but the TLT on Kavil is good overall, when I think TLT I think Kavil.
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Edited by PlatoYeah but you just have to tag him once and he's dead.Have you met Mr Fel yet?
Not disagreeing with you. There are a lot of ships though that need only tag him once and yet Fel remains a monster. I'm certainly not saying don't do it, just highlighting the risk. Arc Dodgers flown well are a threat. The reward though, I will admit, is quite high.
Arc Dodgers flown well are a threat. The reward though, I will admit, is quite high.
I agree. Last night I was playing a list with Jake in a A-Wing, and he was the VIP in both games, even though I lost the 2nd one. Because he's so slippery.
I've played BTL Y-Wings against arc dodgers and they are a major pain. But the TLT is going to make Y-Wings even better, since they'll no longer be limited to range 1-2 with most of their weapons. The amount of space a arc covers at range 3 is pretty big, 2 TLT BTL Y-Wings can cover a ton of space on the board.