Do you think there might be some substitute for that? A device, or a mineral of some sort, or what else?

Is it possible from the official GW point of view?

Pentagrammic wards, Gellar fields, Null fields. Such things exist especially since they use them on the Black ships to corral all those psykers that they pick-up

There exists a very rare black metal that actually inhibits psyker powers and is painful for them to touch. Theres a book called Faith and Fire which has a lot of them in it.

In fact the amazing mr T.S. Luikart came up with a Null Rod (something that Inquisitors lacking Psy powers sometimes use):

Ancient devices that only the Tech-Priests of the Machine God still have the ability to produce, null rods are powerful anti-psyker weapons, but exceedingly dangerous to wield for extended periods.

Crafted exclusively from a rare form of obsidian, activated null rods blaze with a corona of negative-psychic energy which all but shuts down the connection between realspace and the Warp. Within 3 metres of an activated rod, no psychic powers of any kind function and manifested daemonic entities can only resort to physical attacks. This blanketing of psychic energy cannot be excluded and applies to everything within the 3-metre radius, including psykers allied to the wielder of the null rod, or even the wielder himself. Note that the dampening only applies to directed psychic effects that start within or try to move into the field. For example, a telekine that hurled a Force Bolt at a null rod wielder would see the energy of their attack harmlessly dissipate 3 metres away from their target. If the same telekine picked up a chainknife with their telekinesis and hurled it towards the holder of the null rod, the whirring knife would likely still be sailing through the air due to momentum as it hit the 3 metre ‘barrier’ of negative psychic energy.

The reason null rods aren’t wider spread isn’t just due to their extreme rarity or difficulty of upkeep, but the extreme danger implicit in how they achieve their means. The Magisters of the Inquisition believe that psychic ability resides within the chemical-electric pathways of the mind, within the dance of neurons that make consciousness possible. The minds of psykers have far more of this neuro-energy which null rods seek to dampen. The diminishment of mental energy around a null rod is most notable in psykers, but actually occurs in all beings exposed to a null rod. Non-psykers exposed to null rods for extended periods begin forgetting important pieces of information, eventually followed by losing consciousness at random intervals, and followed by permanent brain damage as parts of their mental faculties are shut down due to the slowly corroding influence of the rod. This eventual baleful influence is well known to the Ordo Malleus and few dare to wield null rods in any but the most important battles.

Every five minutes spent in the presence of an activated null rod causes all within its aura of influence to successfully take a Routine (+20%) Will Power Test or acquire 1 Insanity Point. The test is a Challenging Will Power Test for the null rod’s wielder.

Stats: Dam: 1d10+2 E Pen 3 Spec Qual: Power Field Wgt: 1.5kg Cost: 12000 Very Rare

Darkshroud said:

Very interesting, that's exactly what I needed, thnaks. Where did you get it?

Sounds like you need to get it direct from the ordos or from a very high ranked magos.

Was posted either here or Dark Reign (can't mind lol), theres all sorts of wacky stuff on Dark Reign that's quite good.

Null tech though is very specialised like numb3rc said high up magos or ordos peeps to get such a thing or perhaps well connected Rogue Traders may be able to get them (or xenos equivelants).

If you have an out-of-control Psyker, just start giving enemies the Mental Fortress talent. Suddenly, he has to deal with the possibility of taking ~1d10 damage with no mitigation when he attacks an enemy.

A Psyker kill-squad enhanced with Unnatural Willpower and trained to use Mental Fortress, perhaps armed with Psycannon Bolts and other tricks from the Holy Ordos armory from the IH is far scarier than a simple untouchable.

Also, the Collar of Korne trait that the Hound has in Creatures Anathema is a good anti-Psyker measure, as is the Aura of Hate that one of the enemies in the Vermin section has.

If you need to hamper the players, a "total NULL" might not be totally necessary.

What are the cababilities of the psyker you want to hamper? Instead of just "countering" his abilities, another way is to make him operate in an area with a very weakend veil (see the minor power) but with more penality in the case of "phenomena". This will make him think twice.

In a DUSK adventure of mine one village will have a high number of people with warding tatooed into there flesh with (with certain inks derrived from plants with psycho-active abilities). While a lot of them rather crazed, it will grant them the equivalent of "Resistance (Psychic Powers)".

Gregorius21778 said:

I think that for now, I would want to hamper the abilities of no less than Mr. Pontius Glaw himself, other than by using Ms.Bequin, the untouchable. That's a scene from the Eisenhorn novel, I'm trying to make a DH adventure of.

So, I believe, this null rod will be issued to them by their inquisitorial master, along with their guncutter (and a servitor pilot - if none of the PCs flies the craft).

I think I'll also try to incorporate other ideas as well. Thanks for helping.

Another possibly is Necron tech. The Necron have shown various things that cut off the warp. (Nulls are said to be their creation.) Pylons being another example.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Pylon

Dalnor Surloc said:

Thanks, but I need something that could be put in a pocket. I think null rods are optimal in my situation...

Also, both the Eisenhorn and Ravenor books frequently mention "Psy blockers" and "Null fields". While psy blockers might not give that area of effect thing like Untouchables do, it renders people immune to mind scans and mind control powers. Null fields sometimes seem to render psychic powers useless as long as the psyker is within the field, and other times it seems to cut off the psykers powers from the rest of the world (meaning that while the psyker might be able to employ his or her powers within the field, the psyker would not be able to have telepathic communication with people outside the field).

egalor said:

Personally I think null rods are Necron technology, and you could certain have something the necrons cooked up that was smaller.

You could use a dose of Torpor. (drug in inquisitors handbook) A psy-dampener would work well too.

this would probably come at different power levels each reducing the wearers psy rating by their dampener rating. So a psy-dampener with a rating of 4 would reduce a psyker psy rating by four.

Torpor is usually a good idea but this is Glaw and he doesn't have a body to inject. I think the null rod is the way to go.

Though if you were using Torpor, using it with special injector rounds with the Widower would be a pretty cool way to deliver it.

I hope this doesn't derail the thread too much, but it seems pretty related to the topic; what would happen to a null if they were turned into a servitor, would their psychic blankness still have any effect? Same question goes to a recently deceased Null, would there bodies still be able to block out psykers?

Dartneis-Is-Back said:

Hard to say. The only time I can say I read anything about a blank being "dead" and near a psyker was in the Ravenor series... I would say that once dead a null would cease to effect the warp energies around them.

-=Brother Praetus=-

Brother Praetus said:

And he carried a device that limited his null field so that, when the device was on, a psyker standing near him would have no trouble at all. Was the limiter on or off when he was near death ?

Bilateralrope said:

True enough... His solution to the problem at hand was marvelous. CraCK goes the astrally-projecting psyker's neck, eh. Forget the inhibitor, that would likely just snap the bugger back into his body.

-=Brother Praetus=-