Scum Kath Scarlet thought on Expose?

By MedicFett, in X-Wing Squad Lists

I like playing the firesprays and i have been toying with the idea with adding exposed and experimental interface with HLC, and K4 security droid on kath scarlet. what are your thoughts and if you were to use that kath, what other scum would you pair with her?

I think you'll find it counterproductive. Expose only works on the Primary Weapon which you then boost to HLC-levels. Shooting out of the Aux Arc you add another die for 5 total. 6 if you happen to be at R1.

But with the HLC you shoot for 5 at R2 anyway out of the Aux Arc, 6 if Exposed, but at higher risk.

You'd gain more benefit out of using Outmaneuver.

I think you'll find it counterproductive. Expose only works on the Primary Weapon which you then boost to HLC-levels. Shooting out of the Aux Arc you add another die for 5 total. 6 if you happen to be at R1.

But with the HLC you shoot for 5 at R2 anyway out of the Aux Arc, 6 if Exposed, but at higher risk.

You'd gain more benefit out of using Outmaneuver.

Well you can't use HLC out of the auxilliary (back) arc. In this case, I can see the reasoning (using K4 to get a free TL, focus with your regular action and then use experimental interface for the expose +1 red die). Maybe that kills a 3 hull TIE or if lucky a z-95. Most likely it doesn't. Then you get shot back with your opponent using their full squad and you are at -1 agility. If Kath isn't killed by the return fire, she will be dead next turn. That's a lot of points gone for an extra red die (maybe 2 if you shoot first again next turn). So ultimately I don't think its worthwhile (my opinion and all).

Oh yeah, Tactician is what I was thinking of.

Some bad advice there on my part. I tend not to run cannons on Firesprays myself.

Edited by Dagonet

I agree with blade. It is probably not worth it with HLC, but if you want to get CRAZY about it just to try and set up that perfect shot, you may consider something like

KATH EXPOSED

100 points


PILOTS

Kath Scarlet (49)
Firespray-31 (38), Expose (4), K4 Security Droid (3), Inertial Dampeners (1), Experimental Interface (3)

Palob Godalhi (31)
HWK-290 (20), Bodyguard (2), Ion Cannon Turret (5), Greedo (1), Moldy Crow (3)

Cartel Spacer (20)
M3-A “Scyk” Interceptor (14), “Heavy Scyk” Interceptor (2), “Mangler” Cannon (4)

With this you would have to be extremely precise and expose at just the right time. The ion cannon on Palob would hopefully make this shot easier after the first round of engagement. Warning: This is a dangerous list (read not optimal in many situations) to fly and has low overall health, so you have to strike hard and fast.

If you're pairing with Palob, better to spend the four points on Opportunist rather than Expose.

Extra, Extra!

Kath Scarlet (Scum) (38)
Expose (4)
Gunner (5)
Experimental Interface (3)
N'Dru Suhlak (17)
Lone Wolf (2)
Kavil (24)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Unhinged Astromech (1)
Total: 100
Same PS, so you can set up the shooting order to your preference.

Kath+adrenaline rush+proximity+K4+Eu

I like running this because at first glance my opponents are like...mmmmk. then they see what it can do. I set up in a joust and 4 straight. next turn (i should be in range for this) i Kturn an dpop AR. then drop the bomb right on my opponent's base. Im also usually now at range one out of the back arc for 5 dice. K4 next round with a green manuver. I did this quite effectively a couple of weeks ago with tac instead of K4. i also ran two warthogs. RAC died in one round. hit all three with the prox, all five with the back arc, and my hogs were at rnage one and finished him off.

its fun list that is effective for one tournament or sitting. the next time though people know its intricacies and fare better

If you're pairing with Palob, better to spend the four points on Opportunist rather than Expose.

This. Opportunist > Expose on most ships.

I've ran Opportunist Kath with Palob before. 6 dice at range 1 out of the rear arc can be absolutely devastating. I nearly one-shotted an IG-2000 before.

Agreed that Opportunist is way better than Expose. Taking Expose + EI eliminates the option of taking EU which I personally think is mandatory on anchor Firesprays - especially Kath.

Opportunist + K4 + EU. The biggest disadvantage is your predictability which EU can compensate for.

Outmaneuver + RecSpec + EU achieves similar firepower potential, but is much more maneuverable and able to tank a bit better than the above. Access to the 2 and 3 hard turns on Kath makes her much harder to predict, and RecSpec will give you some durability in situations where you have to slow-roll and joust.

Hope that helps.

Expose = spend 4 points, your action, lose a green die for less damage increase than a focus token

use something else

Expose = spend 4 points, your action, lose a green die for less damage increase than a focus token

use something else

Couldn't have said it better.

Thank you all I like the ideas i am seeing here!

Kath+adrenaline rush+proximity+K4+Eu

I like running this because at first glance my opponents are like...mmmmk. then they see what it can do. I set up in a joust and 4 straight. next turn (i should be in range for this) i Kturn an dpop AR. then drop the bomb right on my opponent's base. Im also usually now at range one out of the back arc for 5 dice. K4 next round with a green manuver. I did this quite effectively a couple of weeks ago with tac instead of K4. i also ran two warthogs. RAC died in one round. hit all three with the prox, all five with the back arc, and my hogs were at rnage one and finished him off.

its fun list that is effective for one tournament or sitting. the next time though people know its intricacies and fare better

What is the exact list you are running here?!

Kath+adrenaline rush+proximity+K4+Eu

I like running this because at first glance my opponents are like...mmmmk. then they see what it can do. I set up in a joust and 4 straight. next turn (i should be in range for this) i Kturn an dpop AR. then drop the bomb right on my opponent's base. Im also usually now at range one out of the back arc for 5 dice. K4 next round with a green manuver. I did this quite effectively a couple of weeks ago with tac instead of K4. i also ran two warthogs. RAC died in one round. hit all three with the prox, all five with the back arc, and my hogs were at rnage one and finished him off.

its fun list that is effective for one tournament or sitting. the next time though people know its intricacies and fare better

What is the exact list you are running here?!

Kath+tac+andrasta+prox+seismic+AR+EU+feedback (for the massive blind spot she has...its situationally effective)

2xthug+title+ICT+unhinged

-also works by taking off the seismic and putting on K4

-also works with Boba but leave off the seismic or feedback. you have better dice for the AR bomb drop range one shot but less of them. also have the choice of K4 or tac when leaving off the seismic or feedback

I have found it is not worth wasting points on adding a cannon to scum Kath, also expose only works with primary weapons.