SLAM and Navigator

By Khyros, in X-Wing Rules Questions

I want clarity on how Navigator and SLAM interact.

Navigator: When you reveal a maneuver, you may rotate your dial to another maneuver with the same bearing. You cannot rotate to a red maneuver if you have any stress tokens.

SLAM: Choose and execute a maneuver on the ship's dial. The chosen maneuver must be the same speed as the maneuver that ship executed this round. Then assign that ship a weapons disabled token.

So, if I understand this correctly, I can select a 1 bank as my maneuver, then I can reveal it, and rotate it to a 3 bank via Navigator. Now, I can do the SLAM action, which I select as a 3 straight, and reveal that, at which point Navigator can change it to a 2 straight?

Is that correct? I'm not sure if it's super useful, but basically it allows you to do any banks/straight at any speed between the dial, maneuver, and SLAM.

Navigator can't change the second maneuver because that manuever is never revealed. You need to reveal it to trigger the Navigator effect. The SLAM maneuver is only chosen and executed.

Navigator can't change the second maneuver because that manuever is never revealed. You need to reveal it to trigger the Navigator effect. The SLAM maneuver is only chosen and executed.

It has to be revealed. In their own spoiler of the K wing they show the fighter dropping a seismic charge prior to slamming. And that happens prior to revealing the dial.

Oh, what a tangled web we weave...

If things around here were consistent, I'd agree with Khyros.

But I'm honestly more inclined to think you can drop a bomb off a SLAM "just because", and it won't actually trigger anything else related to a dial reveal.

Send it to FFG, there's not enough explanation of the underlying reasoning to know for sure.

RAW - you can't drop a bomb and you can't navigator the SLAM as you don't reveal a manoeuvre

RAI - you can drop a bomb, therefore the manoeuvre must be revealed, therefore you can navigator the SLAM.

RAW - you can't drop a bomb and you can't navigator the SLAM as you don't reveal a manoeuvre

RAI - you can drop a bomb, therefore the manoeuvre must be revealed, therefore you can navigator the SLAM.

I would say rather

RAW - you can't drop a bomb and you can't navigator the SLAM as you don't reveal a manoeuvre

RAIndicated by precedence - you can drop a bomb, therefore the manoeuvre must be revealed, therefore you can navigator the SLAM.

RAWe will probably end up with, just because - you can drop a bomb before SLAMing, but can't navigator.

RAW - you can't drop a bomb and you can't navigator the SLAM as you don't reveal a manoeuvre

RAI - you can drop a bomb, therefore the manoeuvre must be revealed, therefore you can navigator the SLAM.

The bolded part is wrong.

We know how SLAM+bombs work, but we honestly can't say that is' because SLAM must reveal a dial, or extend that as precedent to anything else. Just like a barrel roll didn't became a maneuver because it would detonate a Proximity Mine, and we don't let the inane IG-88A vs. Dead Man's Switch ruling destroy the timing of operations for the entire game.

There have been, and continue to be, any number of rulings which do not work as the rules say they should, and we should not take them as precedent until it's pretty solid. My own preference is for three consistent rulings, but if we get two I'll start to think about it. If all we have is one, forget it - until there's at least one corroborating ruling, it's just one more case of FFG breaking their own rules and nothing more.

Edited by Buhallin