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Edited by Vorpal SwordWhy do we say "overcosted" instead of "overpriced"?
It must be a slow news day, today, huh?
Edited by TezzasGamesOverpriced would suggest that we are talking about the dollar cost of the ship.
Overpriced tends to have financial implications, which can lead to weird misunderstandings.
But that's just a crapshot from me.
Over costed is how much I have to spend over priced is how much I have to pay
I spend to build a list, I pay to play
I'd say it has to do with the fact that we generally say " Card A costs X", So the verb kind of was converted to an adjective rather than more grammatically correct "overpriced" or longer "costs too much"
Edited by DeadwolfIt's mainly semantics, however there is a slight difference in meaning, one being general and the other specific:
Over-costed (cost) can be attributed to any resource that needs to be paid for something, in X-Wing it's squad points, in MTG it's Mana and in many other games there are other resources that can be applicable.
When the word Overpriced (Price) is use, it is far more likely that the resource paid for is in a monetary sense, dollars or in a lot of games credits etc.
Because X-wing uses squad points, which most would not attribute as a monetary commodity most would use the term Over-costed rather than use the word overpriced.
Edit: Bah totally ninja'ed due to overly complicated reply.
Edited by Mace WinduIt's mainly semantics, however there is a slight difference in meaning, one being general and the other specific:
Over-costed (cost) can be attributed to any resource that needs to be paid for something, in X-Wing it's squad points, in MTG it's Mana and in many other games there are other resources that can be applicable.
When the word Overpriced (Price) is use, it is far more likely that the resource paid for is in a monetary sense, dollars or in a lot of games credits etc.
Because X-wing uses squad points, which most would not attribute as a monetary commodity most would use the term Over-costed rather than use the word overpriced.
Edit: Bah totally ninja'ed due to overly complicated reply.
Overly complicated? Perhaps, but thorough all the same.
I hear both used interchangeably in American English. What about for British?
Overpriced would suggest that we are talking about the dollar cost of the ship.
Pretty much sums it up. For example people might call C-3PO overpriced where as the TIE Defender overcosted and the Star Viper both
Pricing is what you pay for it. It costs points from the list max.
Edited by Tipperarythe starviper is reasonably priced and costed (for characters) and overcosted (for generics)
the tie fighter is reasonably priced and very well costed, only it's overcosted for Winged Gundark (possibly Mauler) and, if you're buying the Gonzati
just
for the two blue ties, it's overpriced
(but the new pilots could be well costed)
you can buy an overpriced, undercosted C3po when you buy the Cr-90 to put on an overcosted ORS, but you can't buy an overpriced Huge Ship Only upgrade (though those may be overcosted)
if you buy a bunch of rebel transports and a bunch of core sets, you will have a bunch of overpriced X-wings bearing a bunch of overcosted proton torpedoes
or you can buy four K-wings to use in place of bwings, only they're both overpriced and overcosted for their role
nothing
is underpriced (or, if it was, we wouldn't point it out
)
Why do we say "overcosted" instead of "overpriced"?
Because Overpriced would end up being shortened to OP, which we already use for Overpowered.
This way, when someone says something is OC instead of OP, you know what they mean.
Because America!
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The YT1300 costs 100000 credits, 55 AUD(can be found cheaper) and points varies. Overcosted/overpriced?
Cost v Price, they are both equally used in speaking of money (but mean different things).
Their subtle difference in business: Cost is how much it takes for me to provide something. Price is how much I charge my clients for that (usually cost plus whatever the profit is, unless I want to lose money for some reason). That being said, when my client looks at my price, for them its their cost. It mostly depends on what side of the fence you are looking at the dollars/pounds/sheckles.
To spell that out:
In China there is a factory that makes X-Wing minis.
Making these minis has a cost for the factory. (labor, power, paint, brushes, plastic, etc.)
They then add some profit onto that value and provide FFG a price for making them.
FFG then sells it, their costs are the factories price, plus shipping and any other incidentals required (including development labor).
To that they add some profit and provide us a price for those minis.
That price is what the cost to consumers is.
Before your head spins, its mostly a way to clearly and simply have a discussion around whether a dollar value has profits baked in yet or not when you are having business discussions.
To bring it back home: The squad points is the cost you pay for using that component. The squad point is also the price that the card charges you for using it. This is largely meaningless since there is not an actually person on the other side of the transaction. It is also why I believe cost is used instead of price.
Just my 2 cents (well technically 2.5 cents with 25% GP applied).
I am having a Deja Vu...
I wonder how many of us will just repeat, in our own words, what has already been stated several times over, in as many flavors, an apt description of the difference.
Not to be left out:
One could say that when we are talking about over pricing , we are talking about store value , and when we are talking about over costing we are talking about the perceived value a particular ship brings to a particular fleet .
If we feel a ship "costs" more to field than it (reasonably) delivers for that cost - we say the ship is "over-costed" - meaning that the ship is priced higher than the perceived competitive advantage it offers for that particular "cost".
Edited by DanDoulogosWhy do we say overcosted instead of overpriced?
Because FFG has been using the phrase "point cost" since it appeared 4 times in the Core rulebook. FFG has never used the word "price" to describe any game mechanics in X-wing, including more recently:
I feel that there is another aspect of "Overcosted" that isn't covered by "Overpriced", aside from the latter's financial connotation:
The cost of fielding a ship/upgrade is one of opportunity as well as one of points.
For instance, using a Flechette Cannon has a price of 2 squad points, but also the opportunity cost of the cannon slot.
Why do we say overcosted instead of overpriced?
Because FFG has been using the phrase "point cost" since it appeared 4 times in the Core rulebook. FFG has never used the word "price" to describe any game mechanics in X-wing, including more recently:
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What!? All this time I've been using "expensive"! Why didn't anyone correct me?
What!? All this time I've been using "expensive"! Why didn't anyone correct me?
What!? All this time I've been using "expensive"! Why didn't anyone correct me?
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