All the Factions in Star Wars.

• Light Side

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• Dark Side

• Other (it is controlled by the Hutt)

Close....what we really have is (in the same order)

The Wrong Side

The Right Side

and

The "Other" Side

Based on reading the write of the First Order Tie I am now convinced three blank sku's are Xwing, Tie and Falcon. Then mention the new Tie is bigger more powerful. So I bet 2 on 1 Xwing is no longer a close fight.

As far as faction names... A rose by any other name...

I can't see them doing another falcon. Keep in mind there's 2 First Order TIEs, a repainted Imperial version and the new Special Forces one with the turret & crew. There's also some kind of shuttle in the trailer, and another in leaked concept art (those could be the same ship however).

My guess is a Most Wanted style pack, with a T-70, 2 standard TIEs, and maybe ship tokens and pilot cards for new Falcon crew. Then a Spec Forces TIE pack and something else.

I guess its safe enough to say at this point that I've done work related to The Force Awakens for XWMG. Bearing in mind that things may have changed or switched around during production, I still believe that we'll be getting a TFA themed core set. Whether this will come with updated rules and damage deck I do not know but I know FFG intends for this draw in new players in the wake of the new film.

Also I'm unsure how the new factions will line up with the classic ones but perhaps they'll just keep it simple and treat them as Resistance=Rebels and First Order=Imperials.

I guess its safe enough to say at this point that I've done work related to The Force Awakens for XWMG. Bearing in mind that things may have changed or switched around during production, I still believe that we'll be getting a TFA themed core set. Whether this will come with updated rules and damage deck I do not know but I know FFG intends for this draw in new players in the wake of the new film.

Also I'm unsure how the new factions will line up with the classic ones but perhaps they'll just keep it simple and treat them as Resistance=Rebels and First Order=Imperials.

I guess its safe enough to say at this point that I've done work related to The Force Awakens for XWMG. Bearing in mind that things may have changed or switched around during production, I still believe that we'll be getting a TFA themed core set. Whether this will come with updated rules and damage deck I do not know but I know FFG intends for this draw in new players in the wake of the new film.

Also I'm unsure how the new factions will line up with the classic ones but perhaps they'll just keep it simple and treat them as Resistance=Rebels and First Order=Imperials.

I don't think I've spoiled anything:) I haven't said anything that hasn't been said or revealed already except for the part that I've done work related to TFA. The rest of my post is mostly speculation on my part.

A new game (core set), on the shelves at Wallmart, Target, etc amid the SW epVII hype.

Possible, but the first core set didn't do well at Target, so it's questionable if they'd buy into a new one. But with all the TFA stuff coming out it may be something they'd want to carry.

A "updated" rule book as in one that's been printed with the errata being part of it that would make sense, but I'd think that if they were to reprint the rule book for the current core set they'd include that.

Including the FAQ into it, could be but is a unnecessary expense. They're be spending money on printing pages that they have no reason to print really.

A updated damage deck... If that happens, I'd be shocked. I'd like to see one but it's just not feasible unless FFG is going to consider the new core set mandatory for tournament play.

However, what they have done in other games is make big expansions that are a lot like new core sets.

I haven't seen anything like that. They have big box expansions for Decent and Imperial Assault. But they're no closer to a core set then a Aces box is.

I guess its safe enough to say at this point that I've done work related to The Force Awakens for XWMG. Bearing in mind that things may have changed or switched around during production, I still believe that we'll be getting a TFA themed core set. Whether this will come with updated rules and damage deck I do not know but I know FFG intends for this draw in new players in the wake of the new film.

Also I'm unsure how the new factions will line up with the classic ones but perhaps they'll just keep it simple and treat them as Resistance=Rebels and First Order=Imperials.

So would this mean the three sku's correspond to:

New Core Set

New Falcon

New Shuttle

or

New Core Set

New XWing individual pack

New Tie individual pack

Either seems plausible if the statement above is accurate...

An exercise for the Wave 9:

New Core Set

Ok lets assume that there will be 3 TFA products coming out soon. This doesn't mean there won't be others, just that there's 3 products that will likely be released before wave 7. Assuming 'on the water' means they're being shipped to the US now.

What makes more sense...

A new Falcon Model, or a new Core Set?

I honestly could go either way. A new Falcon from what I've seen would be such a small difference that I can't see much reason to buy it. Other then upgrade cards... But honestly new upgrade cards for the YT?

A new Core Set on the other hand only has any value if it attracts new people to the game. Otherwise FFG would likely make more money selling expansion packs.

Myself I'm thinking that I'd not get more then 2 new X-Wings and maybe 1-2 new Ties depending on what they offer. I think it's a safe bet that a new X-Wing expansion would have something that would buff existing X-Wings. I'm also guessing that FFG would have 2 copies per pack, because they seem to do it that way with fixes.

So 2 new X-Wings would let me fly 4 of them which is plenty.

Another thought for the missing SKU. You could have a X-Wing pack, a TIE pack and a Aces pack with both. Although that seems redundant.

New Core Set

Another thought for the missing SKU. You could have a X-Wing pack, a TIE pack and a Aces pack with both. Although that seems redundant.

This seems plausible!

The least effort for maximum sales! Each set would have different pilots which we all like to buy!!!

New Core Set

Ok lets assume that there will be 3 TFA products coming out soon. This doesn't mean there won't be others, just that there's 3 products that will likely be released before wave 7. Assuming 'on the water' means they're being shipped to the US now.

What makes more sense...

A new Falcon Model, or a new Core Set?

From a marketing stand point, neither. Those products exist and more money can be made by selling existing products. Creating a new Core would "out-date" the existing CORE, which they recently just reprinted and would probably like to sell. Not to mention what a new Core would do to the existing fan base.

I think you're right on to assume a new x-wing model and maybe even a new TIE model.

Those products exist and more money can be made by selling existing products.

Well yes and no...

Lets say you have someone new to the game. They could very well want to pick up both the OT YT-1300 and the TFA YT-1300 because both packs would have upgrade cards that you'd want.

Same goes for the core set. Here's a list of cards you can only get in the core set...

•Luke Skywalker

•Biggs Darklighter

•R2-D2

•R2-F2

•"Mauler Mithel"

•"Dark Curse"

•"Night Beast"

So anyone getting the new core would still need to pick up the old core to get those cards. So a new core set wouldn't make the old one obsolete unless those cards were included in the new one.

Those products exist and more money can be made by selling existing products.

Well yes and no...

Lets say you have someone new to the game. They could very well want to pick up both the OT YT-1300 and the TFA YT-1300 because both packs would have upgrade cards that you'd want.

Same goes for the core set. Here's a list of cards you can only get in the core set...

•Luke Skywalker

•Biggs Darklighter

•R2-D2

•R2-F2

•"Mauler Mithel"

•"Dark Curse"

•"Night Beast"

So anyone getting the new core would still need to pick up the old core to get those cards. So a new core set wouldn't make the old one obsolete unless those cards were included in the new one.

The ideas you have expressed here has killed many a game. Any good marketing team will tell you that these are bad practices if one is looking to keep brand loyalty from its customers.

But business/marketing economics is not a very sexy topic for a fan forum...

The ideas you have expressed here has killed many a game.

I'm not saying it's a good idea. Just pointing out that a new core set doesn't make the old one obsolete.

If they make a new core set then I hope they make the box freaking beautiful. I hate these FFG boxes with big holes in the top. At LEAST put plastic over the holes. I don't keep the inserts for boxes, but I'd like to be able to store stuff in the box like all the extra tokens and rulebooks and stuff and NOT have things fall out.

Well, for X-wing, they do have to show off the sexy, sexy models.

I have to think that, as far as X-Wing goes, because the SKUs are not starting over with a new numbering/naming scheme, we will see three Ep.7 products seamlessly dropped into the existing game without any special fuss or additional art or logos.

Just as "Empire Strikes Back" was not shown on the TIE Bomber pack, for example, these items will be straight-up, more or less incognito additions.

I suspect the desire to add new Falcon crew, etc will follow the "Most Wanted" format, including new pilots and cardboard to "re-brand" the existing YT-1300 expansion.

I further suspect you do not muddy the waters by saying the words "Resistance" and "First Order" too prominently, other than maybe calling the individual expansion pack "Resistance X-wing".

Presumably they'd have releases for all Star Wars games with Ep.7 tie-ins (why not?), including a brand new game or two (card, board, or otherwise). In these cases they'd likely use the Force Awakens terminology/logos more explicitly.

This is a tough branding/marketing problem, however, and I wouldn't be surprised if they do something with a more direct to accentuate the Ep.7 nature of these new materials.

My hope: treat Ep.7 and all that will follow as they've treated everything else thus far (including Rebels): don't acknowledge the product's origin material directly in the product name or packaging.

Maybe they'd use a term like: "Advanced X-wing" or "T-70 X-wing" for the expansion pack name and use the standard "Rebel" mark on the packaging.

Similarly, the other single fighter could be called "Special Forces TIE" and use the regular Imperial packaging.

SWX36: "Resistance" expansion (one T-70, two Special Forces TIEs, lots of extra cardboard to support existing Falcon with new crew & droids)- $40

SWX37: "T-70 X-wing" expansion - $15

SWX38: "Special Forces TIE" expansion -$15

Nothing for Scum (yet), no new starter (yet), and no new factions (yet).

That's my vote, but FFG has surprised me before.

They could also do a "legacy" type thing, with an x-wing aces boxed set featuring an old and new X-wing and a second set featuring an old and new TIE.

I still think a most wanted style pack, with 2 regular first order ties, and t-70 x-Wing with new pilots, upgrades, etc (maybe x-wing upgrade? Like lateral thrusters: your ship gains the barrel roll icon, x-wing only).

Then the special forces TIE, and the new/old falcon

I still think a most wanted style pack, with 2 regular first order ties, and t-70 x-Wing with new pilots, upgrades, etc (maybe x-wing upgrade? Like lateral thrusters: your ship gains the barrel roll icon, x-wing only).

Then the special forces TIE, and the new/old falcon

What do you think for names, factions-wise?

Resistance? Rebels? First Order? Imperial?