Sarlacc Sweep working with Two Weapon Fighting or Linked

By Kilcannon, in Star Wars: Force and Destiny RPG

Had this come up the last session...was wondering if Sarlacc Sweep works with Two-Weapon Fightin assuming the character takes the difficulty increases for both and gets enough advantages to activate both abilities?

This brought up also if a weapon has linked and they use Sarlacc Sweep and get enough advantages can they use them together?

Sarlacc Sweep is its own discrete action, with its own parameters, so I'd say no, you can't two-weapon it.

Even then, it doesn't make any difference, because it does exactly what two-weapon fighting does, except that it's better: it allows any number of additional hits, like auto-fire. So it's basically a moot point.

And personally, I wouldn't allow it to work with two weapons anyway, because aside from the previous two points, two-weapon fighting it is anti-thematic to the Shii-Cho style. So that's three counts against it in my book ;)

Regarding Linked and Sarlacc Sweep, nope, that doesn't work either. Advantage spent can't be re-spent on something else. You could theoretically use the Linked quality while performing a Sarlacc Sweep action, which might be preferable if, for example, your Linked quality was Jury-Rigged to cost 1 Advantage. Otherwise, it wouldn't really matter.

Sarlacc Sweep is its own discrete action, with its own parameters, so I'd say no, you can't two-weapon it.

Even then, it doesn't make any difference, because it does exactly what two-weapon fighting does, except that it's better: it allows any number of additional hits, like auto-fire. So it's basically a moot point.

And personally, I wouldn't allow it to work with two weapons anyway, because aside from the previous two points, two-weapon fighting it is anti-thematic to the Shii-Cho style. So that's three counts against it in my book ;)

Regarding Linked and Sarlacc Sweep, nope, that doesn't work either. Advantage spent can't be re-spent on something else. You could theoretically use the Linked quality while performing a Sarlacc Sweep action, which might be preferable if, for example, your Linked quality was Jury-Rigged to cost 1 Advantage. Otherwise, it wouldn't really matter.

If you get enough advantage to spend on BOTH 2 weapon fighting and linked. At least when I talked to Sam Stewart in the battle royal at gamer nation con he seemed cool with it. He went why would you do that. Then i said paired and he went hmmm good point. Make the weapons paired with the paired attachment. now one advantage gets spent on hitting with the second weapon. spend 2 more advantage on linked and the primary weapon hits a number of times as linked does.

Yeah, I wouldn't have a problem with using Two-Weapon Fighting and Linked together. Consider also that Paired Weapons + Jury-Rigging the Linked quality makes two extra hits for the price of one ;)

And yet it's still not as overpowered as autofire. So...in my book it's all good!

Edited by awayputurwpn

Can sarlacc sweep be activated multiple times if enough advantage rolled

I was thinking of allowing the combos. The fact the player needs to declare sarlacc sweep and two weapon fighting before the attack means two difficulty increases. Also it would be same advantages used for different things. I was saying if enough advantages were rolled to activate sarlacc sweep and my player had extra left over and wanted to activate their second weapon which they increased attack difficulty for also. Same concept for linked except linked doesn't get as difficult to roll

Can sarlacc sweep be activated multiple times if enough advantage rolled

It can, but bear in mind that unlike true autofire, you can only hit each target once during the attack. The talent's full description in the Talents chapter spells this out.

So for instance, if your Shii-Cho Knight is engaged with 3 opponents and you roll 6 Advantage during your Sarlacc Sweep attack, you're only going to get three hits (1 for the original target, 1 each for the other two targets) even though you rolled enough Advantage to trigger Sarlacc Sweep three times (which under the rules for autofire would allow for up to 4 hits).

As for a weapon that has Linked (such as a double-bladed lightsaber) or trying to do two-weapon combat with Sarlacc Sweep..

The Linked I'd probably allow without issue or incident since it doesn't take anything special other than rolling enough Advantage to trigger the weapon quality, and per the wording the extra hits are restricted to the original target, so any extra targets hit by the Sarlacc Sweep wouldn't be affected.

As for Two-Weapon Combat, that also doesn't require it's own specific action, just that you have an off-hand weapon at the ready and that you want to employ it. Combining the two is going to be quite the spike in difficulty (4 purple instead 2 purple before any defensive traits get included), and the end result wouldn't be much different from Linked since the section on Two-Weapon Combat doesn't note any allowances to attack someone other than the original target. Plus you've got the Spitfire talent in Fly Casual, which is a 5th Row talent whose sole purpose is to let the Gunslinger hit somebody other than the original target with dual-wielded pistols, so that to me is another strike against allow the off-hand attack from Two-Weapon Combat to hit somebody other than the original target.

Can sarlacc sweep be activated multiple times if enough advantage rolled

It can, but bear in mind that unlike true autofire, you can only hit each target once during the attack. The talent's full description in the Talents chapter spells this out.

So for instance, if your Shii-Cho Knight is engaged with 3 opponents and you roll 6 Advantage during your Sarlacc Sweep attack, you're only going to get three hits (1 for the original target, 1 each for the other two targets) even though you rolled enough Advantage to trigger Sarlacc Sweep three times (which under the rules for autofire would allow for up to 4 hits).

Yes understood that but thamks for clarification. In that case would use left over advantages to make one of the targets critical or another quality on weapon activated

So two weapon and linked can hit initial target for more damage, but the sarlacc sweep would only hit any other engaged with normal damage. Sounds like it works but not as cool as a player thought, but as cool as I thought

And for narative or descriptive purposes the player can describe sarlacc sweep as both light sabers hitting different enemies if he wants since it seems theme he is going for. Dont always need to give a mechanical reason for two weapons hitting when we can just justify with description

Edited by Kilcannon