For me, the Imperials are only getting more interesting. Palpatine! Various flavours of Tempest swarm! Juno Eclipse! Agent Callus! The Inquisitor being cheap enough you can fairly comfortably run him with Vader and the Baron! Deathrain IN YOUR FACE. OMG THAT GORGEOUS GODDAMN GOZANTI.

I'm not wild about how the TIE-Ink looks but even the little peek we've had at it so far suggests it's going to introduce some new wrinkles into the game. I'm super interested to see if a pack of them with V1 titles led by the Inquisitor with a Tracer are going to make a missile alpha strike possible.

That's kinda how Han Solo started, eh? But then he eventually got turned, and became hardcore rebel loyalist.

Boba Fett may have been a step more professional towards the relationship, but he was still Vader's man for a long time.

And that's why he's for sale in two factions, while Han Solo only works for the rebels.

Hmm, by this logic, shouldn't Bossk also be a double faction pilot? To my knowledge he never took a contract against the empire, and even when Karrde organised the scum to act as the new republic's agents en masse, Bossk refused. His entire career was about hunting down rebel scum for the empire wasn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong

It is not supposed to be flashy, it is Organized EVIL.

If by meh you mean: WE GET FREAKING TIE CARRIERS IN EPIC!!! HOW ******* AWESOME IS THAT?!?!?

then yeah. Very meh.

Off on a slight tangent, but isn't it kind of funny that X-wing Epic can carry and launch ships while Star Wars Armada can't.

A Hutt will never let someone fully pay off thier debts. It's how they keep control.

Granted. But you'd think you'd let him pay off enough that you wouldn't need to have bounty hunters chasing them anymore.

Han wasn't doing work for Jaba anymore. I doubt he would have kept Solo frozen. He would have thawed him and then told him the astronomical amount he owed for being de-thawed and expected to work it off.

Han wasn't doing work for Jaba anymore. I doubt he would have kept Solo frozen. He would have thawed him and then told him the astronomical amount he owed for being de-thawed and expected to work it off.

Nah, of course he would have kept Han frozen. He liked his wall art, remember. Plus it would have served as a fine warning to Hutt debtors across the galaxy.

The new crew they spoiled in the carrier is sick and continues the trend of excellent Imperial only crew. All the Rebel only crew besides C-3PO is...not great.

The TIE Advanced upgrades in the epic ship are game changers.

The boot lickers are getting plenty of great new things.

Plus, new TIE/ln Pilots. 'Scourge' looks quite useful.

The new crew they spoiled in the carrier is sick and continues the trend of excellent Imperial only crew. All the Rebel only crew besides C-3PO is...not great.

The TIE Advanced upgrades in the epic ship are game changers.

The boot lickers are getting plenty of great new things.

To be fair it's well deserved that the Advanced gets competitive. But what disappoints me is that some imps around in the forum just go on bickering about literally anything rebels get. Even if it's a probably uncompetitive ship like the Ghost...

And even more disappointing is the fact that a lot of those that gladly accept the Advanced buff as necessary just will go on denying the necessity to help the X-Wing. And that FFG has yet done nothing about it, not even in Wave 8 as far as we can see. Wellthere is the faint hope that the Inquisitor brings an S-Foil card with him... For Advanced prototype, X-Wing and maybe B-Wing...

The new crew they spoiled in the carrier is sick and continues the trend of excellent Imperial only crew. All the Rebel only crew besides C-3PO is...not great.

The TIE Advanced upgrades in the epic ship are game changers.

The boot lickers are getting plenty of great new things.

I resent that i polish my jack boots with the regulation brush and polish.

Well I don't have have my twi'lek slave girl do it but she does a good job.

Plus, new TIE/ln Pilots. 'Scourge' looks quite useful.

He's so much better than Mithel.

As far as the concern that all the imperial stuff looks similar to each other...

Well yeah, it's a giant empire that has to mass produce to cover a large area. This favors sticking to certain tried and true designs, or designs with specific benefits, so I'm ok with everything looking similar.

Even the ships people are saying they want for Imps all look similar to something. The gunboat looks similar to a shuttle.

Just take a look at real world aircraft. SURPRISE, they all look very similar.

But what disappoints me is that some imps around in the forum just go on bickering about literally anything rebels get. Even if it's a probably uncompetitive ship like the Ghost...

Well, you're talking about no-one on this thread, then. My OP congratulated the rebels on getting such a nice new toy to play with, and I haven't seen one single post since then 'bickering about literally anything rebels get.' So... yep.

The new crew they spoiled in the carrier is sick and continues the trend of excellent Imperial only crew. All the Rebel only crew besides C-3PO is...not great.

Chewbacca and Kyle Katarn are pretty great. I'd smack Leebo on a shuttle in a heartbeat.

The new crew they spoiled in the carrier is sick and continues the trend of excellent Imperial only crew. All the Rebel only crew besides C-3PO is...not great.

Chewbacca and Kyle Katarn are pretty great. I'd smack Leebo on a shuttle in a heartbeat.

But crew cards like Darth Vader and Rebel Captive feel more like the Empire.

But what disappoints me is that some imps around in the forum just go on bickering about literally anything rebels get. Even if it's a probably uncompetitive ship like the Ghost...

Well, you're talking about no-one on this thread, then. My OP congratulated the rebels on getting such a nice new toy to play with, and I haven't seen one single post since then 'bickering about literally anything rebels get.' So... yep.

I am not a Rebel player primarily. But when i hear some of this stuff over and over...

Han wins a few tournaments -> nerf Falcon asap.

Tie Advanced deserves buff but X-Wing is totally okay.

Some (rare ones) even deny that a TIE Phantom nerf was necessary.

All i ask is to be reasonable and see the two sides of the medal (now three with Scum)! You can prefer a faction but bickering every time another faction gets a cookie is childish!

And banjo, i don't know if you are a part of this special breed of posters, i have not read enough of you, but i don't know what you are conplaining about. Imps get a pretty cool ship and they also get the gozanti. Which is a much bigger cookie than anyone else gets actually. And in case you are just into standard play, the Gozanti still brings new Tie Pilots and possibly a metric ton of imperial only crew for standard. So stop complaining please, because you are not only congratulating the rebels here, it is pretty obviously a complaint!

Tie Advanced deserves buff but X-Wing is totally okay.

The Advanced and the X-Wing are in completely different ballparks as far as needing fixes. The X-Wing's biggest problem was that the B-Wing was released for a single additional point. There are a number of X-Wing pilots that see regular play. Vader has arguably one of the best abilities in the game but I've never seen him on a table outside of someone screwing around with a list they built for laughs. The X-Wing on the other hand gets some representation at tournaments.

Tie Advanced deserves buff but X-Wing is totally okay.

The Advanced and the X-Wing are in completely different ballparks as far as needing fixes. The X-Wing's biggest problem was that the B-Wing was released for a single additional point. There are a number of X-Wing pilots that see regular play. Vader has arguably one of the best abilities in the game but I've never seen him on a table outside of someone screwing around with a list they built for laughs. The X-Wing on the other hand gets some representation at tournaments.

There is a lot of truth to this. The X-wing doesn't NEED a fix like the Advanced did. It just need some new life breathed into it. We haven't seen a new mechanic released for the X-wing in a long time. The other Wings (A, B, and Y) have been getting all the love.

NOTHING is wrong with Wedge, Luke, and Biggs. They are still showing up and placing well in tournaments.

Tie Advanced deserves buff but X-Wing is totally okay.

The Advanced and the X-Wing are in completely different ballparks as far as needing fixes. The X-Wing's biggest problem was that the B-Wing was released for a single additional point. There are a number of X-Wing pilots that see regular play. Vader has arguably one of the best abilities in the game but I've never seen him on a table outside of someone screwing around with a list they built for laughs. The X-Wing on the other hand gets some representation at tournaments.

But no, the X-Wings problem is not the B-Wing, it needs to be viable as its own ship, but is not. I also follow the meta pretty closely and i see pretty much zero X-Wings in competitive lists anymore. And the number has further dropped in the last few months as far as i can tell. Before i saw some Tarn Mison doing okay, and occasionally Wes, Luke or Antilles with VI to counter Phantoms pre-nerf. But now... Close to nada!

I wholeheartedly agree that the Advanced was utter crap and needed help. But the X-Wing gets into this spot more and more with each expansion and no help even announced.

The latest blow was the Khiraxz. 20 points for a very similar ship. This is inofficially admitting the X-Wing is overpriced. Yet no help in sight. Thats just unacceptable!

Tie Advanced deserves buff but X-Wing is totally okay.

The Advanced and the X-Wing are in completely different ballparks as far as needing fixes. The X-Wing's biggest problem was that the B-Wing was released for a single additional point. There are a number of X-Wing pilots that see regular play. Vader has arguably one of the best abilities in the game but I've never seen him on a table outside of someone screwing around with a list they built for laughs. The X-Wing on the other hand gets some representation at tournaments.

There is a lot of truth to this. The X-wing doesn't NEED a fix like the Advanced did. It just need some new life breathed into it. We haven't seen a new mechanic released for the X-wing in a long time. The other Wings (A, B, and Y) have been getting all the love.

NOTHING is wrong with Wedge, Luke, and Biggs. They are still showing up and placing well in tournaments.

Because Wave 2?

This. At that point FFG didn't even know they'd be adding a 3rd faction. And there's no way you're going to make a Star Wars game WITHOUT Boba Fett.

But yeah, the Firespray should not be an Imperial ship. But it's too late to fix it now.

I fixed it the second that I got my first three copies of Most Wanted... Dat SCUM Glory!

Tie Advanced deserves buff but X-Wing is totally okay.

The Advanced and the X-Wing are in completely different ballparks as far as needing fixes. The X-Wing's biggest problem was that the B-Wing was released for a single additional point. There are a number of X-Wing pilots that see regular play. Vader has arguably one of the best abilities in the game but I've never seen him on a table outside of someone screwing around with a list they built for laughs. The X-Wing on the other hand gets some representation at tournaments.

There is a lot of truth to this. The X-wing doesn't NEED a fix like the Advanced did. It just need some new life breathed into it. We haven't seen a new mechanic released for the X-wing in a long time. The other Wings (A, B, and Y) have been getting all the love.

NOTHING is wrong with Wedge, Luke, and Biggs. They are still showing up and placing well in tournaments.

You have access to black market tournament information? I cant find any X-Wings placing well other than that lately!

http://xwing.miniranker.com/ships.php?d=90&f=0

Tie Advanced deserves buff but X-Wing is totally okay.

The Advanced and the X-Wing are in completely different ballparks as far as needing fixes. The X-Wing's biggest problem was that the B-Wing was released for a single additional point. There are a number of X-Wing pilots that see regular play. Vader has arguably one of the best abilities in the game but I've never seen him on a table outside of someone screwing around with a list they built for laughs. The X-Wing on the other hand gets some representation at tournaments.

This has a beard, i know...

But no, the X-Wings problem is not the B-Wing, it needs to be viable as its own ship, but is not. I also follow the meta pretty closely and i see pretty much zero X-Wings in competitive lists anymore. And the number has further dropped in the last few months as far as i can tell. Before i saw some Tarn Mison doing okay, and occasionally Wes, Luke or Antilles with VI to counter Phantoms pre-nerf. But now... Close to nada!

I wholeheartedly agree that the Advanced was utter crap and needed help. But the X-Wing gets into this spot more and more with each expansion and no help even announced.

The latest blow was the Khiraxz. 20 points for a very similar ship. This is inofficially admitting the X-Wing is overpriced. Yet no help in sight. Thats just unacceptable!

First I will say it IS viable on its own ship. Is it as sexy as all the new hotness? No. Does the B-wing seem to make more sense at just a point more? Yes. And I do agree, the Khiraxz is a shot to the X-wing's

While there is no official "fix" or new aces on the way, FFG has eluded to it. I'd be surprised if the new Wave 7 stuff (coming out in September) isn't the X-wing fix we've been looking for.

Well pretty much everything spoiled there for Wave 7, where would this fix be?

I also saw pretty much the same ranking in Juggler - efficiency per point spent - some time ago. Where the X-Wing came in fourth last. And the Advanced will zoom past soon as we all know.

Lets be honest, not all ships can hang in the top spots and some are only there because of one precise build (Corran Horn IS the E-Wing basically). But they just owe it to the X-Wing.

Again, look tournament results last 90 days or longer. Its pretty diverse actually but X-Wings are so incredibly rare... Horrible!

Also look up jousting values from MJ. The X-Wing is in a bad spot... Not good at jousting, but sadly that's the only option it has with its dial and no movement past that!

I will stop here bickering with this post myself in the bickering thread of an imperial player, i promise XD. There are other pretty iconic ships needing help even after wave 7 hits (Tie Bomber i am looking at you...) But i just cant see why people are still denying that the X-Wing is in big difficulties. What would be wrong if they made the ship competitive again? I really can't see what X-Wing as a whole game would lose if the X-Wing as a ship was actually a competitive grade good ship to play. It would not need a whole lot to do this, but sadly at the moment it's as far away from such a spot as it gets.

Who's denying that the X-Wing needs a bit of help? All people are saying is that the TIE-Advanced was even worse off. The only people I've seen claim that the X-Wing is fine tend to be the people who are running it and winning with it.

Seriously. You're arguing against a position literally nobody is taking.