With the advent of a tractor beam cannon upgrade and a new (and currently unspoiled) tractor beam token mechanic, can the missile boat and/or gunboat be far behind? What about the TIE Avenger, which first fielded the tractor beam? I never thought of given the TIE/ad a cannon slot, and I doubt FFG would do so just for fluff's sake, but the TIE v1 shows they are willing to produce models of other Advanced TIEs besides the x1.

Still holding out hope.

Oh and I'm glad the tracking device missile works by giving out free TLs, somewhat similar to my sea for it months ago.

Depending on what the Tractor Beam tokens actually do, it could be a nice boost for the TIE Defender...

Well of course the defender will take the TB, it's cheap and presumedly gives some kind of ion-like control.

IG might have a reason to pack it as a second cannon too.

Now that I think about it, the missile boat shouldn't have a cannon slot, but it definately needs a tractor beam. Maybe a special title that allows the TB even without a cannon slot. Gunboat defiantly needs a cannon slot, and all the sudden players will need to decide whether they want HLC, ion or TB. Maybe all three on a whole squad! Nah, no one ever puts different upgrades on multiple ships of the same type, can't do that!

They are never going to give you gunboats please stop with this already. They have made a very strong effort to keep all Empire small ships members of the TIE line to give the faction a consistent aesthetic and keep everything instantly recognizable as Imperial and they will not break it no matter how many of these threads its small clique of fanboys make. Personally I think the next logical small fighter after the Inquisitor is the TIE scout as it will fill the niche of a small support ship that the empire currently lacks.

They are never going to give you gunboats please stop with this already...

Please stop talking tripe already. I haven't seen that much utter, trollish claptrap on this forum in a long time.

Of all the ships to add to the Imperials, the Gunboat is the second-safest bet after a TIE. It looks like a mini-shuttle, after all, so there's still a design family going on.

The Missile Boat, now that has more difficulty. Not that it doesn't look cool, but it does look less Imperialish.

They are never going to give you gunboats please stop with this already...

Please stop talking tripe already. I haven't seen that much utter, trollish claptrap on this forum in a long time.

Its not trollish or tripe, its true. TIEs are iconic and instantly recognizable as Imperial no matter the variant so even those with no knowledge of the EU can look at any one of them and be like "Oh! That ship is on Vader's team!" They aren't going to give up that kind of branding for something most people with mistake for a Rebel ship. The same goes for the Missile Boat and more over they will not bring anything to the table that the Empire doesn't already have.

I see like three of these threads on here every week and its always the same small group of people talking about how much they want it. It gets annoying.

Its not trollish or tripe...

Actually, it's both. As your final comment proves beyond a shadow of a doubt.

I see like three of these threads on here every week and its always the same small group of people talking about how much they want it. It gets annoying.

AKA - "People are posting things that I don't like! So I'm going to post passive-aggressive trash on their thread to try and annoy them!"

If you don't like threads about Assault Gunboats or Missile Boats, well here's a novel idea - don't read the threads about Assault Gunboats and Missile Boats. And certainly don't post snarky, childish and above all inaccurate assumptions about FFG's marketing strategies in a thinly-veiled attempt to annoy the posters who ARE interested in those ships. It's not big, and it's not clever.

Its not trollish or tripe...

Actually, it's both. As your final comment proves beyond a shadow of a doubt.

I see like three of these threads on here every week and its always the same small group of people talking about how much they want it. It gets annoying.

AKA - "People are posting things that I don'tlike! So I'm going to post passive-aggressive trash on their thread to try and annoy them!"

If you don't like threads about Assault Gunboats or Missile Boats, well here's a novel idea - don't read the threads about Assault Gunboats and Missile Boats. And certainly don't post snarky, childish and above all inaccurate assumptions about FFG's marketing strategies in a thinl-veiled attempt to annoy the posters who ARE interesrted in those ships. It's not big, and it's not clever.

I'm not doing any of those things. Just stating facts and logic. The Gunboats just don't fit in the Empire.

Its not trollish or tripe...

Actually, it's both. As your final comment proves beyond a shadow of a doubt.

I see like three of these threads on here every week and its always the same small group of people talking about how much they want it. It gets annoying.

AKA - "People are posting things that I don'tlike! So I'm going to post passive-aggressive trash on their thread to try and annoy them!"

If you don't like threads about Assault Gunboats or Missile Boats, well here's a novel idea - don't read the threads about Assault Gunboats and Missile Boats. And certainly don't post snarky, childish and above all inaccurate assumptions about FFG's marketing strategies in a thinl-veiled attempt to annoy the posters who ARE interesrted in those ships. It's not big, and it's not clever.

I'm not doing any of those things. Just stating facts and logic. The Gunboats just don't fit in the Empire.

Better tell Vader to get off that shuttle then...

Its not trollish or tripe...

Actually, it's both. As your final comment proves beyond a shadow of a doubt.

I see like three of these threads on here every week and its always the same small group of people talking about how much they want it. It gets annoying.

AKA - "People are posting things that I don'tlike! So I'm going to post passive-aggressive trash on their thread to try and annoy them!"

If you don't like threads about Assault Gunboats or Missile Boats, well here's a novel idea - don't read the threads about Assault Gunboats and Missile Boats. And certainly don't post snarky, childish and above all inaccurate assumptions about FFG's marketing strategies in a thinl-veiled attempt to annoy the posters who ARE interesrted in those ships. It's not big, and it's not clever.

I'm not doing any of those things. Just stating facts and logic. The Gunboats just don't fit in the Empire.

Better tell Vader to get off that shuttle then...

The shuttle is A) not a fighter, B) present in the movies, and C) painted imperial white to match the Star Destroyers of which it does share a similar aesthetic.

I would also love the TIE scout, probably as a $20 expansion (I hope 15 tho like the HWK). It is definately needed on the Empire side. Double system slots would be cool!

Actually I think TB will be terrible for the defender. While we don't know very much about the TB, even though it only costs 1, its hidden cost is giving up an attack and dealing 0 damage. The difference is that the minimum point cost for a defender is 30, whereas the maximum base cost of a mist hunter is 26 (generic is probably around 20). The point spread just doesn't give enough options.

It's all speculation though. I could be super wrong as its actually very likely I am. Who knows, 3 deltas with TB could be amazing.

I would also love the TIE scout, probably as a $20 expansion (I hope 15 tho like the HWK). It is definately needed on the Empire side. Double system slots would be cool!

I agree completely! And a crew slot as well. 4h 0s 2-3d 1-2a hmmm and some interesting pilot abilities.

They are never going to give you gunboats please stop with this already...

Please stop talking tripe already. I haven't seen that much utter, trollish claptrap on this forum in a long time.

He's got a point though - in terms of announcements, we're now 1 wave beyond the "ordnance fix wave" that showed the best potential for the XG1 to find a niche in the Imperial line-up and there's still no sign of it.

Instead we have more TIE variants on the way and they've taken the role that the XG1 would have fitted into.

So when it has no role to fulfill that isn't already taken, and an apparent game design decision to only use TIE variants, It's hardly a stretch to conclude that the chances of the XG1 making it into XWM are beginning to approach zero.

They are never going to give you gunboats please stop with this already...

Please stop talking tripe already. I haven't seen that much utter, trollish claptrap on this forum in a long time.

He's got a point though - in terms of announcements, we're now 1 wave beyond the "ordnance fix wave" that showed the best potential for the XG1 to find a niche in the Imperial line-up and there's still no sign of it.

Instead we have more TIE variants on the way and they've taken the role that the XG1 would have fitted into.

So when it has no role to fulfill that isn't already taken, and an apparent game design decision to only use TIE variants, It's hardly a stretch to conclude that the chances of the XG1 making it into XWM are beginning to approach zero.

That is what I was trying to say, though I may have come of ruder then I intended.

Do the imperials have a Bwing equivilant yet? 8 health, agility 1, with plenty of offensive upgrades?

They are never going to give you gunboats please stop with this already...

Please stop talking tripe already. I haven't seen that much utter, trollish claptrap on this forum in a long time.

He's got a point though - in terms of announcements, we're now 1 wave beyond the "ordnance fix wave" that showed the best potential for the XG1 to find a niche in the Imperial line-up and there's still no sign of it.

Instead we have more TIE variants on the way and they've taken the role that the XG1 would have fitted into.

So when it has no role to fulfill that isn't already taken, and an apparent game design decision to only use TIE variants, It's hardly a stretch to conclude that the chances of the XG1 making it into XWM are beginning to approach zero.

Do the imperials have a Bwing equivilant yet? 8 health, agility 1, with plenty of offensive upgrades?

They are never going to give you gunboats please stop with this already...

Please stop talking tripe already. I haven't seen that much utter, trollish claptrap on this forum in a long time.

He's got a point though - in terms of announcements, we're now 1 wave beyond the "ordnance fix wave" that showed the best potential for the XG1 to find a niche in the Imperial line-up and there's still no sign of it.

Instead we have more TIE variants on the way and they've taken the role that the XG1 would have fitted into.

So when it has no role to fulfill that isn't already taken, and an apparent game design decision to only use TIE variants, It's hardly a stretch to conclude that the chances of the XG1 making it into XWM are beginning to approach zero.

No - but the Rebels don't have a high agility, low firepower, unshielded space superiority fighter - or a heavy fighter with a white K-turn.

Are they obliged to have those things because the Imperials do too?

He's got a point though - in terms of announcements, we're now 1 wave beyond the "ordnance fix wave" that showed the best potential for the XG1 to find a niche in the Imperial line-up and there's still no sign of it.

Instead we have more TIE variants on the way and they've taken the role that the XG1 would have fitted into.

So when it has no role to fulfill that isn't already taken, and an apparent game design decision to only use TIE variants, It's hardly a stretch to conclude that the chances of the XG1 making it into XWM are beginning to approach zero.

He hasn't got a point at all, he's just attempting to derail the thread with totally unnecesary hate-posts. In fact, it looks as though successful troll be successful.

Wave 7 was never an "ordnance fix" wave, though, and was never referred to as such. In the interview from last year where subject of Wave 7 was raised iirc, the developers said something along the lines of "bombers will get some love".

And that's exactly what we got. Bombers. The K-Wing and TIE Interdictor, along with Cluster Mines, Conner Nets and Ion Bombs. Extra Munitions in fact, REMOVES ordnance (using up a torpedo slot) so you can add MORE bombs (or missiles, admittedly) for less points.

Neither the Assault Gunboat or Missile Boat are known for carrying or using bombs, so Wave 7 was hardly the "best potential" wave to include them. In fact, just like Wave 8, it was probably anything but.

He's got a point though - in terms of announcements, we're now 1 wave beyond the "ordnance fix wave" that showed the best potential for the XG1 to find a niche in the Imperial line-up and there's still no sign of it.

Instead we have more TIE variants on the way and they've taken the role that the XG1 would have fitted into.

So when it has no role to fulfill that isn't already taken, and an apparent game design decision to only use TIE variants, It's hardly a stretch to conclude that the chances of the XG1 making it into XWM are beginning to approach zero.

He hasn't got a point at all, he's just attempting to derail the thread with totally unnecesary hate-posts. In fact, it looks as though successful troll be successful.

Wave 7 was never an "ordnance fix" wave, though, and was never referred to as such. In the interview from last year where subject of Wave 7 was raised iirc, the developers said something along the lines of "bombers will get some love".

And that's exactly what we got. Bombers. The K-Wing and TIE Interdictor, along with Cluster Mines, Conner Nets and Ion Bombs. Extra Munitions in fact, REMOVES ordnance (using up a torpedo slot) so you can add MORE bombs (or missiles, admittedly) for less points.

Neither the Assault Gunboat or Missile Boat are known for carrying or using bombs, so Wave 7 was hardly the "best potential" wave to include them. In fact, just like Wave 8, it was probably anything but.

You'll note that the phrase ordnance fix was placed in inverted commas - I trust you understand what that means.

However considering that wave 7 does include an ordnance fix of sorts, and the game designers were quoted as saying in reference to wave 7 that “Bombers need a reason to shoot missiles and bombs.” - describing wave 7 was the "ordnance fix" wave would be a fairly accurate description.

He's got a point though - in terms of announcements, we're now 1 wave beyond the "ordnance fix wave" that showed the best potential for the XG1 to find a niche in the Imperial line-up and there's still no sign of it.

Instead we have more TIE variants on the way and they've taken the role that the XG1 would have fitted into.

So when it has no role to fulfill that isn't already taken, and an apparent game design decision to only use TIE variants, It's hardly a stretch to conclude that the chances of the XG1 making it into XWM are beginning to approach zero.

He hasn't got a point at all, he's just attempting to derail the thread with totally unnecesary hate-posts. In fact, it looks as though successful troll be successful.

Wave 7 was never an "ordnance fix" wave, though, and was never referred to as such. In the interview from last year where subject of Wave 7 was raised iirc, the developers said something along the lines of "bombers will get some love".

And that's exactly what we got. Bombers. The K-Wing and TIE Interdictor, along with Cluster Mines, Conner Nets and Ion Bombs. Extra Munitions in fact, REMOVES ordnance (using up a torpedo slot) so you can add MORE bombs (or missiles, admittedly) for less points.

Neither the Assault Gunboat or Missile Boat are known for carrying or using bombs, so Wave 7 was hardly the "best potential" wave to include them. In fact, just like Wave 8, it was probably anything but.

Now you are just being petty. There is no reason for FFG to ever forsake the iconic TIE look for a ship that brings nothing new to he table and that most people have never heard of.

Oh and if the TIE series is always recognizable as Vader's forces I guess we won't be seeing the Clawcraft, at least for scum. Sorry Chiss fanboys.

Oh and if the TIE series is always recognizable as Vader's forces I guess we won't be seeing the Clawcraft, at least for scum. Sorry Chiss fanboys.

Yeah that is most likely true, though categorizing Chiss as scum would be a mistake all on its own.

Oh and if the TIE series is always recognizable as Vader's forces I guess we won't be seeing the Clawcraft, at least for scum. Sorry Chiss fanboys.

Yeah that is most likely true, though categorizing Chiss as scum would be a mistake all on its own.

We are unlikely to get an Independent faction, let alone an entire Chiss faction. Maybe a Galactic Invaders faction to include all the later EU books when extragalactic baddies invaded every week.

Its not trollish or tripe, its true. TIEs are iconic and instantly recognizable as Imperial no matter the variant so even those with no knowledge of the EU can look at any one of them and be like "Oh! That ship is on Vader's team!" They aren't going to give up that kind of branding for something most people with mistake for a Rebel ship. The same goes for the Missile Boat and more over they will not bring anything to the table that the Empire doesn't already have.

That way of thinking, oversimplifying everything so that it looks like familiar themes and designs, to make it easy for the masses to tell which ships are which team, making of everything a "brand" or following an overdesigned art direction because it will increase sales and brand recognition by an X%... Is so depressingly corporate. So depressingly Apple or Microsoft-like. It is so depressingly 2010's, that I cannot but admit that you must be right. These are the signs of the times. That is why the Imperial Raider has interceptor panels around, and even below. Because it's Imperial, and Imperial means black panels, right? Right? Look at me! I am a Star Wars customer!