Dengar is pilot skill 9? Really FFG considers Dengar a better pilot than Boba Fet?

By Marinealver, in X-Wing

Surprised Hera is only 7.

To avoid someone giving her VI and making her >PS 9 in that ship...

The PS is tied to the ship and its dial. With the asymmetrical dial that's been mentioned, I think it'll be an interesting blend. Or suck really badly. I'll wait for passing judgement though.

Dengar's an excellent pilot.

Boba you wouldn't want to take in a 1 on 1 fight, but he's not a piloting god. He's just Luke Skywalker good.

Surprised Hera is only 7.

Surprised Hera is only 7.

To avoid someone giving her VI and making her >PS 9 in that ship...

No EPT.

(I wonder if the Ghost pilots will have EPTs)

Surprised Hera is only 7.

To avoid someone giving her VI and making her >PS 9 in that ship...

No EPT.

(I wonder if the Ghost pilots will have EPTs)

Did not see that... In that case, I agree that seems a little hweird...

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Well we are talking about the same company who died in the first engagement as the other pilot skill 9? I honsetly think FFG should have done a little more research instead of taking bribes for the pilots who can pay for their ego.

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Well we are talking about the same company who died in the first engagement as the other pilot skill 9? I honsetly think FFG should have done a little more research instead of taking bribes for the pilots who can pay for their ego.

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Dengar is the better pilot, NOT the better bounty hunter.

Dengar's a 9 ... on that ship. It's his. He knows its ins and outs. He knows how far he can push it. Put him in a Firespray, he might be a 6.

Dengar is the better pilot, NOT the better bounty hunter.

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Edited by Galactic Funk

It's called power creep.

Scum now has the same number of PS9 pilots as the other two factions! And one of them is in a PWT, just like one of the Rebels' PS9 pilots! And now Scum has a 3 Attack PWT, just like the other two factions! ZOMG power creep!

Dengar is basically a podswoop-racer, and he's got the SW equivalent of Shadowrun's Adrenaline Pump+Wired Reflexes combo.

More or less this. Dengar was a full time pilot to it might be sensible to have him be jacked up to be better then boba (who strikes me as a guy who's a real handiman, great at a lot of things, but not an ace at anything.

He's also known in the EU as a pilot--as opposed to Fett, who's a feared combatant and a relentless hunter but not actually known for being a particularly hot hand in a dogfight.

We could absolutely turn this around, too. Luke Skywalker absolutely is known as a great pilot, a skill he developed early and practiced often even before he established conscious control of his Force abilities. Why should he be a worse pilot than some no-name fighter jock who was introduced as a second fiddle to Luke, and whose principal achievement in taking down the first Death Star was pulling out of the trench run?

Of course you can find justifications in the EU, but mostly it's a mechanical punt: they didn't want two PS9 X-wing pilots, so somebody had to be PS8.

And we have the same situation with Fett and Dengar: if all you've seen is the movies, you wouldn't mark either of those guys down as particularly skilled (or particularly notable, for that matter). You can find justifications in the EU for both of them being very competent pilots, but of the pair Dengar is the one who's known for challenging, and nearly matching, Han Solo. But mostly, it's mechanical: Scum needed another PS9 for parity, and Dengar was next up in the queue of reasonable choices.

It's called power creep.

Atually, this is the result of decisions made specifically to avoid power creep. Scum has to be an equal faction with the others, which means they need to have at least a couple of PS9 pilots. We all know it should have been Boba Fett, but their hands were tied by the fact that they specifically chose not to make Boba PS9 when he was an Imperial pilot.

Out of the bounty hunters we see on screen (and if you're going to give us PS9 pilots, it might as well be one of the bounty hunters that, based on their recruitment by Vader, are probably at the top of their game), Dengar makes the most sense (after Fett) because of his backstory. If anything, Talonbane Cobra is the egregious PS9 scum pilot, but given the lack of any really famous EU scum pilots, that decision was probably made more on the basis of what FFG felt the Kihraxz needed gameplay wise rather than on the lore.

Is Dengar the EU character equally as good as Vader, Fel and Wedge? No probably not. But he's good enough to fill the PS9 pilot niche that scum needs for gameplay purposes, and that ought to (and seems to, in FFG's case) trump lore every time.

I don't get why Boba Fett should be PS 9 anyway. We only ever see him flying from point A to point B.

Dengar is voiced by Simon Pegg.

I'm more concerned about now, we know that Ace Azzameen won't be PS9 :( :(

These guys rank Dengar as the lamest of the bounty hunters who chased Han Solo:

http://tdylf.com/2012/01/26/ranking-the-bounty-hunters-who-chased-han-solo/

This list is rubbish because it put IG-88, who controlled the Death Star II, in 6th place. Honestly, that should make him #1. #2 at the very least. Definitely the most powerful, and in the battle of Endor probably had more kills (from blowing up Rebel Frigates) than all of these other hunters had combined throughout their whole lives.

Haven't read many of the books, but I'm on book two on the bounty hunter wars and dengar seems to know very well that he is outclassed and out skilled by boba fett.

At least he's not Talonbane Cobra. That's a 13 year old's Counterstrike handle if ever I saw one.

Boba Fett was never the best pilot in-universe. Extremely capable, sure, but put him up against Wedge Antilles and co. he'll be out-flown everytime. It's that he's good out of the cockpit too, so let's wait and see what his crew card does before hating Dengar for being good.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Punishing_One

[Dengar] also modified a quad-blaster cannon to operate using an R2-series astromech droid built into [Punishing One] as a gunner, leaving him free to concentrate on flying.

Instead of having to avoid getting shot while also trying to line up a shot himself, he just has to avoid getting shot.

Like flying any turret ship from what I read here. :P

Edited by Destroyer742

Whole topic is no different than the fact X-Wings can't barrel roll , don't have the munitions they're supposed to have (like what , 6 proton torpedoes per ship??), etc etc etc

As the game progresses there's gonna be a lot of logic flaws ...

OK. So Bossk as pilot. Boba, Dengar, and Zuckuss crew. So fluffy. So very fluffy.

At least he's not Talonbane Cobra. That's a 13 year old's Counterstrike handle if ever I saw one.

yeah why is that guy Pskill 9 when he died in his first engagement? I mean he got killed by Serresue, a scyk of all things.

At least he's not Talonbane Cobra. That's a 13 year old's Counterstrike handle if ever I saw one.

yeah why is that guy Pskill 9 when he died in his first engagement? I mean he got killed by Serresue, a scyk of all things.

that's the ship's fault though

can't arc-dodge **** in a Special-K :P

I'm more concerned about now, we know that Ace Azzameen won't be PS9 :( :(

After all Ace is still member of the Rebellion ;) Would be cool to see him as a PS 7 Scum Pilot for the Otana and a PS9 Pilot for the Rebels showing the development of his Pilot skills (literally ^^ )

I'm sure this has already been mentioned, but Dengar is every bit the pilot that Han Solo is.
In fact, the reason Dengar is a bounty hunter at all is because Solo cheated in a pod race and caused Dengar to crash.
He is now a cybernetic-stimamplified bounty hunter, so yeah, having his pilot skill at 9 makes sense.

After all, how much piloting do you see Boba Fett doing in the movies anyway?

Dengar is basically a podswoop-racer, and he's got the SW equivalent of Shadowrun's Adrenaline Pump+Wired Reflexes combo.

More or less this. Dengar was a full time pilot to it might be sensible to have him be jacked up to be better then boba (who strikes me as a guy who's a real handiman, great at a lot of things, but not an ace at anything.)

Otherwise game reasons. I know it seems strange to have him compared to vader, wedge and all that, but scum isn't a coherent faction that got a lot of direct screen time in the trilogy and as a scum player I am thankful to have skilled pilots, I just wish they would stop giving us named pilots without medallions. Seriously guys, it's bad enough losing any inti draws and having a generally inferior pilots skill without potentially cool pilots being ruined by lacking customisation.

Eh, ALL the Punishing One pilots(even the PS3 generic) and 3/4 Mist Hunter pilots have EPTs, it's the Rebels missing out on this wave.

M3a might have been able to take a decent elite pilot skill to make him more evasive.

Black sun vigos.

Special K glisa the hunter.

Every yv-666 other then bossk.

It doesn't include the general pilot skill reduction compared to other ships. Basically behind on in it on perks

Not complaining too much, I just assumed most named pilots were named for a reason.