[WAVE 8] What We Know (and how we know it)

By Tipperary, in X-Wing

I have'nt seen anything about it. A long shot on the new EPT (Punishing One).

Name is really short, begins with R, and art shows heightened arm with aggressive stance (?)

I would say the name is "Rage".

Some to be discarded EPT?

Edit:spellcheck

Edited by Managarmr

it's been suggested before, but find me a clear shot and I'll put it on the list.

Got a droid?

I've actually had mine reclassified as a "light speeder" because Customs kept hounding me.

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Tellona 29th, GRS 37

Alias: Tsiegtiez

Planet - Unknown

City - Unknown

Residence - Unknown

Address - Unknown

Via CommSig - [email protected]

Dear Mr. Tsiegtiez

It is my understanding that you have recently misrepresented a singular astromech droid of unspecified designation as a SoroSuub XP-24 Coupe. It is the NOCBP's intention to inform you of that you have committed an infraction of Imperial law and may be subject to penalty.

Under form 32547-B-TZ5 paragraph 32 of the Outer Rim Territorial Vehicular Code this constitutes a registration error of a repulsorlift vehicle, and may result in the confiscation of the aforementioned droid.

Under form 32556-A-AB2 paragraph 3 of the Outer Rim Territorial Terms for Android Ownership and Use however, this incident represents a violation of ethical procedure and may result in both droid confiscation, and a fine of not less than AurebeshSans-Serif_credit.png200 and not more than AurebeshSans-Serif_credit.png600. Your obligations under the Code have not been released. NOCBP expects submission of the droid in a timely manner to your nearest Internal Security Police centre for evaluation.

NOCBP appreciates your compliance in this matter and anticipates this situation being satisfactorily resolved.

Sincerely,

NEW ORDER CUSTOMS AND BORDER PATROL, Internal Security Office

By: LCDR Kelvin Varton

Commanding Officer, NOSPC Meticulous

Edited by OneKelvin

Just wanted to bump this. I made a similar sheet on my blog and this was a helpful resource. Thanks!

Thought for a second we'd gotten some new info, don't get my heart going like that~!

Glad to be of use!

Logic would also dictate you wouldn't strap guns to a walking navcomp/mechanic, and yet...

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AHAHA YES

THE BLASTROMECH

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Schwarzwald?

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Schwarzwald?

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Schwarzwald?

Logic would also dictate you wouldn't strap guns to a walking navcomp/mechanic, and yet...

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AHAHA YES

THE BLASTROMECH

We call him "Smiley"

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Schwarzwald?

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Schwarzwald?

Paramaters too wide, see following:

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Schwarzwald?

Schwarzwald?

Paramaters too wide, see following:

Great.

Found out who this guy is and what his schtick is.

Now every time I look at the droid I can hear it beeping philosophy at me.

"I've lived my life as a astromech droid. I uncover the truth and record it in my databanks. But then I learned, all too well, that a mere droid like myself can't ever get to the truth in this galaxy... it's nearly impossible. And it's unsure! No one here is even interested in learning the truth - a truth that must be known. But I want to know! I want to learn what must be known!"

(Friggin philosobots.)

Edited by OneKelvin

Holy Force this just became the best thread ever. You see it now and that makes me so happy.

Hera seems way undercosted to me which means the VCX-100 in general is probably extremely undercosted.

Just compare her to a patrol leader at the same cost, sure you lose the turret for attacks from the side but the extra attack die and amazing pilot ability more than makes up for that. Unless it has a terrible dial I don't see this could be anything other than blatant power creep.

Well we know some of the dial will be worse, as her ability includes red manouvres, and the Deci doesn't have any. So I'm thinking she'll have at least a turn (2-turn?) that's red.

And do we know she's 40? Is there a clearer picture? She could be 46/48. And as they have only just gone to the printers, FFG might have changed costs/stats since we saw this preview. It was in July, so lots of months and testing has past.

Hera seems way undercosted to me which means the VCX-100 in general is probably extremely undercosted.

Just compare her to a patrol leader at the same cost, sure you lose the turret for attacks from the side but the extra attack die and amazing pilot ability more than makes up for that. Unless it has a terrible dial I don't see this could be anything other than blatant power creep.

hah no

just ignoring the turret advantage like that is silly. The PWT is an idiotic ability that gives you license to shoot at anyone who can shoot at you, and lets you fly as defensively as you wish without ever having to sacrifice a shot. With that fatass and large-base displacement, that single arc requires actual decision-making and some difficult tactical choices to get shots on enemies.

The only way Hera represents powercreep is if you think she can out-dance an Aggressor

I know Hera is the Team Mom but I don't think she's THAT old!

Oh, you mean the point cost...never mind.

Hera seems way undercosted to me which means the VCX-100 in general is probably extremely undercosted.

Just compare her to a patrol leader at the same cost, sure you lose the turret for attacks from the side but the extra attack die and amazing pilot ability more than makes up for that. Unless it has a terrible dial I don't see this could be anything other than blatant power creep.

hah no

just ignoring the turret advantage like that is silly. The PWT is an idiotic ability that gives you license to shoot at anyone who can shoot at you, and lets you fly as defensively as you wish without ever having to sacrifice a shot. With that fatass and large-base displacement, that single arc requires actual decision-making and some difficult tactical choices to get shots on enemies.

The only way Hera represents powercreep is if you think she can out-dance an Aggressor

I didn't say anything about ignoring the turret, I said that's looking like it's the Patrol Leader's only advantage over Hera which just isn't a good enough advantage given the extra attack die and pilot ability. The latter of which obviously depends heavily on the dial which we don't know yet so I can't yet say for sure if it's power creep. It should definitely be a concern however.

The ability to "out-dance an Aggressor" has no bearing at all on whether or not something is too powerful for it's cost. We also have no idea if she can do so or not yet because the dial isn't out.

Well we know some of the dial will be worse, as her ability includes red manouvres, and the Deci doesn't have any. So I'm thinking she'll have at least a turn (2-turn?) that's red.

And do we know she's 40? Is there a clearer picture? She could be 46/48. And as they have only just gone to the printers, FFG might have changed costs/stats since we saw this preview. It was in July, so lots of months and testing has past.

I don't see how the dial could be worse unless it's an extremely weird one as it's already spoiled as having a 4 forward green. Having reds doesn't mean the dial is going to be worse because for all we know those reds will be S-Loops or K-Turns.

Yeah it can be hard enough keeping Aggressor in that forward arc with all those greens and turns, so a big ship like the Ghost with reds on the dial will be even harder (hence Hera's ability as the ace pilot of the family)

Plus, with all those upgrade slots to fill, and the cost of the Phantom added on, even if you go pretty slim with the stuff you pick the Ghost will add up to loads of points VERY quickly.

I don't see many lists with the Ghost having more then 3 ships in them, and those other two ships won't be able to be loaded up aces. As people said when the article hit, it might be the first 'one' ship list that is capable of being ok.

Hera seems way undercosted to me which means the VCX-100 in general is probably extremely undercosted.

Just compare her to a patrol leader at the same cost, sure you lose the turret for attacks from the side but the extra attack die and amazing pilot ability more than makes up for that. Unless it has a terrible dial I don't see this could be anything other than blatant power creep.

Losing the turret is huge. Unless you throw on a turret secondary (raising the cost) or equip the Phantom (And the Phantom is gonna add quite a few points given its stats), you're gonna have to rely on being in arc with a large ship.

Also no EPT slot, so Hera's stuck at 7 PS.

Edited by WingedSpider

Hera seems way undercosted to me which means the VCX-100 in general is probably extremely undercosted.

Just compare her to a patrol leader at the same cost, sure you lose the turret for attacks from the side but the extra attack die and amazing pilot ability more than makes up for that. Unless it has a terrible dial I don't see this could be anything other than blatant power creep.

You do realize that the Ghost doesn't get the rear arc unless you have a docked Phantom, right? So you need to add at least a 18-20 pt ship to the Ghost to get that rear arc. At which point, your comparison becomes invalid.

Do we think EPT's from the docked VCX will affect the Ghost?

The set comes with Predator, so someone can take it. Maybe one of the crew lets you take an EPT? Maybe that's Hera's crew ability, so you can't ever give her one, but you could give the lower PS guys one.

We shall see.

Hera seems way undercosted to me which means the VCX-100 in general is probably extremely undercosted.

Just compare her to a patrol leader at the same cost, sure you lose the turret for attacks from the side but the extra attack die and amazing pilot ability more than makes up for that. Unless it has a terrible dial I don't see this could be anything other than blatant power creep.

Losing the turret is huge. Unless you throw on a turret secondary (raising the cost) or equip the Phantom (And the Phantom is gonna add quite a few points given its stats), you're gonna have to rely on being in arc with a large ship.

Also no EPT slot, so Hera's stuck at 7 PS.

Missed that.

Hera seems way undercosted to me which means the VCX-100 in general is probably extremely undercosted.

Just compare her to a patrol leader at the same cost, sure you lose the turret for attacks from the side but the extra attack die and amazing pilot ability more than makes up for that. Unless it has a terrible dial I don't see this could be anything other than blatant power creep.

You do realize that the Ghost doesn't get the rear arc unless you have a docked Phantom, right? So you need to add at least a 18-20 pt ship to the Ghost to get that rear arc. At which point, your comparison becomes invalid.

Also missed that. That alone seems to make my concerns invalid, I completely retract my statement.

Should the off hand reference to Punishing One's dial be put down? That it has one side all green?

She can expose herself for 5 dice, 6 at range 1. That with her movement shenanigans gives her a huge advantage. As an Imp player i find that pretty scary.

Note - just incase anyone thinks it.

I am not saying she is OP

I am not saying the sky is falling.

I am not saying she'll be the meta.

Just saying it looks pretty formidable.

Edited by DariusAPB

Should the off hand reference to Punishing One's dial be put down? That it has one side all green?

It seems more likely that he meant that all the greens were on one side. I know it isn't literally what he said, but I'm guessing that's what he means.