Soooo....nobody commenting on ALL scum ships getting a cloaking device?

By xanderf, in X-Wing

Palob predator blaster recon title closing device Stygium

Kind of a dodgy sort of cloak, but still...

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So it looks like you have the option of discarding it and decloaking or just discarding your cloak token when you roll focus results. At two points the ability to gain two evade dice and have the decloak ability is definitely worth it. Even if you do roll focus tokens you don't have to lose the upgrade card, you can instead just discard the token. I am going to join the crowd on this and say to pair with the Stygium Particle Accelerator.

Yeah, Rolling the eyeball just means you perform your decloak a little earlier than you would have otherwise (with SPA you'd miss out on an evade token the next round) and have to burn an action the next round if you wanted to stay cloaked. Because it lets you just discard the token instead of requiring a decloak you may actually end up better of in some situations when you roll that eyeball.

Palob predator blaster recon title closing device Stygium

I wouldn't put Recon and Blaster on him. They are too action hungry, you'll be spending actions to cloak. I'd probably put either Intel Agent or K4 on him and one of the other turrets. Autoblaster might actually be kind of fun on him with his decloaking all over the place.

I'd probably go with a cheaper EPT, but Expert Handling might be fun on him. With a decloak and barrel-roll it would be next to impossible to guess where he'd end up, letting him deprive his prey of tokens and waste their target locks at the same time.

Edited by WWHSD

"Small ship only."

But...no ship that small has a cloaking device!

"Cloaking Devices can't melt transparisteel"

Kind of a dodgy sort of cloak, but still...

cloaking-device.png

So it looks like you have the option of discarding it and decloaking or just discarding your cloak token when you roll focus results. At two points the ability to gain two evade dice and have the decloak ability is definitely worth it. Even if you do roll focus tokens you don't have to lose the upgrade card, you can instead just discard the token. I am going to join the crowd on this and say to pair with the Stygium Particle Accelerator.

Yeah, Rolling the eyeball just means you perform your decloak a little earlier than you would have otherwise (with SPA you'd miss out on an evade token the next round) and have to burn an action the next round if you wanted to stay cloaked. Because it lets you just discard the token instead of requiring a decloak you may actually end up better of in some situations when you roll that eyeball.

I think you guys are misreading the card. On an eyeball result, you always discard your cloaking device. Then, you may either decloak or discard your cloak token without decloaking.

Oh, you poor, poor Scyks.

You're a cartel ship that can't cloak Serissu... and you had problems enough to start with. :P

Regarding the wording: On an [eye] result, discard this card, then (xyz) has, based on the FAQs of previous cards, meant you do the first bit, always, then do the latter.

It's not "[discard this card then decloak] or [discard your cloak token]", it's "[discard this card] then [decloak or discard your cloak token]". Similar rules happen with Bossk crew, and R7-T1. So if you roll an [eye] result, the card is toast.

If you were going to decloak next round, the cost is that your opponent now knows where you're headed, rather than having to guess. C'est la vie.

Still, it's a heck of an upgrade, even if you only fire it off as an "Oh ****" button on a HWK or ace to help 'em tank a hostile firestorm; a glitterstim that doesn't cost you a stress, and buys you a get-out-of-dodge to boot. I'm absolutely loving the illicit slot's shenanigans to date, breaking rules everywhere it goes. :D

Kind of a dodgy sort of cloak, but still...

cloaking-device.png

So it looks like you have the option of discarding it and decloaking or just discarding your cloak token when you roll focus results. At two points the ability to gain two evade dice and have the decloak ability is definitely worth it. Even if you do roll focus tokens you don't have to lose the upgrade card, you can instead just discard the token. I am going to join the crowd on this and say to pair with the Stygium Particle Accelerator.

Yeah, Rolling the eyeball just means you perform your decloak a little earlier than you would have otherwise (with SPA you'd miss out on an evade token the next round) and have to burn an action the next round if you wanted to stay cloaked. Because it lets you just discard the token instead of requiring a decloak you may actually end up better of in some situations when you roll that eyeball.

I think you guys are misreading the card. On an eyeball result, you always discard your cloaking device. Then, you may either decloak or discard your cloak token without decloaking.

That's correct. You always discard the card on focus. And it's not that you give up the token but don't decloak, its that you can use the template and perform a decloak action or just decloak in your current position. It's probably more a failsafe in case your cloaking device dies on you when all proper decloak options are blocked.

Talonbane with a cloaking device. Use it to skip into a good position, then waste a poor fool with 5 red dice... add glitterstim if you really don't like someone...

Edit: actually can't do that, cause he doesn't have 2 illicit slots...

Edited by joewrightgm

Kind of a dodgy sort of cloak, but still...

cloaking-device.png

So it looks like you have the option of discarding it and decloaking or just discarding your cloak token when you roll focus results. At two points the ability to gain two evade dice and have the decloak ability is definitely worth it. Even if you do roll focus tokens you don't have to lose the upgrade card, you can instead just discard the token. I am going to join the crowd on this and say to pair with the Stygium Particle Accelerator.

Yeah, Rolling the eyeball just means you perform your decloak a little earlier than you would have otherwise (with SPA you'd miss out on an evade token the next round) and have to burn an action the next round if you wanted to stay cloaked. Because it lets you just discard the token instead of requiring a decloak you may actually end up better of in some situations when you roll that eyeball.

I think you guys are misreading the card. On an eyeball result, you always discard your cloaking device. Then, you may either decloak or discard your cloak token without decloaking.

That's correct. You always discard the card on focus. And it's not that you give up the token but don't decloak, its that you can use the template and perform a decloak action or just decloak in your current position. It's probably more a failsafe in case your cloaking device dies on you when all proper decloak options are blocked.

Now, see, I thought it was a choice between A: perrforming a decloak maneuver and losing the card, or losing the token without performing a decloak maneuver, but keeping the card. I could 've wrong, but that's how read it.

Kind of a dodgy sort of cloak, but still...

cloaking-device.png

So it looks like you have the option of discarding it and decloaking or just discarding your cloak token when you roll focus results. At two points the ability to gain two evade dice and have the decloak ability is definitely worth it. Even if you do roll focus tokens you don't have to lose the upgrade card, you can instead just discard the token. I am going to join the crowd on this and say to pair with the Stygium Particle Accelerator.

Yeah, Rolling the eyeball just means you perform your decloak a little earlier than you would have otherwise (with SPA you'd miss out on an evade token the next round) and have to burn an action the next round if you wanted to stay cloaked. Because it lets you just discard the token instead of requiring a decloak you may actually end up better of in some situations when you roll that eyeball.

I think you guys are misreading the card. On an eyeball result, you always discard your cloaking device. Then, you may either decloak or discard your cloak token without decloaking.

That's correct. You always discard the card on focus. And it's not that you give up the token but don't decloak, its that you can use the template and perform a decloak action or just decloak in your current position. It's probably more a failsafe in case your cloaking device dies on you when all proper decloak options are blocked.

Now, see, I thought it was a choice between A: perrforming a decloak maneuver and losing the card, or losing the token without performing a decloak maneuver, but keeping the card. I could 've wrong, but that's how read it.

Kind of a dodgy sort of cloak, but still...

cloaking-device.png

So it looks like you have the option of discarding it and decloaking or just discarding your cloak token when you roll focus results. At two points the ability to gain two evade dice and have the decloak ability is definitely worth it. Even if you do roll focus tokens you don't have to lose the upgrade card, you can instead just discard the token. I am going to join the crowd on this and say to pair with the Stygium Particle Accelerator.

Yeah, Rolling the eyeball just means you perform your decloak a little earlier than you would have otherwise (with SPA you'd miss out on an evade token the next round) and have to burn an action the next round if you wanted to stay cloaked. Because it lets you just discard the token instead of requiring a decloak you may actually end up better of in some situations when you roll that eyeball.

I think you guys are misreading the card. On an eyeball result, you always discard your cloaking device. Then, you may either decloak or discard your cloak token without decloaking.

Dammit, you are right. The "then discard this card" didn't even register.

Edited by WWHSD

Dang. I pointed that out too, but apparently didn't end up in the quotebomb. ;)

You know, I think I really like it on just about anything. The repositional abilities alone on a ship without barrel roll that gets snarled up in a parking lot...

IMO the random failure is a load of horse ****

This plus stygium could've made cobra usable. It still does, only it'll **** you 25% of the time and you'll be left bearing a worthless mod.

Edited by ficklegreendice

I see some good things to come with this combo. I already enjoy the Sigma + Stygiym lots.

IMO the random failure is a load of horse ****

This plus stygium could've made cobra usable. It still does, only it'll **** you 25% of the time and you'll be left bearing a worthless mod.

It's a get-out-of-blocking-jail-free card, not a constant-use thing.

It's also a mini thrusters evade against things that can shoot a squishy 5 health ship no matter how they maneuver

The random fail seems completely unwarranted given the drawbacks (need action to cloak, can't shoot when cloaked etc)

Kind of a dodgy sort of cloak, but still...

cloaking-device.png

So it looks like you have the option of discarding it and decloaking or just discarding your cloak token when you roll focus results. At two points the ability to gain two evade dice and have the decloak ability is definitely worth it. Even if you do roll focus tokens you don't have to lose the upgrade card, you can instead just discard the token. I am going to join the crowd on this and say to pair with the Stygium Particle Accelerator.

Yeah, Rolling the eyeball just means you perform your decloak a little earlier than you would have otherwise (with SPA you'd miss out on an evade token the next round) and have to burn an action the next round if you wanted to stay cloaked. Because it lets you just discard the token instead of requiring a decloak you may actually end up better of in some situations when you roll that eyeball.

I think you guys are misreading the card. On an eyeball result, you always discard your cloaking device. Then, you may either decloak or discard your cloak token without decloaking.

That's correct. You always discard the card on focus. And it's not that you give up the token but don't decloak, its that you can use the template and perform a decloak action or just decloak in your current position. It's probably more a failsafe in case your cloaking device dies on you when all proper decloak options are blocked.

Now, see, I thought it was a choice between A: perrforming a decloak maneuver and losing the card, or losing the token without performing a decloak maneuver, but keeping the card. I could 've wrong, but that's how read it.

The commas separate it into multiple parts and you check for them in order. When a focus is rolled you discard the card, then you are given a choice on how to decloak (per the decloak mechanic or stationary).

I see what you are saying, and you are absolutely correct. If you roll a focus, then you have to discard the card regardless of what else happens, then you decide whether to take the decloak maneuver, or just lose the token and stay where you are.

Without ACD, cloaking is purely defensive as ships that are cloaked can't attack. No worries.

It will certainly prove frustrating occasionally but I love the flavor if it. It's janky tech that you stole and jury rigged to your ship, so it doesn't always work quite right.

It will certainly prove frustrating occasionally but I love the flavor if it. It's janky tech that you stole and jury rigged to your ship, so it doesn't always work quite right.

THIS

Oh, you poor, poor Scyks.

You're a cartel ship that can't cloak Serissu... and you had problems enough to start with. :P

Don't worry about them too much. They get tractor beams. I don't know what the tractor beam token does but I can guarantee there's going to be *that* dude that has three heavy Scyks with tractor beams.

That dude may or may not be me.

Forgetting the cloaking device now scum is getting a fat turreted ship.

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Now all us superior Arc Dodger players will have no chance of winning against all those PWT flying noobs! I mean we are the better players, we shouldn't be loosing to easy mode ships! :P

Edited by Marinealver

Everybody is talking about Palob for the Cloaking Device. My choice would be Torkil.

Torkil + Cloaking Device + Autoblaster Turret + Stygma Particle Accelerator + IntelAgent.

You can really mess up a high PS ship, and you get Torkil more maneuverable which he needs when going against a bunch of lower pilot skill ships, and some much needed evade tokens.

Edited by kingargyle