Post First Game Question, please help

By sorednax, in Star Wars: Armada

So we played through the basic set up a couple of times, and need a rule clarification or two.

Regarding Ships that attack twice. The rules seem conflicted. First it says must be fired FROM the same hull side the original attack came from, the other says from DIFFERENT hull sides (ie: the left firing arc and front firing arc). The rules get further fuddled when it isn't clear if this applies to ships firing on other ships or firing on squadrons. I checked the errata/faq, but no help.

If your movement is a zero, and your command is maneuver, is there a way to "rotate" the ship?

TIE Fighter swarm tactic: Hopefully this will let me illustrate....

X 1 X2

T1 T2 T3

3 TIE Fighters engage 2 x-wings. T1 is 1 space away from X1, and T3 is 1 spacefrom X2. T2 is 1 space from both. Do BOTH T1 and T3 gain the benefit of swarm from T2's position? Does T2 get an additional swarm advantage (say 2 dice instead of one) as he is in swarm range of T1 and T3???

The Second shot *cannot* be from the Same Hull Zone as the First Shot, unless there is some other Scenario Rule that allows it...


You can only Turn on a Maneuver. There is no Wallowing and Spinning slowly on the Spot... Gotta go forward to Turn...

They get the Swarm Advantage (as their target is engaged with someone else who has swarm)... But Swarm either Applies or Doesn't... There's no Doubly Up on it. Its a Yes or No.

The Second shot *cannot* be from the Same Hull Zone as the First Shot, unless there is some other Scenario Rule that allows it...

You can only Turn on a Maneuver. There is no Wallowing and Spinning slowly on the Spot... Gotta go forward to Turn...

They get the Swarm Advantage (as their target is engaged with someone else who has swarm)... But Swarm either Applies or Doesn't... There's no Doubly Up on it. Its a Yes or No.

Swarm is applied to any squadron that has swarm if their target is engaged by another squadron (even if they are a TIE Bomber)

On your first point I think that you have confused the rules dealing with anti-squad fire.

Every turn each ship may perform 2 attacks, these attacks must be from DIFFERENT hull zones. But when a ship (ie A victory star destroyer) is shooting at squadron s (ie 4 x-wings) it may fire at EVERY SQUADRON IN THAT ARC. Effectively makeing multiple attacks but it still only counts as 1 of the 2 attacks. This is were the rules state that the second and third and so on "attack" against squadron must come from the same hull zone.

But you can still use both attacks to shoot at squadrons that are in 2 different arcs of a ship

Swarm is applied to any squadron that has swarm if their target is engaged by another squadron (even if they are a TIE Bomber)


You are correct too... I was merely pointing out that its either a Yes/No for the Swarm Reroll... If there's 6 squadrons with Swarm, you don't get 6 Rerolls with the one activated squadron :D

Edited by Drasnighta

On your first point I think that you have confused the rules dealing with anti-squad fire.

Every turn each ship may perform 2 attacks, these attacks must be from DIFFERENT hull zones. But when a ship (ie A victory star destroyer) is shooting at squadron s (ie 4 x-wings) it may fire at EVERY SQUADRON IN THAT ARC. Effectively makeing multiple attacks but it still only counts as 1 of the 2 attacks. This is were the rules state that the second and third and so on "attack" against squadron must come from the same hull zone.

are the targets of different type? Like, can one target be 4 x-wings in the same firing arc, while the other attack is against a ship (blockade runner) ???? or do the targets have to be of the same type? what if I have 4 squadrons on my left zone and a blockade runner on my left zone, can I attack both targets or on or the other.

also, what if the target fits across my zone border, where line of site would be from my front and right arcs, can both attack the same target?

Edited by sorednax

On your first point I think that you have confused the rules dealing with anti-squad fire.

Every turn each ship may perform 2 attacks, these attacks must be from DIFFERENT hull zones. But when a ship (ie A victory star destroyer) is shooting at squadron s (ie 4 x-wings) it may fire at EVERY SQUADRON IN THAT ARC. Effectively makeing multiple attacks but it still only counts as 1 of the 2 attacks. This is were the rules state that the second and third and so on "attack" against squadron must come from the same hull zone.

are the targets of different type? Like, can one target be 4 x-wings in the same firing arc, while the other attack is against a ship (blockade runner) ???? or do the targets have to be of the same type?

You choose for each attack...

"This attack is goign to Shoot Squadrons, out of my Front Arc..." - Resolve the fire against the Squadrons as appropriate.

"This attack is going tobe at this Ship out of my Side Arc..." - Resolve against the Ship.

"This attack is going to be at this Ship in my Front Arc." - Resolve against the Ship.

"This attack is going to be at the same ship from my Side arc, as my arc line is pointing towards it!" - Resolve against the Ship.

"This attack out of my Left arc will be at Squadrons." - Resolve the fire against the Squadrons as appropriate.

"This attack of my Right arc will also be at Squadrons." - Resolve the fire against the Squadrons as appropriate.

So to be clear about firing:

When you fire with a ship, you may fire once from one arc, at one kind of target. Then you can fire again, out a different arc, at one kind of target.

So your decision tree per the rules is:

  1. Do I want to fire with this Ship to make a first attack?
  2. If so, do I want to fire from the Front / Right / Left / Back arc?
  3. If so, do I want to fire at Squadrons or Ships?
  4. Do I want to fire with this Ship to make a second attack?
  5. If so, do I want to fire from the Front / Right / Left / Back arc, given that I cannot fire from the arc I fired from in the first attack?
  6. If so, do I want to fire at Squadrons or Ships?

In that order.

So let us say your first action was to fire out the Right at Squadrons.

Then, your second attack cannot be from the Right arc, regardless of the target. You already used it. You could then fire out the Front at different Squadrons, or the Front at a Ship, or the Left at Squadrons, or the left at a Ship, etc...

What you cannot do is fire out the Right, again, for any reason (barring a card or scenario rule that lets you fire twice out of the same arc).

Is that clear?

Edited by Reinholt

also, what if the target fits across my zone border, where line of site would be from my front and right arcs, can both attack the same target?

Yes

also, what if the target fits across my zone border, where line of site would be from my front and right arcs, can both attack the same target?

Yes, but make sure to note that these are 2 separate attacks, resolved separately.

Attack 1: You pick, side arc or front arc. Let's say you pick front arc. You resolve the attack, defender uses defense tokens, etc. Attack completes.

Attack 2: You picked front arc in attack 1 so this leaves you with the side arc to attack from. You resolve the attack, defender uses defense tokens, etc. Attack completes.

Now this ship is done with it's attacks.