Q:When measuring line of sight, do the attacker’s hull zones block line of sight?

A: No.

FAQ, p2 top left.

Does this mean that if part of the ship is in the firing arc of - for example - my left weapon I can fire on a section of the enemy ship that is not in my firing arc since I can draw LOS through my other - for example front - hull zone as long as the defending ships hull zones arent in the way?

I hope it is somewhat clear what I mean. I am at work now and can't photograph my minis to get my point across better.

No. The line is traced from the firing hull zone's yellow targeting dot.

This part of the FAQ is saying the traced line could cross over the top of another zone on the attacking ship. (Yes there are situation where this could occur)

Not quite. You still need to have the enemy hull zone in arc. Line of sight (LOS) is traced from yellow dot to yellow dot to determine if the attack is possible (not blocked by defending hull zones) or obstructed (opposing ships or obstacles under the line)

There are a few corner cases where the line might cross the attackers hull zone lines.

Assault Frigate is attacking the front arc of the vic. Its in arc, and LOS check is good.

The FAQ was largely to bring the fact that attackers arcs don't block LOS to the fore front as that bullet point in the rules reference guide was largely lost among the other bullets in the LOS section.

Let's say two ships are parallel, but one is a bit further back than another. Ships with narrower side arcs might be able to catch the back end of a ship's wider side arc in it's own arc, but then when drawing line of sight, the line overlaps another zone on the attacker. This attack is still legal.

I've had this happen. It is possible, just not very likely most of the time.

Not quite. You still need to have the enemy hull zone in arc. Line of sight (LOS) is traced from yellow dot to yellow dot to determine if the attack is possible (not blocked by defending hull zones) or obstructed (opposing ships or obstacles under the line)

There are a few corner cases where the line might cross the attackers hull zone lines.

The VSD has a similar shot from it's front hull zone to the side zone of the Assault Frigate in that example.

You can take a look at my Attacking video. Just click my Armada Tactics News link in my signature

Okay, this makes WAY MORE sense now.

The way I read it, , it seemed to me that the VSD in your example could (if the VSD was moved a little bit north in your picture so that the frigate were just a little bit in its stern firing arc) fire from its stern on the assault frigates starboard side.

Which I now know to be wrong.

Thanks everyone!

@Lyraeus, will check it out later, thx

Hmmm looking at Vassal pictures I think Vassal cheats a little. . . It is not using the bases or it is extending the arcs to the base itself. . .

Hmmm looking at Vassal pictures I think Vassal cheats a little. . . It is not using the bases or it is extending the arcs to the base itself. . .

The vassal images were constructed by measuring where the firing arc lines on my baseplates hit the edge (how many millimeters from the corner) and where the center point of all the lines is. The lines on the vassal bases are extended to the edge of the clear plastic physical bases, and then projected out the length of the range ruler.

If there's one you think I need to double check, or you think a graphical change would be beneficial, send me a PM with the specifics. its been a while since I did them and there's a decent chance I messed some up somewhere.

Edit: Beaten to the punch with a better answer. Ignore this.

Edit: Beaten to the punch with a better answer. Ignore this.

There are a few corner cases where the line might cross the attackers hull zone lines.

The is a good example.

AF Shooting:

First see what of the target is in arc. The AF draws its front arc and just cuts through the VSD's corner, so from it's front arc the front of the VSD is targetable.

Second check LOS from yellow dot to yellow dot, the AF can see the front of the VSD as this line does not cross any of the VSD's hull lines.

Third measure range, the closest part of the AF is the top right corner and you take this to the point where this would be at a right angle to the VSD.

AF Shooting:

First see what of the target is in arc. The VSD draws its arc and just cuts through the AF's corner, so from it's front arc the front and starboard of the VSD is targetable.

Second check LOS from yellow dot to yellow dot, the VSD cannot see the front of the AF as this line does cross the AF's hull line. So you must pick another target, from the front of the VSD to the starboard side of the AF, and the front of the VSD can see the side of the AF.

Third measure range, the closest part of the VSD is the top left of its front arc line you take this to the point where this would be at a right angle to the AF.

So if the AF is shooting it will probably be best going front to front and side to side. (Feel like I should have a Daniel San in there.) On the other hand the VSD shooting will go front to side and side to side, that AF is going to hurt in a second.