Remember that olden goldie, i do back when those of us predicting a third faction were mocked endlessly, maybe they are reusing art maybe we'll see that fighter never say never.

The fact that FFG somewhat unexpectedly decided to open up a third faction is not evidence that nothing should be ruled out, ever.

but but but.... Galileo

Remember that olden goldie, i do back when those of us predicting a third faction were mocked endlessly, maybe they are reusing art maybe we'll see that fighter never say never.

The fact that FFG somewhat unexpectedly decided to open up a third faction is not evidence that nothing should be ruled out, ever.

but but but.... Galileo

magnifico (oh...oh...oh)

A Scum Aces pack with a different Kihraxz sculpt (instead of just a different paintjob) could be cool, though.

A Scum Aces pack with a different Kihraxz sculpt (instead of just a different paintjob) could be cool, though.

I'd buy that up just for the alt sculpt

but, knowing FFG, it'd also be years before an aces pack

so far, the only Vaksai we're getting is on Lightning Reflexes

Remember that olden goldie, i do back when those of us predicting a third faction were mocked endlessly, maybe they are reusing art maybe we'll see that fighter never say never.

The fact that FFG somewhat unexpectedly decided to open up a third faction is not evidence that nothing should be ruled out, ever.

but but but.... Galileo

The fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.

The fact that FFG somewhat unexpectedly decided to open up a third faction is not evidence that nothing should be ruled out, ever.

Unexpectedly for YOU, maybe.

Quite a lot of us on the forum were expecting it, if I recall correctly.

The fact that FFG somewhat unexpectedly decided to open up a third faction is not evidence that nothing should be ruled out, ever.

Unexpectedly for YOU, maybe.

Quite a lot of us on the forum were expecting it, if I recall correctly.

Hobojebus said "those of us predicting a third faction were mocked endlessly," and I'm saying nothing about that episode has any bearing on how likely FFG is to release a Vaksai miniature. The two events are independent of one another.

I said "somewhat unexpectedly" because I wasn't interested in arguing about the everybody-was-against-me frame; the conclusions he's drawing from the episode are bad even if everything about his description of it is true.

I would WELCOME a aces pack with the 3 factions in it with open arms!

You seem to be disregarding the end of Hobo's statement, Vorpal Sword:

...maybe they are reusing art maybe we'll see that fighter never say never.

....which I read as him saying "maybe they will, maybe they won't, we can only wait and see".

Which is fair enough. Because as we've seen, card and article art HAS in the past given us hints as to what to expect in upcoming releases. It's nt a hard and fast rule, of course - but I don't see anyone claiming that it is. Only that it's a possibility.

But hey, hints or no, we'll likely have a clearer idea of what's coming next after GenCon.

It's highly unlikely. It's possible, but if I had a dime for every post about how the artwork from some card was a spoiler for the next wave, and was proven wrong... I could pay for wave 7 and 8.FFG is big on reusing the artwork, and even though there's one case of artwork featuring a ship that will be released, there's about 15+ cases where it didn't.

Other than atmospheric ships and landers I can't think of any besides Etahn.

Roark Garnet.

Roark Garnet...

...which is the ship we're actually talking about on this thread...

it's a Kihraxz style 1 or 2, the ffg model is style 4, there's just a bunch of different variants for some reason. This is from wookieepedia:

The fact that FFG somewhat unexpectedly decided to open up a third faction is not evidence that nothing should be ruled out, ever.

Unexpectedly for YOU, maybe. Quite a lot of us on the forum were expecting it, if I recall correctly.

Hobojebus said "those of us predicting a third faction were mocked endlessly," and I'm saying nothing about that episode has any bearing on how likely FFG is to release a Vaksai miniature. The two events are independent of one another.I said "somewhat unexpectedly" because I wasn't interested in arguing about the everybody-was-against-me frame; the conclusions he's drawing from the episode are bad even if everything about his description of it is true.

But really my track record for predicting things is excellent the only thing I've been wrong on so far is the gunship coming out with wave seven.

So I'm happy to let my record speak for itself.

It's k guys, you ALL have the biggest HLCs.

It's k guys, you ALL have the biggest HLCs.

Yeah your right and they look so impressive mounted on my precious defenders.

I dunno about the Vaksai being in wave 8 but I think its possible since they chose the style 4 Kihraxz for that ship they can later release the Vaksai. If they used style 1 Kihraxz they would have players being confused over if the ship on the table is the style 1 Kihraxz or the very similar Vaksai.

it's a Kihraxz style 1 or 2, the ffg model is style 4, there's just a bunch of different variants for some reason.

It could be either really but I think its more likely a Kihraxz it lacks the bevel on the front of the wings. Its from a game they wanted to give players options over how their ships looked so engines guns all sorts of parts that make up the ship gave it a vastly different look.

As far as the Vaksai being dismissed as just a variant of the Kihraxz, you might as well just say that the tie interceptor is just a variant of the tie fighter.

If there are any unaligned ships in E7 then those would be a much safer bet for a Scum entry in Wave 8 than a different type of K.

If there are any unaligned ships in E7 then those would be a much safer bet for a Scum entry in Wave 8 than a different type of K.

Assuming you subscribe to the unlikely-given-current-trends view that Wave 8 will include Episode 7 ships.

As per devs, Wave 8 was either finished or mostly-finished partway through last year, and it's doubtful they would have had access to Episode 7 designs at an early enough stage to include them in development.

9-10 onward, I can maybe see.

I've often wondered of the relationship between art and future ships runs the other way. Consider:

You're a FFG dev. You've got card art sitting on your desk, and open in Photoshop. You are spending months working on first a new mechanic, and then the proper wording.

Eventually, you get _really interested_ in the ship in the art. No, not the one you should be working on. That's too frustrating. It's the other ship. That one is way more interesting than the bantha poodoo you're banging your head on.

So you head to Wookipedia and learn it's history. You come to love it. And that's gonna be your reward for finishing _this_ ship.

Repeat cycle.

If there are any unaligned ships in E7 then those would be a much safer bet for a Scum entry in Wave 8 than a different type of K.

Assuming you subscribe to the unlikely-given-current-trends view that Wave 8 will include Episode 7 ships.

As per devs, Wave 8 was either finished or mostly-finished partway through last year, and it's doubtful they would have had access to Episode 7 designs at an early enough stage to include them in development

Oh? Happen to have a link?

If there are any unaligned ships in E7 then those would be a much safer bet for a Scum entry in Wave 8 than a different type of K.

Assuming you subscribe to the unlikely-given-current-trends view that Wave 8 will include Episode 7 ships.

As per devs, Wave 8 was either finished or mostly-finished partway through last year, and it's doubtful they would have had access to Episode 7 designs at an early enough stage to include them in development

Oh? Happen to have a link?

If there are any unaligned ships in E7 then those would be a much safer bet for a Scum entry in Wave 8 than a different type of K.

Assuming you subscribe to the unlikely-given-current-trends view that Wave 8 will include Episode 7 ships.

As per devs, Wave 8 was either finished or mostly-finished partway through last year, and it's doubtful they would have had access to Episode 7 designs at an early enough stage to include them in development

Oh? Happen to have a link?

I'll see if I can find it, it was either in a podcast or an audio interview at... Worlds, I think.

Looks like it was actually a Store Championship interview: http://www.jodocast.com/2015/02/22/x-wing-qa-with-designer-alex-davy/

Specifically "almost done with Wave 8" in late Feb.

Given they've talked about... was it 18-month planning cycles?, it would have had started development beginning of 2014, WAY too early for Episode 7.

apparently the Vaskai is a variant of the Special K fighter

while I like the Special K we're getting, I really like the Vaskai's look a whole lot more

Well, that's because that's the standard Kihraxz, believe it or not.

I do like the idea of the Vaksai model being released as an alternative version of the Kihraxz in a Scum Aces set, just like the (and I know Galaxies fans may hate me for saying this) Dunelizard could potentially be an alternative version of the Heavy Scyk.

Given the variety of ships available to the Scum faction, It'd certainly be more interesting than a simple repaint of the existing ships - but would it be viable? Maybe not.