2 questions please.

What happens with The Titan's Bastard is in play and Valar Morghulis is playing. Will he return to hand or will he die?

And another theme question - Where I can find rulls for shadow mechanics?

Alatarfun said:

When there is "response" step, no card is placed in dead pile yet (so you can't use him).

Alatarfun said:

In the Support section of the game: www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/agotlcg/support/Shadows.pdf

Ok Thanks
Another situation: every player has characters in play, I have too. Valar Morghulis is playing and I have Titan's Bastard card in my hand. Can I put him in play because I put my characters in dead pile, or Titan's Bastard return to my hand because enemy card is putting to dead pile?

Rogue30 said:

Not entirely true. When the "Response" step for Valar comes around, all the characters that were killed are indeed still physically on the table - but the rules read that for the purpose of Responses, they are considered to have been "placed" in the dead pile. If you had to wait until they were physically removed from the table and the actual card was in the dead pile, you'd never be able to use The Titan's Bastard's "return to hand" effect because cards are only physically taken off the table after the chance to trigger Responses. There would be no place to trigger the Response before the next standard action initiated.

However, the overall answer is correct. If Titan's Bastard is on the table when someone reveals Valar, all the characters in play die when the plot resolves. By the time you get to the Response step, he has already been killed by Valar. The way the rules are written and his ability reads, you cannot return him to hand if he himself is already dead (compare it to a card like "Retreat"). So if The Titan's Bastard is on the table when Valar is played, he cannot use his ability to return to hand and effectively "save" himself from the kill.

Alatarfun said:

Remember that Titan's Bastard's "put into play" and "return to hand" effects are Responses. They only happen if you, the player, actively uses them. So after Valar is revealed and a character of yours is killed, you can indeed choose to put him into play from your hand. If an opponent's character also died, you could also choose to return him immediately to your hand if you really wanted to, but the point is that in either case, you have to make the choice.

ktom said:

"Aegon's Hill"

You are right of course. It's just so convenient to treat Titan's ability like it was designed to respond to physically placing a card in pile. (I think this card is the only one example of such action.)

Rogue30 said:

"Aegon's Hill"

That would be impressive foresight considering that The Titan's Bastard is a reprint of a 4-year-old card.

Rogue30 said:

It was actually designed to work with "Deathbound," letting you bounce him around when people played events like Forever Burning. But yeah, the whole "placed" wording does beg for some sort of rule-of-thumb, doesn't it?