After reading the FAQ I have surmised that with the Tie x1 and ATC you would still be allowed to add a crit, though no dice were added (assuming a target lock and within arc)

However with Miranda (forgot last name) the K wing fighter, can you use her ability to roll one less dice (or more) and get the benefit of the trigger from her ability while under the effect of the blinded pilot crit?

After reading the FAQ I have surmised that with the Tie x1 and ATC you would still be allowed to add a crit, though no dice were added (assuming a target lock and within arc)

However with Miranda (forgot last name) the K wing fighter, can you use her ability to roll one less dice (or more) and get the benefit of the trigger from her ability?

Firstly, I didn't catch the title when I was about to comment, and so lost the actual problem with your comment.

I think I'm going to have to cite the Decimator+Expose example, and say "Yes you can" to Miranda Doni's regeneration of a shield in this scenario.

It is, however, completely unrelated to the Advanced Targeting Computer example. The addition of a result ignores dice entirely, just like how you can spend and Evade Token with Kir Kanos in the same scenario.

After reading the FAQ I have surmised that with the Tie x1 and ATC you would still be allowed to add a crit, though no dice were added (assuming a target lock and within arc)

However with Miranda (forgot last name) the K wing fighter, can you use her ability to roll one less dice (or more) and get the benefit of the trigger from her ability?

Not sure what you are asking.

After reading the FAQ I have surmised that with the Tie x1 and ATC you would still be allowed to add a crit, though no dice were added (assuming a target lock and within arc)

However with Miranda (forgot last name) the K wing fighter, can you use her ability to roll one less dice (or more) and get the benefit of the trigger from her ability?

Not sure what you are asking.

the blinded pilot crit. that says "next attack roll do not roll any attack dice"

can Miranda (the unreleased Kwing pilot) use her ability which is roll 1 less dice to regain a shield, OR roll 1 more dice at the cost of a Shield to counteract the effect of the blinded pilot crit.

Blinded pilot crit forces you to roll 0 attack dice with your next attack roll. If you modify that number (i.e. 0 ) by taking a -1 die penalty, you can use Miranda's shield regeneration ability when you make you blinded pilot attack. The total dice rolled is still zero, even after modification. Forgot its no dice not zero dice.

When Miranda gets fully released, the next FAQ should cover whether this.

My thinking for A.C. and TIEx1 title is that you roll 0 dice, substitute in A.C. of 2 hits, and gain the bonus crit if the target is TL'ed. Your next "blinded shot" is 2 hits and a crit.

Miranda shouldn't be able to use her ability with Blinded Pilot because it says "Do not roll any dice" so she can't choose to roll one less when she's not allowed to roll any to start with.

Blinded pilot crit forces you to roll 0 attack dice with your next attack roll. If you modify that number (i.e. 0 ) by taking a -1 die penalty, you can use Miranda's shield regeneration ability when you make you blinded pilot attack. The total dice rolled is still zero, even after modification. Forgot its no dice not zero dice.

When Miranda gets fully released, the next FAQ should cover whether this.

My thinking for A.C. and TIEx1 title is that you roll 0 dice, substitute in A.C. of 2 hits, and gain the bonus crit if the target is TL'ed. Your next "blinded shot" is 2 hits and a crit.

How are you getting both AC and the crit from Adv Targeting Computer on a TIE/AD?

After reading the FAQ I have surmised that with the Tie x1 and ATC you would still be allowed to add a crit, though no dice were added (assuming a target lock and within arc)

However with Miranda (forgot last name) the K wing fighter, can you use her ability to roll one less dice (or more) and get the benefit of the trigger from her ability?

Not sure what you are asking.

the blinded pilot crit. that says "next attack roll do not roll any attack dice"

can Miranda (the unreleased Kwing pilot) use her ability which is roll 1 less dice to regain a shield, OR roll 1 more dice at the cost of a Shield to counteract the effect of the blinded pilot crit.

Right - I get you now

In the case of Miiranda we already have precedents

You roll an extra attack die when you attack at R1 with a primary weapon - blinded pilot stops you from rolling any dice at all - including bonus die - so she couldn't spend a shield to roll 1 die.

There are also effects in the game that reduce your primary attack (and reduce your agility) - if the value was zero to begin with it cannot be reduced to less than zero - you cannot roll less than zero dice. OK we don't have zero attack value ships, but we do have zero agility ships,and the rules are clear on what happens when the agility value is reduced.

So based on what we know already I'd say that you cannot trigger Miranda's ability either way if she suffers a BP crit.

ATC on the other hand would work.

You add the crit result to your dice pool during the modify attack dice step which happens after the attack dice have been rolled.

You roll zero dice - then add a crit.

Never thought of that before - good question

After reading the FAQ I have surmised that with the Tie x1 and ATC you would still be allowed to add a crit, though no dice were added (assuming a target lock and within arc)

However with Miranda (forgot last name) the K wing fighter, can you use her ability to roll one less dice (or more) and get the benefit of the trigger from her ability?

Not sure what you are asking.

the blinded pilot crit. that says "next attack roll do not roll any attack dice"

can Miranda (the unreleased Kwing pilot) use her ability which is roll 1 less dice to regain a shield, OR roll 1 more dice at the cost of a Shield to counteract the effect of the blinded pilot crit.

There are also effects in the game that reduce your primary attack (and reduce your agility) - if the value was zero to begin with it cannot be reduced to less than zero - you cannot roll less than zero dice. OK we don't have zero attack value ships, but we do have zero agility ships,and the rules are clear on what happens when the agility value is reduced.

So based on what we know already I'd say that you cannot trigger Miranda's ability either way if she suffers a BP crit.

The precedents you mention actually disagree with your conclusion in this specific instance. The Decimator can use Expose even at 0 Agility, so MIranda must be able to use her ability even if she rolls no dice.

Indeed, looked at more literally, based on the actual text of the card, Blinded Pilot doesn't care what your attack value is. It just says not to roll dice - there's no mention of reducing or otherwise modifying your attack value. Thus she could modify her attack from 2 dice to 1 and gain a shield, and then not roll dice.

The AC cancels dice results and then adds two hit results. Since the dice results for the initial attack are determined by not rolling dice, you can then cancel the no dice and add two hit results. In the same way, ATC will add a critical result on top of your no results from rolling no dice.

After reading the FAQ I have surmised that with the Tie x1 and ATC you would still be allowed to add a crit, though no dice were added (assuming a target lock and within arc)

However with Miranda (forgot last name) the K wing fighter, can you use her ability to roll one less dice (or more) and get the benefit of the trigger from her ability?

Not sure what you are asking.

the blinded pilot crit. that says "next attack roll do not roll any attack dice"

can Miranda (the unreleased Kwing pilot) use her ability which is roll 1 less dice to regain a shield, OR roll 1 more dice at the cost of a Shield to counteract the effect of the blinded pilot crit.

There are also effects in the game that reduce your primary attack (and reduce your agility) - if the value was zero to begin with it cannot be reduced to less than zero - you cannot roll less than zero dice. OK we don't have zero attack value ships, but we do have zero agility ships,and the rules are clear on what happens when the agility value is reduced.

So based on what we know already I'd say that you cannot trigger Miranda's ability either way if she suffers a BP crit.

The precedents you mention actually disagree with your conclusion in this specific instance. The Decimator can use Expose even at 0 Agility, so MIranda must be able to use her ability even if she rolls no dice.

Indeed, looked at more literally, based on the actual text of the card, Blinded Pilot doesn't care what your attack value is. It just says not to roll dice - there's no mention of reducing or otherwise modifying your attack value. Thus she could modify her attack from 2 dice to 1 and gain a shield, and then not roll dice.

The AC cancels dice results and then adds two hit results. Since the dice results for the initial attack are determined by not rolling dice, you can then cancel the no dice and add two hit results. In the same way, ATC will add a critical result on top of your no results from rolling no dice.

perhaps I didn't explain myself very well - my point was that BP ignores any abilities or bonuses that increase attack value or add bonus dice, and this is already well explained within the rules as they stand - you roll zero dice end of story - and the rules precedents agree with me on that. Yes I can still use Expose if I have a BP crit - but it won't make any difference.

In terms of reducing your dice, the rules so far have a precedent that you can't roll less than zero dice - so Miranda cannot reduce her zero dice roll to less than zero to regen a shield

You're right about AC but I didn't mention it because the the OP asked about ATC not AC

In terms of reducing your dice, the rules so far have a precedent that you can't roll less than zero dice - so Miranda cannot reduce her zero dice roll to less than zero to regen a shield

I disagree, and it is the point being made above. The precedent is that YOU CAN reduce 0 dice. The example is expose on a decimator, which can be activated to reduce your 0 agility. Therefore, Miranda should let you reduce your attack.

After reading the FAQ I have surmised that with the Tie x1 and ATC you would still be allowed to add a crit, though no dice were added (assuming a target lock and within arc)

However with Miranda (forgot last name) the K wing fighter, can you use her ability to roll one less dice (or more) and get the benefit of the trigger from her ability?

Not sure what you are asking.

the blinded pilot crit. that says "next attack roll do not roll any attack dice"

can Miranda (the unreleased Kwing pilot) use her ability which is roll 1 less dice to regain a shield, OR roll 1 more dice at the cost of a Shield to counteract the effect of the blinded pilot crit.

There are also effects in the game that reduce your primary attack (and reduce your agility) - if the value was zero to begin with it cannot be reduced to less than zero - you cannot roll less than zero dice. OK we don't have zero attack value ships, but we do have zero agility ships,and the rules are clear on what happens when the agility value is reduced.

So based on what we know already I'd say that you cannot trigger Miranda's ability either way if she suffers a BP crit.

The precedents you mention actually disagree with your conclusion in this specific instance. The Decimator can use Expose even at 0 Agility, so MIranda must be able to use her ability even if she rolls no dice.

Indeed, looked at more literally, based on the actual text of the card, Blinded Pilot doesn't care what your attack value is. It just says not to roll dice - there's no mention of reducing or otherwise modifying your attack value. Thus she could modify her attack from 2 dice to 1 and gain a shield, and then not roll dice.

The AC cancels dice results and then adds two hit results. Since the dice results for the initial attack are determined by not rolling dice, you can then cancel the no dice and add two hit results. In the same way, ATC will add a critical result on top of your no results from rolling no dice.

perhaps I didn't explain myself very well - my point was that BP ignores any abilities or bonuses that increase attack value or add bonus dice, and this is already well explained within the rules as they stand - you roll zero dice end of story - and the rules precedents agree with me on that. Yes I can still use Expose if I have a BP crit - but it won't make any difference.

In terms of reducing your dice, the rules so far have a precedent that you can't roll less than zero dice - so Miranda cannot reduce her zero dice roll to less than zero to regen a shield

You're right about AC but I didn't mention it because the the OP asked about ATC not AC

Apparently I didn't explain myself well enough, either, when I said

The Decimator can use Expose even at 0 Agility

which I thought was clearly intended to demonstrate that an ability that reduces a stat is still usable if that stat is 0. Therefore, even if Blinded Pilot reduced your Attack to 0 (which it does not), Miranda would still, by that precedent, be allowed to subract one Attack die to gain a Shield token.

It's all moot, anyway, since Blinded Pilot says that, regardless of your Attack value, you simply do not roll dice.

Blinded pilot crit forces you to roll 0 attack dice with your next attack roll. If you modify that number (i.e. 0 ) by taking a -1 die penalty, you can use Miranda's shield regeneration ability when you make you blinded pilot attack. The total dice rolled is still zero, even after modification. Forgot its no dice not zero dice.

When Miranda gets fully released, the next FAQ should cover whether this.

My thinking for A.C. and TIEx1 title is that you roll 0 dice, substitute in A.C. of 2 hits, and gain the bonus crit if the target is TL'ed. Your next "blinded shot" is 2 hits and a crit.

How are you getting both AC and the crit from Adv Targeting Computer on a TIE/AD?

Because I forgot they take the same slot.

You would get one or the either triggering since they add dice result to your dice pool.

I'm resurrecting this based on the NEW Blinded Pilot crit, and adding TLT to the equation.

Can Miranda flip over the BP crit with the first TLT attack, then regain a shield off the second TLT attack?

I'm resurrecting this based on the NEW Blinded Pilot crit, and adding TLT to the equation.

Can Miranda flip over the BP crit with the first TLT attack, then regain a shield off the second TLT attack?

i believe it to be so. Cannot modify blinded shot, but definitely the second.

I'm resurrecting this based on the NEW Blinded Pilot crit, and adding TLT to the equation.

Can Miranda flip over the BP crit with the first TLT attack, then regain a shield off the second TLT attack?

i believe it to be so. Cannot modify blinded shot, but definitely the second.

With the old card, you would be correct. But with the new card, since you never get to attack at all, you never get to activate TLT. Neither attack happens, so Miranda never gets to use her ability.

I'm resurrecting this based on the NEW Blinded Pilot crit, and adding TLT to the equation.

Can Miranda flip over the BP crit with the first TLT attack, then regain a shield off the second TLT attack?

i believe it to be so. Cannot modify blinded shot, but definitely the second.

With the old card, you would be correct. But with the new card, since you never get to attack at all, you never get to activate TLT. Neither attack happens, so Miranda never gets to use her ability.

So the reasoning is that TLT activates with the "Attack:" header, thus the new BP card shuts down the entire TLT card including its effect of performing the attack twice. I can buy that.

I'm resurrecting this based on the NEW Blinded Pilot crit, and adding TLT to the equation.

Can Miranda flip over the BP crit with the first TLT attack, then regain a shield off the second TLT attack?

i believe it to be so. Cannot modify blinded shot, but definitely the second.

With the old card, you would be correct. But with the new card, since you never get to attack at all, you never get to activate TLT. Neither attack happens, so Miranda never gets to use her ability.

brutal.