Does it bother anybody else that humans are disrespected just like droids in FFG's Star Wars RPGs?

By HappyDaze, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

What am I talking about?

Throughout the books humans and droids are the only species that are consistently seen without capitalization of the species name (unless it begins a sentence). We have Bothans, Duros, Neimodians, Hutts, Wookiees, and Rodians, but then we have humans and droids rather than Humans and Droids. While I could see a an in-universe reason that droids are not considered a proper species name, I can't see any good reason not to use "Human" in-universe if every other species name is so capitalized.

OK, near-pointless rant is now over.

  • It's just jealousy, man. Humans can do anything reasonably well, including master the force with ridiculous efficiency, so the universe likes to try and knock 'em down a peg.

Edited by Flamespeak

It may have something to do with our species name being different in Star Wars then it would be here in reality. Humans is often used as a general term, not a racial identity. Earthlings and Terrans are both based on the planet Earth/Terra. Is Corellian capitalized in the text? That's a somewhat specific breed of human, but with the myriad of human racial differences in Star Wars, it makes sense to have some ambiguousness to the core racial identity covering all the different possible human types.

Just a thought...

You got a good point about the human population being diverse in the Star Wars universe so capitalizing where they are from as a descriptor instead of humans would make sense. Kind of like how capitalize Chihuahua but not dog. Although, one thing that always bothered me about the human element in Star Wars is how very little diversity it offers. Where are the force adept rednecks? Where are the galactic surfer dudes? You mean to tell me in the whole of the universe there isn't some kind of group of jocks dude-bros or blast first ask questions later Texan type?

It seems like it is awfully homogenized in terms of accents and such in regards to humans when they have a whole universe to expand and alter their mannerism and customs. Sure some may have different jobs and moralities and what not, but the accents are pretty much one of two and the dialects are the same.

I think it is to specify that those weird and unknown names are species and in-universe things. That isn`t needed for humans(or droids appearently) as we all know what that means and what they are.

You got a good point about the human population being diverse in the Star Wars universe so capitalizing where they are from as a descriptor instead of humans would make sense. Kind of like how capitalize Chihuahua but not dog. Although, one thing that always bothered me about the human element in Star Wars is how very little diversity it offers. Where are the force adept rednecks? Where are the galactic surfer dudes? You mean to tell me in the whole of the universe there isn't some kind of group of jocks dude-bros or blast first ask questions later Texan type?

It seems like it is awfully homogenized in terms of accents and such in regards to humans when they have a whole universe to expand and alter their mannerism and customs. Sure some may have different jobs and moralities and what not, but the accents are pretty much one of two and the dialects are the same.

lol You have to remember how narrow the focus of the stories we see in this universe is. You're unlikely to see strait up Cowboy and Surfer Dude types in any official materials because the designers would be worried about changing the "feel" of Star Wars too much. That doesn't mean they don't exist. We do see elements of these types of characters in people like Cad Bane (Blasterslinger with a big ole cowboy style hat) and that dreadlock Jedi (Kind of reminded me of a surfer dude) that chased after Nero the Hutt with Kenobi. Both those characters are from The Clone Wars Series. If your looking for hillbilly types, take a close look at some of the characters on Jabba's barge during the Saarlac sequence. Tell me those thugs aren't Tattoonie hillbillies... :)

Owen and Beru Lars were a couple of dirt farmers in a back-sand stretch of Tatooine. Their property was littered with droids in various states of function, and their teenage nephew entertained himself by killing animals and racing souped up speeders. You don't get much more hillbilly than that.

Perhaps its human prejudice at work, they consider that human is just word in our language rather than 'just' the name of the species. You never hear someone being called a Duros being.

Edited by syrath

I actually liked Mass Effect for exactly this reason: the other alien species had their names spelled in lower case, i.e. turian, quarian, etc. It bothers me from a grammatical standpoint, but I don't let it get under my skin for gaming purposes.

It seems odd to me, too, but I'm pretty sure this is LFL house style. They don't capitalize human in the novels, either. My guess is that they think it seems jarring to readers (in the real world), since it's a common English word, one that's not capitalized in everyday use.

That's the Basic spelling used by us core world intellectuals and various literate rim-worlders when using the High Galactic Alphabet. (Just trying to condescendingly explain this discussion to those who only use Aurabesh characters!)

Grammatically, I think some should be capitalized and some shouldn't.

Rodians come from Rodia

twi'leks come Ryloth

wookiees come from Kashyyyk

Duros come from Duro

Hutts come from Nal Hutta

humans come from just about anywhere; near humans too

I think it stems from monoculture that many aliens in fiction have. Duros are all spacefaring explorers, Ithorians are horticulture aficionados, etcetera. We have Correllians as lucky pilots. As the species or culture becomes more defined, they can have the capitalized name.

If you think of Neimodians and Duros as being the same species, but different cultures. A Correllian, Kuati, Naboo are all cultures that are all human.