At least, that's what everyone wants me to believe, I think. If everyone says it, it must be true.

The K-Wing is coming for you.

In fairness, there's probably only about 4 people that want you to think that, they just complain incessantly.

The most OP pilot ever you can have 3 of these things.

iym untoppable!!!!

inb4 Warden powercreeps all over ORS

Wow, wardens are flat out better ORSs. More than a hull upgrade cheaper for one less hull, same stats, and one less crew. It gains all the upgrades and SLAM.

don't forget the small base !

zip right around those obstacles

I don't think many people are saying that. What many people are saying is that Fat Turrets are overpowered (hint: =/= unstoppable) which is pretty clearly true, in that they have huge advantages in speed, don't need to face their target, have significant firepower despite the turret (unlike K-Wings, Y-Wngs, or other PWTs like the ORS or a non-Outrider'd YT-2400)., and have a major advantage in MOV.

Also we can see from Regional results that Fat Turrets are doing ridiculously well compared to other lists. What exactly that implies is up for debate but clearly they are dominating the upper-level metagame to an enormous extent.

That being said, I have no problem with the Decimator. It's very well balanced imo, unlike the Falcon (hello damage mitigation) or Super Dash.

It is always a bad sign when the few people holding a position outside the mainstream have mutually-exclusive takes on what is right and wrong with the mainstream view.

A bad sign for them, anyways.

(hint: =/= unstoppable)

Please, lets not bring logic into this trolliest of threads.

Wow, you are right.

At least, that's what everyone wants me to believe, I think. If everyone says it, it must be true.

Nope...

I love 'em BTW. Real war and so forth.

BTW, I do certainly hope the "powercrept" kwing is evil and unstoppable

It looks so **** fun

At least, that's what everyone wants me to believe, I think. If everyone says it, it must be true.

Nope...

I love 'em BTW. Real war and so forth.

I sincerely hope you understand this thread is very tongue-in-cheek.

At least, that's what everyone wants me to believe, I think. If everyone says it, it must be true.

Nope...

I love 'em BTW. Real war and so forth.

I sincerely hope you understand this thread is very tongue-in-cheek.

And he likes how his cheek tastes!

At least, that's what everyone wants me to believe, I think. If everyone says it, it must be true.

Nope...

I love 'em BTW. Real war and so forth.

I sincerely hope you understand this thread is very tongue-in-cheek.

You mean to tell me that I am supposed to not get upset at what turret haters are posting?!

How dare you!

If everyone says it, it must be true.

No

I'm okay with the K Wing being a power creep ORS.

Literally the only builds I ever fly the ORS in are the 3x ORS, 3x APL, 3x Intel Agent, 3x Navigator troll list, and a Swarm+ with 6 Z-95's and an ORS that I (attempt to) use as a blocker.

I don't think many people are saying that. What many people are saying is that Fat Turrets are overpowered (hint: =/= unstoppable) which is pretty clearly true...

By what standard? Pretty clearly true isn't obvious to everyone, and I %100 disagree that they're overpowered. Powerful? Yes. Overpowered? No. If they can be beaten, and beaten regularly (obviously true) than I'd say that there's some evidence to make that not clearly true.

Jacob

Cmon why did you make this thread. You're better than that.

Just an FYI I'm going to flag this for removal.

I'm okay with the K Wing being a power creep ORS.

Literally the only builds I ever fly the ORS in are the 3x ORS, 3x APL, 3x Intel Agent, 3x Navigator troll list, and a Swarm+ with 6 Z-95's and an ORS that I (attempt to) use as a blocker.

That first list is so evil I'm sure it's all part of the Emperors master plan.

There was once a time when large based ships weren't the poster child for broken game mechanics.

Before wave 4 we had Han shoots first, buzz saw shuttles, and triple bounty hunter lists all strong but not broken. Then wave 4 hit shortly after the corvette and tournament rules changes bringing us margin of victory all at once with anti swarm cards like predator. This brought the era of fat Han. It wasn't the z95s that made fat Han overpowered, it wasn't engine upgrade since it was around long before fat Han became overpowered and even that was more powerful on large ships once. It's not even c3p0 which is completely overpowered on the falcon. It was margin of victory in 60min games. Since that time nothing has changed in what still wins.

Rebel aces released without much change in the meta. Then wave 5 brought us two more fat turrets playing the same game as fat Han. The phantom was nerfed and games were made into 75min rounds which helped a lot. However fat pwt continue to get more durable with every release with more efficient builds. The decimator drops its original phantom partner for a more efficient interceptor with the release of wave 6, Dash picks up corran, and fat Han chugs along with little change since wave 4. Margin of victory is still the worst change that made fat turrets so overpowered since wave 4. We need partial points to help with the disparity that obviously still exists and has been an issue since wave 4. Anyone in denial of this hadn't been paying attention to major jugglers work the last two years.

Cmon why did you make this thread. You're better than that.

Just an FYI I'm going to flag this for removal.

I daresay the OP... lacked wit.

I know, I know. /groan