I wanted to get some clarification on this.

I am playing Rear Admiral Chirneau with Ysanne onboard. My opponent has Palob. At the start of the combat phase, Ysanne gives me an evade token. Can Palob then steal it?

Thanks in advance.

I wanted to get some clarification on this.

I am playing Rear Admiral Chirneau with Ysanne onboard. My opponent has Palob. At the start of the combat phase, Ysanne gives me an evade token. Can Palob then steal it?

Thanks in advance.

Both effects happen simultaneously at the start of the combat phase.

Therefore, the player with initiative determines the order in which they resolve.

I wanted to get some clarification on this.

I am playing Rear Admiral Chirneau with Ysanne onboard. My opponent has Palob. At the start of the combat phase, Ysanne gives me an evade token. Can Palob then steal it?

Thanks in advance.

Both effects happen simultaneously at the start of the combat phase.

Therefore, the player with initiative determines the order in which they resolve.

Unless I'm mistaken, this is incorrect. When things happen at the same time between both players, the player with initiative does it first. So, if Ysand had init, she would generate the token, and Palob could then steal it. But if Palob had init, he would have to steal prior to Ysand's token generating.

If two things happen at the same time between a single player, that player can choose which order to activate them.

I'm with Khyros here.

The side that has initiative has to do its effects first. The player with initiative certainly does NOT get to determine the order of things beyond his control; if he had that power then he should be able to decide who moves and shoots first any time there is a tie in PS.

Khyros has it right. Player with initiative goes first, he doesn't get to choose.

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Or in other words: initiative sucks.

shooting first is nice.....

shooting first is nice.....

It has both advantages and disadvantages. If I'm defending first, I can easily make the decisions to spend my focus token on defense to minimize damage. However, if I'm attacking first, I have to gamble that using it on the attack 1) makes a difference in the overall damage done, and 2) that I won't need it for defense.

Obviously some ships don't really care, a Decimator is going to spend it on its attack regardless of if it's attacking first or second. But other ships such as interceptors would MUCH rather know that they were safe on defense prior to spending it on offense.

The only true advantage that is (almost) always an advantage to shooting first are crits. Pushing a blinded pilot through when you're trading R1 shots is huge. As are weapons malfunctions, munitions failures (depending on the ship) and injured pilot (depending on the pilot). The only time it's not an advantage is when Fel gets a Thrust Control Fire, and then has a focus token to attack with, or when the Outrider (equipped with an HLC of course) gets a munitions failure and ends up having a R1 3 dice shot instead of sitting pretty.

Okay fine, I motion we rename initiative to "not initiative" or "bumble" (you bumble into the other guys better position...) . Joking aside, in the end game, shooting first can be huge if everyone is down to just a few hull. It also changes with the meta, if you are up against Whisper (remember when that was big) then shooting first was clutch. I apologize for dragging this thread off topic.

Also worth noting that even just for abilities, initiative isn't always good or bad. If Palob is trying to steal from Isard, initiative is bad. If he's trying to steal from Kyle, initiative is good.