The Future of SW RPG/Ep7

By sorednax, in Star Wars: Age of Rebellion RPG

with the debut of the 3rd trilogy about to descend upon us, any word on if FFG will be making supplements/source books for races/events set in this time period? Will FFG be keeping their license for the foreseeable future or not? Just curious if there is any news in this regard.

I think if FFG had lost the license, we would have stopped having the supplements released a long while ago (this goes for all of the FFG SW stuff)

But as to what I think will happen pre and post Ep7 will need to wait to see. I'm hoping that there are some supplements, but who knows. And another thing I've noticed from playing the SWLCG is that FFG seem to be keeping to the (now discounted) Extended Universe, with things Like Grand Admiral Thrawn and other aspects. so who knows whats gunna happen

If anything is going to be announced, expect it at gencon, which is at the end of the month I believe, and not before.

And another thing I've noticed from playing the SWLCG is that FFG seem to be keeping to the (now discounted) Extended Universe, with things Like Grand Admiral Thrawn and other aspects. so who knows whats gunna happen

I like the whole "legends" spin. In other words, the EU isn't completely thrown out the window, but these things "may have happened"....and if it conflicts with what's on-screen, the new continuity wins.

After all, at your gaming table, it's your Star Wars, you tell it the way you want. No point not creating supplements with legend characters/events that fans have enjoyed.

FFG did announce a license renewal, so there's plenty more coming.

As for EP7 content... well it'd be kinda insane not to, it' just a matter of what, how, and when.

With FaD the full monty system is now pretty solid, so making EP7 a core book and line is optional. Then again.... it's EP7, so it might be worth it to make an EP7 line to better capitalize on the buzz. Also FFG may just not have the access. Film productions have to be extra careful with the toy line as toy companies are notoriously one of the major leakers of spoiler content.

The reason there wasn't a dancing baby groot toy at the Guardians launch was because they didn't want the toy company to spoil the end. Also as reference, when WotC had the license, thanks to a delay caused by difficulties porting to the playstation, the Force Unleashed minis hit the shelves before the actual video game, and revealed characters and plot points.

So it's entirely possible that FFG doesn't know much more about EP7 then we do. If that's the case then it might be 6 months to a year after release before we can get our hands on EP7 sourcebooks because that's how long it's gonna take to write, edit, playtest, illustrate, print, and deliver.

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I hope FFG learns from WEG's mistake in that we don't want books that just regurgitate movie stats. I own the Dark Empire and Shadows of Empire books and they're worthless...

Give us a full sector, a book of organizations, a sourcebook for the Rimma/Hydian (etc) and interesting places along the way. Something that we can make our own stories from, not something to merely imitate the stories that the movies give us.

I hope FFG learns from WEG's mistake in that we don't want books that just regurgitate movie stats. I own the Dark Empire and Shadows of Empire books and they're worthless...

Give us a full sector, a book of organizations, a sourcebook for the Rimma/Hydian (etc) and interesting places along the way. Something that we can make our own stories from, not something to merely imitate the stories that the movies give us.

thats something id like. is a book on the different hyperlanes. like you say, the main hyperlanes would be the best bet for not very much goin on in them (obviously there's lots going on but maybe not much high-profile) and the less known hyper-lanes where more shady stuff could be going down.

I hope FFG learns from WEG's mistake in that we don't want books that just regurgitate movie stats. I own the Dark Empire and Shadows of Empire books and they're worthless...

Give us a full sector, a book of organizations, a sourcebook for the Rimma/Hydian (etc) and interesting places along the way. Something that we can make our own stories from, not something to merely imitate the stories that the movies give us.

WEG did a few sector sourcebooks, and generated a lot of new content.

The issue you have with new content and sector books is the problem with WEGs sector books... do enough to make it memorable, and you'll probably also end up with something that's a little hard to make feel Star Wars.

obviously, a sourcebook covering any new races/planets/vehicles.....but also, the period of time leading up to Ep7 wich will have a 30+year history.

While I try and remain spoiler free, from what we infer from the trailer, the "Empire" isn't dead, it has been beaten back into one corner of the galaxy, so either the galactic civil war has raged on (making this a perfect extension of the AoR, or a 2nd war has begun (after years of declaring borders) in which case a new line could be warranted.

Let's not forget, Marvel is set to publish a mini series (in cannon) of comics that bridge the gap between RotJ and tFA. More fodder for a sourcebook.

I hope FFG learns from WEG's mistake in that we don't want books that just regurgitate movie stats. I own the Dark Empire and Shadows of Empire books and they're worthless...

Give us a full sector, a book of organizations, a sourcebook for the Rimma/Hydian (etc) and interesting places along the way. Something that we can make our own stories from, not something to merely imitate the stories that the movies give us.

WEG did a few sector sourcebooks, and generated a lot of new content.

The issue you have with new content and sector books is the problem with WEGs sector books... do enough to make it memorable, and you'll probably also end up with something that's a little hard to make feel Star Wars.

The times that WEG went and published full sectors are amazing supplements. Tramp Freighters (Minos), Elrood Sector, Flashpoint and Twin Stars of Kira are great supplements. They're my favorite. It was all the "movie setting" books that drove me nuts. Since we have a new movie coming out, I just hope that a "Thrawn Trilogy" source book is an actual sourcebook and not just the stats of the actors. Give us a full look at goings on in the galaxy during the time period.

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I hope FFG learns from WEG's mistake in that we don't want books that just regurgitate movie stats. I own the Dark Empire and Shadows of Empire books and they're worthless...

Give us a full sector, a book of organizations, a sourcebook for the Rimma/Hydian (etc) and interesting places along the way. Something that we can make our own stories from, not something to merely imitate the stories that the movies give us.

WEG did a few sector sourcebooks, and generated a lot of new content.

The issue you have with new content and sector books is the problem with WEGs sector books... do enough to make it memorable, and you'll probably also end up with something that's a little hard to make feel Star Wars.

The times that WEG went and published full sectors are amazing supplements. Tramp Freighters (Minos), Elrood Sector, Flashpoint and Twin Stars of Kira are great supplements. They're my favorite. It was all the "movie setting" books that drove me nuts. Since we have a new movie coming out, I just hope that a "Thrawn Trilogy" source book is an actual sourcebook and not just the stats of the actors. Give us a full look at goings on in the galaxy during the time period.

Yeah, Elrood wasn't bad.... Tapani kinda was.

And I suspect we'll get a "Episode 6.5" sourcebook once theres enough to know what's going on in that time frame.

I do half expect a few characters like Thrawn may return though probably not quite in their original capacity. It's looking like the story is going to go that the Empire attempts to carry on without Poppa Palpy and while there's some infighting, the whole New Republic thing is a no-go too, so there's room from some familiar faces to pop back up...

but we'll see...

Why they gotta do comics though. I, personally, hate comics and would much rather see a novelization of what happened.

Why they gotta do comics though. I, personally, hate comics and would much rather see a novelization of what happened.

These days comics aren't that bad though. And comics do provide some bonuses a Novel doesn't.

It's stories are shorter, so the story group reviewers can take a closer look in less time, and it's a visual medium, so they'll be looking at the visual design consistency as well as the actual story.

By comparison to a 500 page novel that says force knows what, a 20 page comic book a month is probably better.

Unless they go the Dark Empire design route, in which case be ready for Wookieepedia to be filled with dozens of new ship classes to accommodate the background panels filled with ships that look like Ralph McQuarrie took a dump in a box fan....

Why they gotta do comics though. I, personally, hate comics and would much rather see a novelization of what happened.

These days comics aren't that bad though. And comics do provide some bonuses a Novel doesn't.

It's stories are shorter, so the story group reviewers can take a closer look in less time, and it's a visual medium, so they'll be looking at the visual design consistency as well as the actual story.

By comparison to a 500 page novel that says force knows what, a 20 page comic book a month is probably better.

but when a comic can cost about the same price as the novel... id rather the novel

Keep in mind, FFG keeping the licence is probably dependant on them DOING episode VII content, not just that they'd be crazy not to. If you let someone have the license and they refuse to do new content to tie in to the new movies, I know I'd revoke that license as fast as possible. And let's be honest, if FFG don't have the license, it could go to worse hands, such as back to WotC. Considering how well x-wing alone does for FFG, they want to keep the license for long time.

There is also the fact that later games, at least imperial assault does, has a timeline/continuity for the campaign, making it easy to incorporate newer material.

And let's be honest, if FFG don't have the license, it could go to worse hands, such as back to WotC.

What? Don't like the idea of casting Force Missile into the darkness? I don't know about you but my Lvl 17 Dark Ewok Sith Ranger/Force Mage with his twin +10 Lightsabers (Sparkle and FondantDoom) was awesome.

FondantDoom? Does it have a special bonus vs cakes?

FondantDoom? Does it have a special bonus vs cakes?

Yeah, +12, I wanted to go with Icingdeath but my GM said it was taken.

FFG have announced that they have the rights to release TFA products. Maybe someone around here can link the photo to the big banner they had at a convention a while ago.

If you have never looked, have a gander at the number of posts and replies on the X-Wing forum, it's basically as many as every RPG forum combined! I think the first thing we will see content for is a wave of X-Wing ships.

For the RPG line a Force &Destiny Source book like Nal Hutta, Suns of Fortune is my bet

FondantDoom? Does it have a special bonus vs cakes?

Yeah, +12, I wanted to go with Icingdeath but my GM said it was taken.

He's got jokes! My kind of scum. *insert jabba laugh*

Keep in mind, FFG keeping the licence is probably dependant on them DOING episode VII content, not just that they'd be crazy not to. If you let someone have the license and they refuse to do new content to tie in to the new movies, I know I'd revoke that license as fast as possible. And let's be honest, if FFG don't have the license, it could go to worse hands, such as back to WotC. Considering how well x-wing alone does for FFG, they want to keep the license for long time.

There is also the fact that later games, at least imperial assault does, has a timeline/continuity for the campaign, making it easy to incorporate newer material.

I'm sure we'll be seeing Episode VII items from FFG. I just don't know that it will be in the RPGs for a little while. They will probably appear in the Card game first, then Imperial Assault. Whether we will see this in X-Wing or Armada next will be up for debate (just please, leave it in those forums). Hopefully the supplements we see will offer more worlds, races and absolutely nothing about the main characters. At some point a timeline would be a great supplement... but I am not sure that anyone wants to touch that any time soon.

FondantDoom? Does it have a special bonus vs cakes?

Yeah, +12, I wanted to go with Icingdeath but my GM said it was taken.

He's got jokes! My kind of scum. *insert jabba laugh*

video: Jabba laughing

I do half expect a few characters like Thrawn may return though probably not quite in their original capacity. It's looking like the story is going to go that the Empire attempts to carry on without Poppa Palpy and while there's some infighting, the whole New Republic thing is a no-go too, so there's room from some familiar faces to pop back up...

but we'll see...

Really? That's definitely more to my liking... I tried to read the Thrawn trilogy and couldn't get through the first book. I would much prefer that they take the ideas and do something different. No New Republic wins in under 3 yrs or random alien invasions, no bloody Vong. All of those stories make me cringe. Give me a good drawn out war anyday... that's a good RPG setting. New Republic struggling against the Empire, Empire struggling to survive, and lots of independents and nasty places to get smashed in the middle.

Okay, I'll take the Dark Adepts from Byss in that stew also... we need more lightsabers!

But cloning the Emperor and World Devastators... /yawn. Just because you can't create a better villain is no justification for soap-opera revivals of old villains.

I get it, at the time, it was just a bunch of cool stories that were in comics and continued the legacy of star wars. Excellent. But since it's not canon, I sure hope it's not treated like it.

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I think if FFG had lost the license, we would have stopped having the supplements released a long while ago (this goes for all of the FFG SW stuff)

But as to what I think will happen pre and post Ep7 will need to wait to see. I'm hoping that there are some supplements, but who knows. And another thing I've noticed from playing the SWLCG is that FFG seem to be keeping to the (now discounted) Extended Universe, with things Like Grand Admiral Thrawn and other aspects. so who knows whats gunna happen

They announced it at Celebration Anaheim; I was in the audience for the word from Steve Hovarth himself.

License Renewed; they had just finalized an extension to the contract "for the forseeable future" and that included Episode VII material. No mention of other films, but I'd assume that would be included (and prompty placed under NDA by Lucasfilm until FFG is told they can talk about it).