T-70 X-wing
Rookie Resistance pilot PS 2
Att 3
Agi 2
Hull 3
Shield 2
Focus, TL
Astromech, Torpedo
Cost 20
See not so hard to do.
You've just invalidated every classic x-wing as well as the repaint and made every named pilot overpriced
I guess people's can't tell when you're trolling.
More than likely the t-70 would be 23 or 24 points and include barrel roll. And a different astromech slot to keep mr D2 out of it.
But a lot of fans like the ships in the prequels. Even if they don't like the films themselves.Ffg clearly don't like the prequels, Disney clearly don't like the prequels, the majority of fans don't like the prequels.
And since this is a starship miniatures game, and not a narrative retelling...
The best part of the prequels was the ships, all the new designs and fun aesthetics. The clone wars cartoon also elevated the prequels in my eyes, and added even more fun designs to the pool of ships that were much better than the majority of one off EU offerings such as the Hornet interceptor or 'uglies'.
I'd much rather have uglies than most of the PT craft.
I much prefer ships from the continuation of the original story line. That's why its called the expanded universe.
The PT is just a re-wright (poorly) of the original back story.
Having said that, if FFG release it I will buy it.
The game is too **** good and the minis so **** pretty not to buy it all. Despite my prejudice
As one would expect of an X-Wing built 30 years later.You've just invalidated every classic x-wing as well as the repaint
We already have the X-wing of 20-30 years later, it's called the E-wing
And she's beautiful
T-70 X-wing
Rookie Resistance pilot PS 2
Att 3
Agi 2
Hull 3
Shield 2
Focus, TL
Astromech, Torpedo
Cost 20
See not so hard to do.
You've just invalidated every classic x-wing as well as the repaint and made every named pilot overpriced
To be fair, hasn't the khiraxz done that to an extent? You have a ship that's almost identical to an x-wing, but at a better price point and a better maneuver dial?
Unless you can put Biggs in one and have him escorting some B-wings or Wedge then no.
T-70 X-wing
Rookie Resistance pilot PS 2
Att 3
Agi 2
Hull 3
Shield 2
Focus, TL
Astromech, Torpedo
Cost 20
See not so hard to do.
You've just invalidated every classic x-wing as well as the repaint and made every named pilot overpriced
To be fair, hasn't the khiraxz done that to an extent? You have a ship that's almost identical to an x-wing, but at a better price point and a better maneuver dial?
Since when the hell was the Kihraxz a Rebel fighter?
T-70 X-wing
Rookie Resistance pilot PS 2
Att 3
Agi 2
Hull 3
Shield 2
Focus, TL
Astromech, Torpedo
Cost 20
See not so hard to do.
You've just invalidated every classic x-wing as well as the repaint and made every named pilot overpriced
To be fair, hasn't the khiraxz done that to an extent? You have a ship that's almost identical to an x-wing, but at a better price point and a better maneuver dial?
Since when the hell was the Kihraxz a Rebel fighter?
As one would expect of an X-Wing built 30 years later.You've just invalidated every classic x-wing as well as the repaint
We already have the X-wing of 20-30 years later, it's called the E-wing
And she's beautiful
Haven't you heard, the Special K-axe is so awesomes that people will only wanna play scums now and forever. The game is gonna be called Scummy K-axe too.
T-70 X-wing
Rookie Resistance pilot PS 2
Att 3
Agi 2
Hull 3
Shield 2
Focus, TL
Astromech, Torpedo
Cost 20
See not so hard to do.
You've just invalidated every classic x-wing as well as the repaint and made every named pilot overpriced
To be fair, hasn't the khiraxz done that to an extent? You have a ship that's almost identical to an x-wing, but at a better price point and a better maneuver dial?
Since when the hell was the Kihraxz a Rebel fighter?
OH RIGHT. I FORGOT, SILLY ME.
T-70 X-wing
Rookie Resistance pilot PS 2
Att 3
Agi 2
Hull 3
Shield 2
Focus, TL
Astromech, Torpedo
Cost 20
See not so hard to do.
You've just invalidated every classic x-wing as well as the repaint and made every named pilot overpriced
To be fair, hasn't the khiraxz done that to an extent? You have a ship that's almost identical to an x-wing, but at a better price point and a better maneuver dial?
As already pointed out its a scum ship, it lacks the astromech slot which is a fairly big difference.
I just don't think forcing people to buy new x-wing's to fix their old ones is a good approach.
Ah gotcha. That's why points can be such a wierd nebulous thing, ie, is an illicit slot worth less than an astromech? Does the astro really become that much more worthwhile? Etc
By the Maker, not this again.
Just because technology has recently improved at an unprecedented rate in our world - over the last couple of centuries, especially the last 100 years - in no way means this would certainly be the case in the 'present day' Star Wars universe.
Sometimes I think people just read Star Wars as a metaphor for the Second World War (prequels), Vietnam (OT), and presumably the middle-eastern conflicts for the new sequels.
A better reference point in terms of how Star Wars technology develops between the movies, would be the European dark ages: the high-tech Roman Republic descended into Imperialism, then collapsed into a religious remnant that persecuted technological or philosophical innovation.
Just remember it's "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away".
Apologies for the rant, but sometimes I think people get fixated on a single interpretation, and don't realise that Star Wars is open to so many other... Points of view. This is why it's awesome.
Illicit is worth more than astro or salvaged because so far there's no unique illicits, you can deck out your whole squad if you have the cards and the ships (sorry y and generic viper). That is, if illicit upgrades didn't self destruct or try to kill the ship the are on, which covers the price pretty well, making it a wash.
American Graffiti happens a long time ago in a galaxy far far away too, iirc.
Edited by GrimmyVBy the Maker, not this again.
Just because technology has recently improved at an unprecedented rate in our world - over the last couple of centuries, especially the last 100 years - in no way means this would certainly be the case in the 'present day' Star Wars universe.
Sorry for the tangent, but...
The sum of human knowledge has been roughly doubling every 20 years for the past 3,000 years.
Compound interest is freaking _magical_ in what it can do.
By the Maker, not this again.
Just because technology has recently improved at an unprecedented rate in our world - over the last couple of centuries, especially the last 100 years - in no way means this would certainly be the case in the 'present day' Star Wars universe.
Sorry for the tangent, but...
The sum of human knowledge has been roughly doubling every 20 years for the past 3,000 years.
Compound interest is freaking _magical_ in what it can do.
Where is the source for this? And is that knowledge, or merely recorded information (you know, history, literature and technical works).
The sum of human knowledge has been roughly doubling every 20 years for the past 3,000 years.
Compound interest is freaking _magical_ in what it can do.
Yes, but Star Wars takes place A Long Time Ago.
By the Maker, not this again.
Just because technology has recently improved at an unprecedented rate in our world - over the last couple of centuries, especially the last 100 years - in no way means this would certainly be the case in the 'present day' Star Wars universe.
Sorry for the tangent, but...
The sum of human knowledge has been roughly doubling every 20 years for the past 3,000 years.
Compound interest is freaking _magical_ in what it can do.
Where is the source for this? And is that knowledge, or merely recorded information (you know, history, literature and technical works).
"Where's the source for this?"
...You're asking that on a public forum on The Internet.
The sum of human knowledge has NOT been doubling every 20 years for the past 3000. It has been doubling every 1.8 years in our life time (somewhere in the 1990's was when I heard this).
There was this period called the dark ages that lasted for centuries where the only significant technological discovery was the stirrup, and not much else.
The sum of human knowledge has NOT been doubling every 20 years for the past 3000. It has been doubling every 1.8 years in our life time (somewhere in the 1990's was when I heard this).
There was this period called the dark ages that lasted for centuries where the only significant technological discovery was the stirrup, and not much else.
There have been several dark ages in human history. None of them have ever encompassed more than 1 or 2 or 3 societies at a time. For instance: while Europe was experiencing it's feudal period, the Roman Empire was doing quite well- being lead from it's capital is Constantinople. And a bit later while Europe was _still_ trying to sort itself out, the Arabs were busy inventing Algebra. China's "dark ages" happened while Europe was entering the "rebirth"- a period of explosive growth. Etc.
I don't want to be argumentative, and I hope my tone doesn't come off badly. I do think that human history ought to be understood as more than "Europe + some other stuff", which is the way it is far too often taught in American high schools.
By the Maker, not this again.
Just because technology has recently improved at an unprecedented rate in our world - over the last couple of centuries, especially the last 100 years - in no way means this would certainly be the case in the 'present day' Star Wars universe.
Sorry for the tangent, but...
The sum of human knowledge has been roughly doubling every 20 years for the past 3,000 years.
Compound interest is freaking _magical_ in what it can do.
Where is the source for this? And is that knowledge, or merely recorded information (you know, history, literature and technical works).
"Where's the source for this?"
...You're asking that on a public forum on The Internet.
Well when someone claims human knowledge has increased 2^150 (approx 1.4 x 10^45) times in the past three millennia then I wanna know who or what is the source of that misinformation. Of course asking anything around here and expecting anything but ignorant opinion passed off as fact is the height of folly.
It's a good thing all this relates to the actual miniatures game we play, otherwise I would have thought this was the off topic forum.
By the Maker, not this again.
Just because technology has recently improved at an unprecedented rate in our world - over the last couple of centuries, especially the last 100 years - in no way means this would certainly be the case in the 'present day' Star Wars universe.
Sorry for the tangent, but...
The sum of human knowledge has been roughly doubling every 20 years for the past 3,000 years.
Compound interest is freaking _magical_ in what it can do.
Where is the source for this? And is that knowledge, or merely recorded information (you know, history, literature and technical works).
"Where's the source for this?"
...You're asking that on a public forum on The Internet.
Well when someone claims human knowledge has increased 2^150 (approx 1.4 x 10^45) times in the past three millennia then I wanna know who or what is the source of that misinformation. Of course asking anything around here and expecting anything but ignorant opinion passed off as fact is the height of folly.
It's a good thing all this relates to the actual miniatures game we play, otherwise I would have thought this was the off topic forum.
What I'm saying is that you're asking such a thing in a pretty **** advanced manner of communication.
T-70 X-wing
Rookie Resistance pilot PS 2
Att 3
Agi 2
Hull 3
Shield 2
Focus, TL
Astromech, Torpedo
Cost 20
See not so hard to do.
You've just invalidated every classic x-wing as well as the repaint and made every named pilot overpriced
To be fair, hasn't the khiraxz done that to an extent? You have a ship that's almost identical to an x-wing, but at a better price point and a better maneuver dial?
Unless you can put Biggs in one and have him escorting some B-wings or Wedge then no.
Biggs in a YT=table flip
The T70 is clearly going to be a non unique title card to rebalance every existing Xwing, just as you never see an Intercepter anymore that isnt a Royal Guard tie.
We'll ignore the continuity issues of putting Biggs in a T70.
The T70 is clearly going to be a non unique title card to rebalance every existing Xwing, just as you never see an Intercepter anymore that isnt a Royal Guard tie.
We'll ignore the continuity issues of putting Biggs in a T70.
Surely not - I'd be very surprised if they did not make a distinct new model for the T70...
Not that there wouldn't be an opportunity for other upgrades/fixes to be included that would filter down to T-65's...
The T70 is clearly going to be a non unique title card to rebalance every existing Xwing, just as you never see an Intercepter anymore that isnt a Royal Guard tie.
Yeah, I don't see it.
The Royal Guard TIE is a niche piece of EU lore. The T70 is going to have a central role in what is possibly going to be the biggest movie of the year.
It's probably going to get it's own model. Even if it is mostly the same.
I agree, it's going to have a new model. But it's still going to be an Xwing. And it's going to come with multiple copies of whatever Xwing fix FFG's decided on.
Perhaps the new pilots will be assigned to T70 Xwings, like Vader is in an X1 Advanced.
Edited by RakaydosI strongly anticipate a new Force Awakens core set, containing the new X-Wing and new basic TIEs. Rebellion and Resistance rolled into one faction, Empire and First Order ditto. Perfect opportunity to include a revised rulebook incorporating the erratas and FAQs.
Let's welcome the next generation of Star Wars fans into this amazing game, instead of asking them to buy ships from when their parents were kids!
Then look forward to expansions for all three factions, featuring the new ships and characters, including the black-and-red Special Forces TIE from Comic Con.