Whoawhoawhoa- Clone Wars Season 5 episode 6

By Corellian Corvette, in Star Wars: Armada

I am watching season 5 on my phone, and am only a few minutes into the episode but:

WHAT is that ship!?!?!

I can't make out much on my tiny phone screen, but it looks correllian.

I have never seen it before, and don't know the name, but it seems like a smaller CR class.

I neeeeeed to know more about this!

Oh yeah, light saber building? I guess that's cool too... But can we get more screen time of the spaceship? :P

Oh-oh-oh snap, that looks like a cross between a tau Manta/Tigershark and a hotrod.

I love it

Fore section looks like the Defender from ToR

Fore section looks like the Defender from ToR

I believe the description of the base "Jedi training vessel" says it was based on the defender.

Fore section looks like the Defender from ToR

I believe the description of the base "Jedi training vessel" says it was based on the defender.

Description? Who reads those things?

:P

So I finished the clone wars episodes, ad it's too bad the ship splashed down hard and was destroyed.

http://giant.gfycat.com/ExemplaryBeneficialAmericanlobster.webm

(lolololol)

Sure the stuff on board can be salvaged, so it's not a total loss

Also seeing a Firespray in that episode was AWESOME! Wow! (oh yeah spoilers, oops)

Love the rapidfire blaster sound.

Anyways, some critiques of the ship:

Those CR90 flowerpots on the side (the ones that mount the single turbolasers on the CR90) should of been weapons. Sadly, I think they were just lifeboats, or decoration.

I liked the "Old bomber" feel of the cockpit, something from world war 2/cold war. Some pictures seem to make it look fat, others seem to make it thin. I think some photos are distorted.

Like this image, and this one:

640px-JediCruiser-TG.png

/\ Thin

640px-Crucible-TCWs5BR1.png

/\ Short & Fat

Also, seeing the wiki images made me realize that those are actually not CR90 flowerpots on the sides. Hmphf. It should get some then!

The 5 engine design is pretty cool, as well as the old school nozzles.

Edited by Corellian Corvette

It makes sense to me that the ship wouldn't have weapons - as it's a flying school. And arming it would basically be giving the Jedi their own military capital ships.

That being said , in the Star Wars universe I'm familiar with - filled with pirates and rebels and criminals of all colors and stripes - I would never dream of spending much time aboard an unarmed ship.

Well if the Jedi can have their own fighters why would light capital ships be a surprise? I hate the arc with a passion, especially the events leading to

the ship being captured

but the ship itself was a nice design.

Edited by RogueCorona

Fighters - and especially interceptors - are more defensive in nature: Their purpose is to destroy offensive craft, such as bombers.

Capital-type warships are much more offensive in nature: An interceptor in orbit might prove annoying, but is unlikely to cause much harm - while even a corvette could easily cause severe damage in short order to small cities.

The Jedi were also the visible muscle of the Republic's central government before the Republic military was re-established so why would them having warships shock anyone?

After the establishment of the Grand Army of the Republic? Sure. But not before. Otherwise, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon would have shown up at the beginning of The Phantom Menace with a fleet of Jedi warships to negotiate with the Trade Federation, rather than showing up in an unarmed corvette (cruiser, whatever).

The Crucible is probably at least a century old. It is certainly more than two or three years old (the period over which the Clone Wars were fought).

Edited by Vigil

It was states to be a thousand plus years old.

So a flying relic.

Makes it around the time of the Army of Light against the Brotherhood of Darkness then.

Makes sense that it would be armed, that being the case. Certainly Old Republic Jedi flew armed ships as a matter of course, and if it was used during active war, it seems likely.

After the establishment of the Grand Army of the Republic? Sure. But not before. Otherwise, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon would have shown up at the beginning of The Phantom Menace with a fleet of Jedi warships to negotiate with the Trade Federation, rather than showing up in an unarmed corvette (cruiser, whatever).

The Crucible is probably at least a century old. It is certainly more than two or three years old (the period over which the Clone Wars were fought).

Remember their mission in The Phantom Menace was launched secretly and sending an entire fleet would have ruined the secrecy real fast.

Makes it around the time of the Army of Light against the Brotherhood of Darkness then.

Makes sense that it would be armed, that being the case. Certainly Old Republic Jedi flew armed ships as a matter of course, and if it was used during active war, it seems likely.

A-That's Legends and therefore no longer canon.

B-That still gives them a thousand years of peace in which to decide to disarm the Crucible.

After the establishment of the Grand Army of the Republic? Sure. But not before. Otherwise, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon would have shown up at the beginning of The Phantom Menace with a fleet of Jedi warships to negotiate with the Trade Federation, rather than showing up in an unarmed corvette (cruiser, whatever).

The Crucible is probably at least a century old. It is certainly more than two or three years old (the period over which the Clone Wars were fought).

Remember their mission in The Phantom Menace was launched secretly and sending an entire fleet would have ruined the secrecy real fast.

Fleets move in secrecy all the time. If the Jedi had such a fleet, there would be little need for a Clone Army - at least not on the time line that was shown in Attack of the Clones . Which also, conveniently, showed hundreds of Jedi managing to land on Geonosis and infiltrate the Petranaki arena without being detected - ample evidence of the Jedi's ability to operate secretly in large numbers.

(Well, not that large. 200 Jedi would only be sufficient to man a corvette or two. But if the Jedi were officers and relied on non-Jedi personnel for enlisted ranks, they might be able to wiggle a couple of cruisers in. However, had the Jedi possessed such a fleet in any case, it would have meant that they likely would have relied on Jedi-commissioned admiralty officers to command the star destroyers of the Republic Navy rather than on men and women commissioned by the Senate. And even then, it would imply that the Jedi would have a greater level of experience in operating as a para-military organization than we get from the prequels and The Clone Wars .)

Well the Judical forces have been canonized. The way Legends explained the Judical forces was a small rapid reaction fleet for anti pirate operations and breaking up disputes with the Jedi Order members offically officers of the Judicals. The idea was that in a serious emergency the Jedicals could call upon the local defense forces to aid them but the quality and quantity of local forces, where they existed at all, varied so much that the Judicals wouldn't have enough backup for a major crisis, and politics sometimes prevented the Judicals from being deployed to areas that needed their help. A small fleet like that would have probably been too dispersed in the months leading to Genonosis to concentrate in the time frame they needed to launch the strike force in as well.

I'm not sure that they needed to drive the separatists from Geonosis. Rescuing a Jedi Knight, his Padawan, and the Naboo Senator under their protection? Makes sense. But the OP only needed to be a smash-and-grab.

Makes it around the time of the Army of Light against the Brotherhood of Darkness then.

Makes sense that it would be armed, that being the case. Certainly Old Republic Jedi flew armed ships as a matter of course, and if it was used during active war, it seems likely.

A-That's Legends and therefore no longer canon.

B-That still gives them a thousand years of peace in which to decide to disarm the Crucible.

The majority of the stuff in FFGs Star Wars games is Legends. They dont really mind.