A Theory on Force Ghosts

By Rogue Dakotan, in X-Wing Off-Topic

Heyo. I'll get a new article about X-Wing up eventually (I have my regionals report waiting in the wings) but for now here's something about Force Ghosts to get you thinking.

ARTICLE HERE

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Here, I fixed the picture for you ;)

Heyo. I'll get a new article about X-Wing up eventually (I have my regionals report waiting in the wings) but for now here's something about Force Ghosts to get you thinking.

ARTICLE HERE

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I have to disagree eith the artical.

Sure you do... :rolleyes:

I think its a pretty good theory and actually makes a lot of sense.

I have always thought about very similar to this. I see it as 2 worlds, the living universe, and the 'force' universe. Both universes are separate, but intersect at focal points that are 'strong in the force' such as strong force users and strong locations. For a user to user connection, they have to be somewhat attuned to one another like Luke was to Ben. Thus a force ghost's view of the living universe is only through said focal points.

There is also a long history of force relics as well. Perhaps these relics also become focal points.

I have to disagree eith the artical.

Yet you provide no reason why you disagree or even what parts of it you disagree with. Although given your posting history, if you did give details I doubt it would make much more sense then what you did post did...

I think the theory makes as much sense as anything else that has been said.

The ghost was really Old Man Webb. He pulled it off with phosphorous powder, a movie projector, and mirrors.

Edited by TopHatGorilla

Force ghosts are meh, but have you jodocast guys watched droid tales? Someone needs to talk about what happened there at the end!

Sure you do... :rolleyes:

I think its a pretty good theory and actually makes a lot of sense.

For the most part it goes agianst established lore, disregards established lore, or adds points about events that didnt happen.

Ben didnt have trouble forming himself on Hoth. During the trench run in Ep 4 it would have looked strange, stupid too have a floatingg uy following Luke arround outside the X-Wing or sitting on Lukes lap. Inuniverse during Ep 4 it makes since ee dont see Benb ecause he haddent mastereed the ability too will his body back into the physical world. We see in other stories aftert his point in time Ben reforming himself on other planets or possesing people. We also see force ghosts and darkside spirits able to reform themseleves and interact with people and things and not every planet they were on was a force nexus point.

Force Ghosts and Darkside Spirits are generally much more powerful than any force user that hass hed their mortal coil, granted they will be more powerful at force nexus points, this doesnt mean they cant go too places that dont have a strong force connection. The reason you hardly ever saw Bens master was because he didnt learn the ability correctly like Yoda, Ben, and others. He was however still powerful, in Yodas chambers he lifted lots of objects up into the air and smashed them down.

The reason you probably dont see Ben nor other Ghost Jedi spying on or trying too kill Vader or Sidious is because how powerful they are, they are the most powerful Sith ever. With the force "force ghost" can be banashed. Dark Side Spirits can only be killed with the force. There two types of Sith abilities that might actully kill Force Ghosts / Lightside Spirits. Force Storm used by Sidious, which destroys the space-time continuum, and Sith abilities that steal the life force / souls of thier targets. Palpatine had learned and created hundreds of force abilities and had the ability to create them on a whem. He had Mastered Force Lightning and even gave it attributes not normal with force lightning, the ability too suck the life and very likely the soul of its victoms. He used this aability on countless slaves on the true Imperial thrown world of Byss. Doing so made him more powerful. If Sidious or Vader got the chance to absorb a force ghost, their power would rise too insane levels. Luke may not have had a chance too defeat Vader or Sidious if this had happend. There for to prevent this from happening Ben wouldnt go too were Vader or Sidious was too spy on them or attack them, if he failed he could be absorbed causing Luke too lose an information asset and gain way more dangerous enemies.

When ever Ben did fight Vader as a Ghost he would posses Luke, if Vader had abilities like Sidious, he had alot of them, he couldnt risk being absorbed by Vader ether. By possesing Luke he lessens the chance Vader will detect him and absorb him, while also being able taking action against Vader.

Force ghosts are meh, but have you jodocast guys watched droid tales? Someone needs to talk about what happened there at the end!

With the mysterious hooded figure? I'm not sure if they other two have watched it but I thought it was great! We haven't had a chance to talk about it yet.

...if you did give details I doubt it would make much more sense then what you did post did.

Welp, you won that bet.

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I'm probably going to regret asking this, but is there any evidence anywhere that Sith (or darksiders more generally) could eat Force ghosts?

Force ghosts are meh, but have you jodocast guys watched droid tales? Someone needs to talk about what happened there at the end!

With the mysterious hooded figure? I'm not sure if they other two have watched it but I thought it was great! We haven't had a chance to talk about it yet.

Is Droid Tales official canon or can they just act like that didn't happen.

Force Storm used by Sidious, which destroys the space-time continuum, and Sith abilities that steal the life force / souls of thier targets. Palpatine had learned and created hundreds of force abilities and had the ability to create them on a whem.

And this... This is why I'm so glad that the EU got blown up.

Because none of that is actually canon any longer. Sidious did not survive the trip down the shaft on the DSII. So none of the things listed here actually happened. Things that the SW Universe is much better off without.

Sidius lives!

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Oh wait. That's Skeletor...

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How I react to everyone of BKL's posts:

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...if you did give details I doubt it would make much more sense then what you did post did.

Welp, you won that bet.

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I'm probably going to regret asking this, but is there any evidence anywhere that Sith (or darksiders more generally) could eat Force ghosts?

Nice too see "They" are still here lol -_- We see darksiders use the force to absorb souls, Sidious did it on Byss, some stupid Sith Lords took souls or life force in KOTOR2. We know the Sith in that game was able too kill the force itself because one became a darkside nexus. Sidious was the most powerful Darkside Nexus too exist. It was stated in Dark Empire source material he learned every force power created. I point that out because Darkside Witches also could absorb souls using the force, they should them doing it in the Clone Wars show.

Even if they couldnt absorb force ghosts, Sidious for sure could kill a persons soul, but its not clear how. Ether way, being a Ghost would you ever want to fight, deal with, someone can already absorb souls? Pretty freaking risky chance too take.

How I react to everyone of BKL's posts:

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Thats cute...

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Meh, this theory is not as solid as it first appears. For one, why doesn't Ben just appear to both Yoda and Luke in the hut on Dagobah instead of just using his ghost voice? Maybe because it would have been silly for Ghost Ben to appear hunched down inside the Yoda-sized hut.

Ben and Yoda make remarks that they have watched Luke from afar and can see a lot of things concerning him, and that when Luke is confronting Vader Ben could not interfer due to, something, probably the disturbance created by the epic duel or Vade's dark side control clouding the force. At no time is it ever implied that a 'force ghost' needs anything special to appear in any place other than maybe the presence of a force sensitive person.

This article also does nothing to answer wtf was going on in the dark side cave on dagobah...was that 'Vader' a ghost of a previous Sith or just the dark side energies taking the form of Luke's worse fears? Dunno, and the EU never adequately explained it as far as I'm concerned.

Meh, this theory is not as solid as it first appears. For one, why doesn't Ben just appear to both Yoda and Luke in the hut on Dagobah instead of just using his ghost voice? Maybe because it would have been silly for Ghost Ben to appear hunched down inside the Yoda-sized hut.

Ben and Yoda make remarks that they have watched Luke from afar and can see a lot of things concerning him, and that when Luke is confronting Vader Ben could not interfer due to, something, probably the disturbance created by the epic duel or Vade's dark side control clouding the force. At no time is it ever implied that a 'force ghost' needs anything special to appear in any place other than maybe the presence of a force sensitive person.

This article also does nothing to answer wtf was going on in the dark side cave on dagobah...was that 'Vader' a ghost of a previous Sith or just the dark side energies taking the form of Luke's worse fears? Dunno, and the EU never adequately explained it as far as I'm concerned.

I also get the feeling that Yoda and Ben are not concerned with the Civil War persay, or at least as concerned as they are with Sidious since he is causing a disharmony in the force by being alive and doing the things he's doing with the force. Its. One thing to have a Civil War going, and it is sad lots of people are dying, but when the afterlife and the ballance of the force, which effects the universe, is in danger of being permanitly damaged or destroyed that takes priority over. Other isues.