I'm sorry, but I have to contradict most of the opinions posted considering a possible expansion of 'Chaos'. Don't get me wrong, I like the game very much indeed, but it has one little flaw that can't be ignored. You can play it only with 3 or 4 participants. 3 or 4. Not more, not less. Only 3 or 4. Well, let's be honest about it - you obviously cannot play this game as a pair and that is acceptable. Although this might be nice to try out you can get over missing that option. But not being able to play in a group of more than four people - why? Everytime my friends and I played the game at least one of us had to skip. And since 'Chaos' is one of the best board games ever, that's just annoying is what it is.

I vote for more gods!

So, let me know what you think. Is there anyone out there with the same opinion?

reyalp_eman said:

Stop screwing with my fluff.

There are FOUR Chaos Gods. There could be an option for more Players, but not Gods, e.g - Gork and Mork, Sigmarite Church etc etc

Even then, adding the other factions of the WHF mythos would change the entire gameplay. I don't expect the Elector Counts to go around corrupting their own counties and countries. Nor do I expect any force employed by Gork or Mork to hang around long enough to do anything other than a bit of pillaging.

Limiting the game to 4 does, indeed, suck but I have to agree with Trothael. The fluff is 4 gods and that's gonna be hard for many people to over look, not to mention who/what in the WHF world can really compete with a chaos god?

-Goresmack

Goresmack said:

Looking through one of the old Black Industries publications of WFRP, there are several references to lesser Chaos Gods, but they're really just facets of the 4 big 'uns, and don't get their own Daemons or anything.

And I also guess there's Malal

Well, you guys know your stuff, so I guess (besides Malal) there cannot really be an expansion with more gods. But how else can a group of more than 4 people play Chaos? Perhaps it would be suficcient to add just Malal and the option of one other player, who fights against everyone else (with heros, and he wins when nobody else wins before the 8 old world-cards are dealt). I kind of like this idea.

Apart from that, a 5-6-player expansion would have to have an addition to the land, doesn't it? Otherwise, it might get a bit crowded in there.

Anyways, I'm just imagining here. I hope that the possibility of an expansion to the game is still under discussion.

GW currently doesn't have the rights to Malal so I doubt he'll feature. The possibility for someone playing Sigmar or the heroes of the old world might add another player to the game.

You might also get a +4 player expansion that made it teams of 2, which would be a 6 or 8 player expansion (although you could get other numbers by having some people play both sides of the co-op).

Gork and Mork and other gods are a nice idea but may or may not work thematically. Although the Skaven might make a playable race/faction. They do get a Vermin Lord Greater Demon and they would also work quite nicely as a foil race that didn't play as a god but won if the board won. I like the idea of an expansion that adds some races that can't fight the chaos gods directly but can "play for time" and win out with the help of the old world.

They might do something like a standalone expansion that uses a different part of the world and replaces the dials with new dials (i.e. a new board) but uses the same cards and so fourth.

I'm not sure whether I want extra players or not though, the game works well with 4 and I have other games for when we have more, however I do love this game so I want any expansions going to be honest.

There is another Chaos Faction: Chaos Undivided. This is for all chaos who do not follow one of the 4 gods and is very distinct in itself. It has less restrictions as it can field demons from the other chaos powers. There is no specific Greater Demon for the Undivided, however they can field any of the other 4 Greater Demons (which could be interesting!) They could also have a Demon Prince instead, (of which there are many) many of whom can be more powerful than Greater Demons themselves. This faction could involve one of my favourite Demon Princes Be'Lakor, The Dark Master (who is atleast as powerful as any of the Geater Demons if not more so, he costs more than the other 4 in game terms). Be'Lakor doesn't follow any of the Chaos gods (he is a minor one himself!) he is a Demon of Darkness and Shadows and could be an interesting choice for a faction's abilities.

Don't know if this helps anyone, as this could be an option for a 5th faction, or perhaps even more as you could have more than one Undivided faction with their own rules. One based on shadows and darkness, led by Be'Lakor and a 6th faction that incorporates all 4 chaos gods and can have any Greater Demon, but only one in play at any time, and must have atleast one or more minor demons of the same faction in play before they can be played.

Just some of my thoughts, probably complete rubbish as I haven't thought for long over it.

Actually I'd like to see options for 2 0r 1 players,which is probably the best most gamers can manage.

OD

Old Dwarf said:

I'd agree. I am really hop[ing for a solid, well-balanced 2-player variant to come out.

I can't imagine this game going to 6 players. It makes some sense to beef up the Old World and make that a 5th player. But we never have an odd-number of players. So it really has little appeal to me.

I agree with coltsfan also. Lets get an official 2 player variant first.

BTW Brian just wondering if you want a Super Bowl with the Manning bros facing each other? At the rate they are going looks like a good possibility. Sorry to get off subject I was just curious. Just one answer will do. Don't wanna hijack the thread.

I would love a rules version to come out for a 2 player, I would even more like to see a one player version, as I don't get much chance to play with others and so really like games with a one player varient. (these obviously aren't as fun but keep me going none-the-less)

darkkami said:

Actually, I already had my dream matchup of the Bears vs. Colts with Colts on top. My second choice would be Colts vs. Giants and not just because of Eli. Having a Manning Bowl is just an added bonus. But I don't think the Saints are going to let that happen. So my 3rd choice for a matchup would be Colts vs. Brees. If the Colts can hold up their end fo the bargain, it is going to be a good football year for me no matter what.

+1 for a solo / 2 player variant ( Perhaps using an expansion featuring cards that dictate the play of a 2nd / 3rd "game controlled" faction.)

The Warhammer world has more than the 4 Gods of Chaos. These are just the 4 most known in the game setting. There are many more though. Most are lesser gods. Not sure how the could be used in a possible future expansion though.

ruppt said:

None of which have daemons of their own, nor any real force in the Old World. The big 4 are stomping around in corporeal form up in the Northern Wastes, have armies of followers and daemons.

Well, there is already another faction on the board that is even already able to win the game:

The Old World itself.

So there may very well be some way to expand the game by turning the Old World Powers into another playable faction trying to oppose the gods long enough to make the game run out.

I wouldn't have a lot of ideas how to do that without changing too much of the game itself, but it makes the most sense from a background perspective IMO.

Cheers,

Chris

Rapier said:

GW has not the rights for a ....certain god in their universe? Would you like to explain this? I am baffled. tanks.

For the discussion I think that another faction with different ways to win would be nice. Maybe the "Good Pantheon"? (sigmar, verena, ulric etc.)

superklaus said:

Malal was created for a comic by a non-official GW author some time ago. He caught on and became pretty popular, but then legal issues arose and he got retconned and GW were forced to forget about him.